HANNIBAL on NBC seems amazing and therefore deserves it's own thread!

I think what's most interesting about this season thus far is about how it's abandoned realism more than ever before - which is saying something! - in favor of pure dream imagery and logic (or illogic, in certain instances) and psychological/emotional insight

idk i think for example the human totem on the beach at the end of season one, that episode -- i think what's going on there is not 'realism' -- when the show was doing the beats of the crime procedural it put it to more interesting use in deforming realism than anything this season has managed so far -- i keep thinking of david fincher

Cambridge Poet is also ... like, there's more to it than 'cambridge doesn't have TAs'--he's like a 50-year out-of-date stereotype of what a poet via cambridge would be like. "feel like there would be a lot more consistent criticism of them in reviews/online if they were regularly incorrect or off the mark" -- that would assume a p literate / 'cultured' commentariat for tv that i just don't know if we have

haha that is a fair point, a decent amount of critics might not bother to check in the first place.

also see what you're saying re: stuff like the totem killing being more subversive by introducing surreal anarchic imagery into what was at the time at least somewhat close to a classic procedural, as a disruptor. I do really enjoy the nightmarish aspects being the blatant central subject of this season, though.

on a completely unrelated note - anyone getting bertolucci vibes from the visual style? specifically the conformist.

Hannibal himself has a certain superfluous cultural knowledge. In that it isn't rooted in anything. It's sort of a pan-continental idea of culture, where you would never guess exactly where he comes from originally. There is no sense of history, it's almost mythological with him. Every painting, every poem, every aria, is just a band-aid over a chasm of evil.

wd pay a low three-figure number to see mads and gillian do noel coward

bertolucci schmertolucci, the vibe i am getting watching will graham walk around this abandoned estate is 'mid-90s cd-rom adventure game'

hannibal's position re cultural capital is interesting--in silence (the book) he eats the liver with 'some fava beans and a big amarone', which was is entirely different from 'a nice chianti' -- the latter is something my mum would say. i have v little idea what a big amarone is.

i recall making the claim to "j." of this parish, sometime around the first season, that hannibal's ultimate villain would have to be someone with a food truck that sold (this dates the conversation rather) ramen burgers, or cronuts

haha i enjoy this more when i don't wait for the thread to spoil it, mads is straight up fire this episode

i haven't caught up on any new episodes yet so i am deeply perplexed why no one is talking about gillian anderson

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never change bro

bertolucci schmertolucci, the vibe i am getting watching will graham walk around this abandoned estate is 'mid-90s cd-rom adventure game'

lmao totally, esp with the birds flying in and out of the screen

I also haven't loved this show the way I loved it in season 1 (though 'love' is the wrong word for something that I kinda feel is bad for me), but I do apreciate that it evolved into something different. I can just rewatch season1 if I want more of it. Season 1 had this big sense of sadness and sorrow at it's core, which in season 2 morphed into anger and hate, and then further morphed into insanity halfway through. And it's still insane. But hopefully, it will develop further as the show goes on.

I'm only half way through the new ep but

- i now have to watch this show on sat morning! when I watched it at night the cryptic dreaminess made me sleepy & i ended up missing half the show from napping lol

- this season is way more cryptic & dreamy than ever & i def miss the procedural aspect that at least anchored the show in a kind of 'reality,' even if it was corny & forced at times

- love how they blended some Monster of Florence mythology into last week's ep, and are slowly swirling together touches from the Hannibal & Hannibal Rising novels as well. It's very loose and hazy but I dig it

- 90's cd rom game otm, loool

People bitching about geographic and real life cultural (as opposed to arts and gastronomy cultural) inaccuracy this season should probably never go to Baltimore.

y? do people not like pedantry there?

Well that too, but I meant that they may simply find it surprisingly unlike Ottawa.

Lol. The geography of season one was so weird. Hannibal can basically magically transport himself everywhere if he needs to murder someone.

maybe the had the motorcycle all along

it's a fair cop, i basically read those captions giving locations as AMERICA; MORE AMERICA; STILL AMERICA, so

Even in season 1, which indeed was more grounded and realistic than what has later happened, the show didn't strictly speaking make sense. It was always impressionistic. The only problem was when people tried to treat it as an actual whodunnit, and based their theories on things such as whether or not a certain solution was actually physically possible. Possibility never really had any bearing on what happened with the plot.

Man, I love this show. In a weird way, but it's just so so swaggeringly good.

but they are so very different goddamn it thomp xp

and not different like "these people live 50 kilometers away from the prior location, they have a distinct culture and accent" way. there are thousands of kilometers crossed in the North American Hannibal episodes!

I never caught where Abbigail's psychiatric hospital was. The east coast, near the rest of the case, or the midwest, near where she was taken in? The former makes no sense in that she wouldn't be transferred so far away from home and the main characters traveling there on the regular would be odd. The latter makes no sense due to the parts where others seemed to drop in. About 1k km between.

i still don't understand why everyone wanted to figure out where hannibal was in season one instead of where will was but w/e

xxp excuse me?!?! we don't cross fuckin kilometers here bub

I was translating for thomp because I am PRACTICALLY IN MINNESOTA

they use kilometres over there whole other thing even

the english measure road distances in imperial units fyi

i mean basically i assumed they thought there was little point in showing hannibal eating airline food

one wonders in fact if the 'a little protein scramble ... to start the day' sequence came from them plotting out something that involved them being in transit for a long time

I can imagine Hannibal has killed the executive chef of an airline at some point

cancelled http://deadline.com/2015/06/hannibal-cancelled-3-seasons-nbc-1201451774/

you dang quibblers about ur geography did this i blame you

this sucks

nooooooo

maybe they cd get their asses over to netflix, gimme a few more seasons

Netflix?

kidding, of course, shitty ratings did this

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netflix/hulu def possible, fuller seems to have said something oblique to that effect

but netflix is very much in a too many cooks situation with all its shows, i feel like

no-one cookin like hannibal tho

The first two seasons are on amazon, so amazon seems like the logical resurecter. I don't think I can handle if this ends without Hannibal being caught. I need to know he's not still out there, dammit!

he's in your kitchen right now man

I seriously just got a bit freaked out...

this show needs to continue so i can keep reading the food designer's awesome blog!!

I should probably stop watching Bryan Fuller shows. They always end up being cancelled before their time.

tbf this went the longest, and has the best chance at a 2nd life. im surprised dead like me & pushing daisies ever got to two, frankly. sometimes i still miss daisies.

Dead Like Me went to two, but Fuller left much earlier. And Pushing Daisies only managed 22 episodes. And yeah, I miss that show. And Wonderfalls!

never saw wonderfalls. daisies was so good/fully realized in its style that it surpassed all my usual defenses against twee things - much like hannibal has a lot of ppl watching extremely violent horror who don't watch horror

mockingbird lane was a disastrous experiment though, idk what ever possessed him to think that was a good idea

never really been into checking out this dude's other shows because I figured there was something about this one that gelled for me

what should I check out if I search out another one?

i hope they planned ahead and wrap up with a definitive answer on who the Chesapeake Ripper is before the end of the season :-(

xp pushing daisies would be my recommend, lotta ppl swear by dead like me though and they have similar vibes