a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

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German chancellor Angela Merkel eats a pickled herring after the name giving ceremony for the fish trawler ROS 777 of the Warnemuender fishery in Sassnitz, eastern Germany.

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why the fuck is it in this thread then?

do people really think bernie has a chance? i can't believe there are people who think that. so silly. Hill -vs- Jeb is such a done deal.

hill yes j.e.b. no imo

Yeah this time four years ago we were waiting for Perry to officially enter the race and sweep all before him.

I guess it's either jeb(!) or walker or maybe rubio? I can't imagine any scenario where it all lines up for anyone else.

"scott seward
Posted: June 19, 2015 at 10:47:23 PM
do people really think bernie has a chance? i can't believe there are people who think that. so silly. Hill -vs- Jeb is such a done deal."

Hmmm yes I remember when Hillary was also a done deal in 2008, good point

Hmmm yes I remember when Hillary was also a done deal in 2008, good point

Young (for a politician), hyper-charismatic black dude vs. cranky 95-year-old white guy who won't even comb his hair = not exactly the same thing.

obama had a ton of support by this point last cycle, already wrapped up a a bunch of endorsements and was polling well, also he was just a better candidate than ol bernie bless his heart

Feel like enough non-Republican people are sick of the Clintons to make it a thing.

Bernie will get a noticeable amount of protest votes, but nowhere near enough to mount a Eugene McCarthy-like challenge to the status quo. If he gets as much as 25% in any primary it will be a laudable miracle.

i've said it before and i'll say it again, if hill or jeb win it would mean 32 years of bush/clinton world rulership. frightening but true!

Something wrong w yr math there

Hw = 4
Bubba = 8
Dubya = 8

That's only 20. Even if hillary wins 2 terms that's 28.

Went back and checked - 10th June four years ago was when Perry first appeared on the relevant thread, by 14th July people were saying it was him Romney and Bachmann.

Which I think more goes to show that we know nothing at this stage.

My suspicion is that it won't be the endless free for all that happened last time, partly because that happened last time and clearly didn't help Romney, and partly because unless Jeb's face falls off at the first debate, the Republicans as a party are generally comfortable with him, unlike the animatronic Mr Burns that they went to any lengths (remember Herman Cain got a push?) to avoid four years ago.

xp "in the white house" is generally how that factoid's phrased.

Hw = 4
Bubba = 8
Dubya = 8

That's only 20. Even if hillary wins 2 terms that's 28.

I think people who care about this usually also include HW's 8 years as Reagan's VP.

yeah, i count the raygun/bush years.

Went back and checked - 10th June four years ago was when Perry first appeared on the relevant thread, by 14th July people were saying it was him Romney and Bachmann.

wait who was saying that Bachmann had a legitimate shot

Romney of all people calling for taking down confederate flag in SC

On mobile sry

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/06/20/mitt-romney-calls-for-removal-of-confederate-flag-at-south-carolina-capitol/

I'm not a gigantic fan of Romney by any stretch of the imagination but, as that article points out, he has been vehemently against the Confederate flag since forever.

"A legitimate shot" isn't really a concept that works well with 2012? But there's a bunch of people considering her as seriously in the race on the thread - comparison with Sarah Palin helps a bit of course.

Dammit

Bernie won't get the nomination, I don't think; but if he did, I legitimately think he would probably win the general against any of these fools.

Winning the nomination would certainly prove that Bernie had wide and deep support among the democratic base. Right there that gives him a good 40% of the vote. He'd be susceptible to being McGoverned by the Republicans, though, and the media would definitely echo that party line for them.

election fan fic

it's a nice fantasy, but the corpo-media-political complex simply would never permit him to be president.

also most pol dont want to vote for him

I don't think even Morbs is suggesting that Clinton isn't going to be the candidate? But it would be nice to have someone to publicly drag her back to the left.

the corpo-media-political complex won't even allow that

to have someone to publicly drag her back to the left.

until she's elected, right? I know after 2008 we don't believe lies from lying shitheads, right?

i mean, my God, Salon articles are already swooning over HilRod's "lefty" pronouncements so far.

http://www.fulwood-cadley.lancsngfl.ac.uk/images/library/Classes/Class%202/Song%20Collection/Pictures/Nursery%20Rhymes/mulberry%20bush.jpg

http://www.fulwood-cadley.lancsngfl.ac.uk/images/library/Classes/Class%202/Song%20Collection/Pictures/Nursery%20Rhymes/mulberry%20bush.jpg

Walker has true believer written all over him. He's not just pro-life; he ran for student council on an anti-abortion platform in college (he also promised to bring INXS and REM to campus). He doesn't just like Ronald Reagan; he and his wife got married on Reagan's birthday and hold an annual Reagan-themed anniversary dinner. Apparently he can't even pretend to be insincere about marriage equality.

http://www.vox.com/2015/6/23/8831247/scott-walker-true-believer

honestly I can't see someone with this weak a chin getting into the White House (important commentary, I know):
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/24/us/politics/scott-walker-promising-bold-leadership-faces-gop-discord-in-wisconsin.html?_r=0

i am physically repulsed by his limp jaw, it's true

he's a less cute version of Vincent Kartheiser/Pete Campbell

plus slightly crosseyed

it's amazing what a hot show can do; Kartheiser is reptilian.

I was about to say that Ted Cruz has even less of a chin than Walker, but then I GISed and huh, I guess his isn't bad. Why do I always think of him as chinless?

His droopy eyes make him look like a cartoon nebbish, and a weak chin goes along with that type.

"he ran for student council on an anti-abortion platform in college (he also promised to bring INXS and REM to campus)"

did he succeed? if not then how can we possibly trust him to run our country?

otm

Black metal-style logos for 2016 Presidential candidates (both teams)

https://twitter.com/BobbyJindal/status/613745877639802881

first response hall of fame

^ what was the first response? can't comprehend order of tweets due to awful new embedding/nesting system

"who isn't?"

so glad he's in, it's been a slow couple of days on the GOP-prez-candidate-announcement trail

looool

I Will

that one's only funny if you read it with a silly voice, sorry

Springsteen and his merry band

Just wanted to see that again.

http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/7497350.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/GeorgeWillLST.jpg

well done

Beautiful.

A+

I've Got My Own Column To Do

Skipping 7686 messages at this point....

surely we need a new thread?

good idea

keep thinking about that, then checking the number of candidates still in the field and going "nah, we're still on board the clown car." i guess eventually it might get down to more a beverly hillbillies car? i really didn't think anybody else was going to pack it in until iowa, but then jindal dropped and who knows, maybe graham, pataki and all-star gilmore will shortly decide it's "not their time."

Buttload of Faith: the 2016 Presidential Primary Thread (Pt 2)

surely the clown car has taken a beating and needs to be traded in for a slightly newer model?

xpost

:)

was gonna go with busload but buttload seemed more appropriate somehow