Green Wood Cemetery in Brooklyn: A Picture Thread

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Yeah, I hear that - a friend took me a few years ago and that sense of contrast (along with the views from the cemetery back into the city) makes it that much more special. Mt. Auburn still is in a fairly suburban area and doesn't benefit from that; it's actually more crowded inside the cemetery than outside, which leads to all sorts of schemes for how to continue to pack in monuments to the wealthy - trees with plaques on them, columbaria, etc.

bentelec, Thursday, 18 June 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link

On the other hand, Bellefontaine Cemetery here in St. Louis, which still has all sorts of city father-types in it, is disinvested and mostly lawn. The most depressing thing is a kind of white flight of the dead where people disinter their relatives and re-bury them in the suburbs.

bentelec, Thursday, 18 June 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link

worth noting that i'm on the kensington side and that there are hipster enclaves elsewhere on the 3.5 mile perimeter... my understanding is that there's a bar that does regular "Frontline of the Zombie Apocalypse" outside the cemetery party nights, which seems really crass to me? Like haw haw, you watch walking dead too great, but that's my grandma in there.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link

that's ridiculous

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 18 June 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

everyone knows the frontline of the zombie apocalypse is the morgues, the zombies in gravyeards will take a while to dig themselves out

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 18 June 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link

along with the unfortunately named "Margaret B. Steenken" we have the Coffin family
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3vibfiOdgs75FbTDlu_aWkPQyT8GuQkiBwsI_6cP_GU%3Dw1379-h1000-no

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

if i was named coffin i'd have made sure to be cremated to scoff at escaping the trap of nominative determinism

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 19 June 2015 09:45 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Took a long walk over the weekend. Found some amazing things.

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 07:09 (eight years ago) link

This was about 4 feet tall, ten feet wide and four feet thick
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Y5nw7oMp0z8-iOhKLEzXCgNSiuU9DN_77gukni6SMFY%3Dw1291-h969-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 07:12 (eight years ago) link

Worn gravestone marker for three children from a family; one aged three and twins who died before they got a full year
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_ibxttS_S043MPc9DQCkYHJbSiMrB_cXbIfyEH2SSi8%3Dw929-h1238-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 07:14 (eight years ago) link

on the second to last "FATHER AND MOTHER" one, you'll see a metal disc near the base. Those are marked "Eternal Care" and tend to be in better shape than other graves. As well as they keep the place up, you do run into LOTS of graves that are knocked over from gravity or weather... many graves are on very steep hills and topple over. some wear down over time. in many cases, you'll find pieces of the stone scattered nearby, often the toppers for some of the older and more rococo pieces poke up from the ground like chess pieces or wedding decorations. In many cases, especially where there's delicate sculpture work near to the ground, time has worn the stone down so much that it's barely recognizable as a form. Some of those fetal pieces are strangely touching and sad.

Some damaged and worn markers:
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GBzF-LoXHRpzymr0EdiNtiDWN_nJ-Pg2VzbtcuZns64%3Dw1291-h1232-no
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nIMuEu1rp7FfQ_MvRLUEScOx2qYnGn7D6rXtbyKEJac%3Dw1160-h1238-no
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gzzs7gQGBhcXz12ylcCjgXHj1-tU-8-72qK_MVMe9aE%3Dw1012-h1238-no
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gJ9cZKG_HmtTF9gcd4HwR7tGnmaDY5QfxkD3JlZH5zE%3Dw1291-h969-no
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yk6sMsfcK7A3GU_DzRvPqsG28jueZWMK1eRf4yWSqGw%3Dw1291-h1200-no
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xD0irN-adE8MxRJYoD6wCe6s7Wfeqf6UKAORW2V2Qgw%3Dw929-h1238-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 07:25 (eight years ago) link

Amidst a smattering of stones, I found a burrow hole as thick and wide as a man's leg that carved directly into several folks final resting place. That is one macabre fox.

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Iy4OberD4gXZqUsQ2KyjJHaWLAVRE_lWCUYYNya1sNE%3Dw1076-h1238-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 07:26 (eight years ago) link

many of the trees in greenwood predate the cemetery and you will quite often find cases where the headstones have been eaten by them

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9Mh39PIcnctosZeXZH3AFiylNBavwgTrEdyAAvFvv6E%3Dw1214-h1238-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 07:29 (eight years ago) link

more to come

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 07:34 (eight years ago) link

the rose marble cylinders on the sides of this piece were loose enough where you could likely have pulled them out

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TR2lI_E7pq4mkwmuesH7DYgx6HAf5alh4zTuXp7EHJY%3Dw929-h1238-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

this zinc?/copper? "gravepole" was completely hollow and rang out when i knocked on the side like a bell

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TR2lI_E7pq4mkwmuesH7DYgx6HAf5alh4zTuXp7EHJY%3Dw929-h1238-no

if you look to the right side you'll see an adjoining marble fire helmet at roughly ankle height... looks like there was some drama in the funeral plans.

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CC-ZFDCdO-v03a172FRun8qlseYxvk0GDyUr0oKz99o%3Dw1291-h975-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

another hollow metal marker for a nine year old: "GONE FROM OUR HOME, BUT NOT FROM OUR HEART".
Given that the marker is 115 years old, I can't imagine who left the stone and the not-so-ancient fake flowers.

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7AlX2ssuLRFkIOEeWLjtExwM-EF28tY0Yj74j5J4LCI%3Dw1292-h764-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

Is this a colonnade? a gazebo? it's pretty goddam imposing whatever it is. each of the four slabs is a sarcophagus for the James family.

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6M5OGek5qBDorfbs_tWDsyWu1zOi7902WCof4NqTJDc%3Dw1291-h969-no

the inner circle is engraved with scripture and the individual names. there's a semicircle bench to sit on that looks decidedly uncomfortable.

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4fk_61qfXPL62iZUVsYhiRCMtYrqdKypTsAdy_Zbtb0%3Dw1291-h969-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

Fun with Typography: the NYTimes' "T"!

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iILLMKmUcvsuXnh_vb7nJX9u8yqZJ_GIKI_nx0lxbvs%3Dw929-h1238-no

typography here is killing me

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t74OH_XpNkJbY99tEY6dIponxIZCGX_WKMDZG-_cxCM%3Dw929-h1238-no

there's a lot of great moments for the eagle-eyed out here; we noticed that Charles Christmas was born on Christmas Eve

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dVB5IbvZU448V3TYY583R8p7h5ewzb-vSMDHBiZPQYw%3Dw929-h1238-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

A more contemporary piece with a bronze "time's arrow" sculpture atop the marker

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wYRPHT7RLQVoumaXAe_RmrSwQneowUlBtyplMb8HsTU%3Dw937-h1238-no

inner ring of one of the bands are roman numerals for clock markers, exterior is astrological symbols

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fm7UE-Qbwk3v7Kpzowx_DFFSRvvceY6M86VB4V0qy0M%3Dw1084-h1238-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link

so we're walking along on a plateau and suddenly all these vents/skylights come into view on the ground.. in the background you can see what looks like the top of a roof with a padlocked door

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tHpQq8S4GD-G--04xfD4oKszHVwA3e_tXp97LNAhRYc%3Dw1291-h969-no

we go down the hill towards the "house" and this is what's there

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JjNSCfFXTelzL7an2evYa1GXBvdOTP9GX04Yu4oIfY%3Dw1291-h900-no

it's a shotgun crypt for folks who couldn't afford their own above ground burial space; they could just move into a brooklyn death apartment. Doors were locked unfortunately but i got an okay shot between the bars of the horror movie beyond.. would love to get a tour of this place with someone who has the keys

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/49nrmhpAo69_KpWOKId9vgeQaE0M7rAUNVnSwPxbbBw%3Dw785-h1238-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link

there are loads of beautiful and amazingly well kept flower gardens all over the premises

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/j55Kjp7osZE6UPA6bai1fFhuf4ERtTS9iuP8XS4M0pg%3Dw1291-h969-no

plus wildflowers growing alongside paths

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MTQlBo4HsurJAXPBy9CVkTIsmN5UTQl6KaCmX211XHw%3Dw929-h1238-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

great thread forks, i don't know how i missed it til now!

1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

KM, you need to take a trip with us to this amazing place; it's near your home!

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

hi dere two five foot long metal lions guarding a long-gone grave site that now has a tree rising in the center

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4KOO_ItKv1JkGro_VxRBmbeA5gEdaYhvN7vowNTUtgE%3Dw1291-h911-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

at the foot of the stone above, there's THIS... which i think is a dog grave. The sculpture's face being worn off makes it all the more intense...

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ejGMzFKKCG5O0M0m4I-ZqcverkhrqzJP7rCBo5FGOvc%3Dw1291-h969-no

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link

great photos, forks!

did you come across any 'white bronze' (actually zinc) headstones in your travels? I tend to look out for them when I'm walking through a cemetery. you can spot them by their color and sharp lettering (or by knocking on them) and they always seem to be extremely well-preserved compared to stones of the same vintage.

stoomcursus rockisme (unregistered), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link

yes, great thread
<3 those eroded sculptures
yes 'heartbreaking' 'bizarre' 'intense'
terrifyingly, uncannily beautiful

drash, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link

thanks for the kind words
there are a few zinc headstones in greenwood:
http://www.green-wood.com/2009/zinc-you-think/

i'm pretty sure that lamb "stone" upthread from 1900 is zinc.

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

so somebody has a webcomic set in the cemetery
http://c-realm.com/comic/page/2/

one month passes...

http://www.green-wood.com/event/moonlight-walking-tour-3/
"The skeptical can simply enjoy the frisson of nighttime skulking, accompanied by live accordion music. Please bring a flashlight to light your way."

ulysses, Thursday, 18 February 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link

also: http://www.green-wood.com/event/all-dogs-go-to-heaven-trolley-tour/
http://www.green-wood.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/dog-tour-600x398.jpg

Expert tour guide Ruth Edebohls leads this trolley tour to visit grave sites of dogs including Gypsy, Laddie, Little Dace, Trilby and Rex, a horse who fought in the Union Army, and others.

ulysses, Thursday, 18 February 2016 18:01 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Nope, on my computer. The last one I can see is this one. The url is googleusercontent.com; the new ones are photos.google.com?

mutually aquatinted (doo dah), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 14:02 (eight years ago) link

Okay, one more time with feeling, all the way back to February... these coming through?

http://i.imgur.com/8Cj08xo.jpg

sometimes the ground gives and the stones sink and it can be very sad

http://i.imgur.com/2nrUbVd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yzm4J2x.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1653ECl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PQ1dgkJ.jpg

ulysses, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 01:48 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/VzkEYL7.jpg
Several smaller markers - either parts of a larger piece or stones that were recently exhumed from where they've slumped into the earth - can often be found dotting the landscape almost randomly. I like how this one has been installed like a fairy home.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/BBsmXtU.jpg
Basquiat's grave is a personal favorite as I'm a fan of his work. It's one of the most heavily-sought out (and, given the size of the stone, hardest to find) spots in the cemetery and attracts the most offerings from visitors. Generally these are cleared out on a weekly-or-so basis by the groundskeepers but, given the current influx of bodies and general madness, I imagine they're running behind. I've found letters, artwork, pens, paints, spray cans, money, all kinds of stuff here. Today's sighting includes a cunning miniature bust of Van Gogh made of Sculpey clay (barely visible in this picture above the dash in "Jean-Michel"), a tattered Puerto Rican flag and a macrame coaster.

http://i.imgur.com/EXKR3rp.jpg
Age has worn down most of the stones and left behind a dark patina of lichen and soot. Sometimes this makes them difficult to decipher; sometimes it renders them newly beautiful in ways the original sculptor could hardly have dreamed of.

http://i.imgur.com/tv9SeGM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JOAdnAg.jpg
One of the best of the Cemetery's many outrageous ornamental door handles.

http://i.imgur.com/i0IKR9g.jpg


Spectacular metal work on a tomb door window.

http://i.imgur.com/UoH7J9G.jpg
Probably unrelated... but who knows!

http://i.imgur.com/ya3y67y.jpg
This grave is something of an ongoing mystery for me. There are no other markings or names on the stone but the ones you see here and the marker stands a good seven feet tall. There are no stones for a considerable portion of space in front of the marker... enough room to, say, bury a horse. That said, when I asked him, the Cemetery historian stated categorically that he does not believe there is a horse buried on the grounds. One wonders if perhaps the Seaman in question is Seaman Lichtenstein who, as per this 1902 obit "was a lover of horses and owned many fast trotters, some of which held records"? Further research and conversation is likely necessary.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/136450223/seaman-lichtenstein

http://i.imgur.com/94oBWzm.jpg
A shady spot hides a uniquely stylized rendering of the Sacratissimum Cor Iseu (aka "Sacred Heart of Jesus") pose
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Heart

http://i.imgur.com/2kmjFIl.jpg
It was once common to have a head and foot stone, especially over the grave of children, with a garden running between. Most of these are now barren so it's always a treat to see new life sprouting from within.

http://i.imgur.com/uPPHx34.jpg
Two-year-old John R Hardenbergh was my May 3 "happy death day" sighting. The 1904 Corporate Directory linked below lists Thomas E Hardenbergh as the Secretary of the NJ Singer Manufacturing Company
https://books.google.com/books?id=IOU5AQAAMAAJ
https://www.loc.gov/item/nj0983/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/09PMJQ5.jpg
Chatty and esoterically phrased writing on stones always catches my eye. Here's "Children Meet Me In Heaven" "Saved By Grace" and the particularly puzzling "Face To Face" for the Hunt family.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/89367144/john-wesley-hunt

http://i.imgur.com/cmC22VZ.jpg
A flower path up the stairs to Schults... and dig the funky typeface on the family name!

http://i.imgur.com/r7Z7Azs.jpg
The inset stone here does fade against the white background but it has been restored as of 2012 and still lovingly describes the outlines of Isabelle Georgia's beautiful cameo. The inscription below reads "Adored By All Who Knew Her"

http://i.imgur.com/bDqrb2M.jpg
Not pictured: Hufflepuff across the way.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/13-hours-22-bodies-long-lonesome-shift-crematory-worker-heat-n1186981

was walking up a hill at the front gate and saw the smoke coming up and recognized what I was seeing and there's a moment

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 May 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

some real pressure points from that link

Padilla began working at Green-Wood three years after the 9/11 attacks. He started as a part-time landscaper, but three years later, in 2007, a full-time job opened up. To land it, Padilla had to complete a 40-day trial that culminated in a unique test given to all prospective Green-Wood employees: dig a full-size grave by himself in under four hours.

“I dug the hole, and I cried the minute I was done, like a little baby,” said Padilla, who was then 27. “It was a major accomplishment for myself.”

“I love coming here every day, even with everything that’s happening,” Padilla said. “Have you seen this place?” he said when asked why. “How beautiful it is?”

Padilla said the crisis hit him especially hard one day last week when he noticed two sets of remains came in the same day, a man and woman with the same last name. Padilla said it appeared they were a husband and wife who both died from COVID-19, apparently within hours of each other.

Padilla drove toward the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway and headed east, nodding his head to tracks from the late rapper Pop Smoke. He soon pulled up outside his home in Middle Village, Queens, where he lives with his girlfriend.

It was nearing 10 p.m. Padilla knew there were about two dozen sets of remains waiting for him when he showed up at work the next morning. Thursday was the first day of his work week. He had six more days ahead of him. But he wasn’t thinking about that now. He was exhausted and just wanted to take a shower. Padilla walked into his bedroom and kicked off his shoes, but he never made it to the shower. He lay down in his bed, still fully dressed, and drifted off into a deep sleep.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 May 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Speaking of Pop Smoke, I kept running into groups of kids in hoodies in the same section of the cemetery and couldn't figure out why... that's hardly a regular occurrence. A bit of research revealed he was buried in one of the new sections of the cemetery and they must be paying respects. I'll try to find and get a photo next time I'm in there.

I have a few hundred more pictures from the past two weeks but it takes time to upload and curate and read up on the histories... anybody care?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 23 May 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

I like looking and reading the histories (if they're short). But it's on your time, so do what you will.

nickn, Sunday, 24 May 2020 06:55 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Experimental/Broadway composer/singer/songwriter Gelsey Bell just released a music-infused walking tour of Green-Wood; I'm a fan of her work and figure this is worth $7 for either a virtual exploration or an in-person one if you're nearby enough to do it there. I'll test drive afore too long.
https://gelseybell.bandcamp.com/album/cairns

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 1 August 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

took a walk out there to get my head together and found an all-time champion.

Ladies, gentlemen, intersex and non-binary: allow me to introduce you to... Mother Puttfarcken

http://i.imgur.com/X8XZByf.jpg

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 January 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link

It wasn't particularly close given the sheer quality of "Mother Puttfarcken" but second place name of the walk went to the under-any-other-circumstances strong contender: Sister Eunice Dibble Rehorn
http://i.imgur.com/IEtZqYa.jpg

Bronze goes to Flossey M. Sullivan, "A bud on earth to bloom in Heaven."
http://i.imgur.com/TNVY6Fz.jpg

Epitaph weirdo of the day is this line for two-year old baby Clydie: "Who plucked that flower? THE MASTER!"
http://i.imgur.com/vPmMu2I.jpg

Second place:
http://i.imgur.com/OZ8vKns.jpg

Kinda love these two.
http://i.imgur.com/eWWblBA.jpg

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 January 2021 01:32 (three years ago) link

I needed these, thank u forks

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Friday, 8 January 2021 01:44 (three years ago) link

i'm glad! i wish you'd come out sometime.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 January 2021 02:37 (three years ago) link


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