Best Final Fantasy poll !!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kznek1uNVsg

Gonna be crazy.

I think enough time has passed now that doing a straight remake is out of the question, but there is a lot of stuff in FFVII I hope they don't throw out. For instance the crossdressing section that a lot of people think will need to be cut could be spun in a more modern way. It is front page material. As are a lot of themes in this game (terrorism, environmental catastrophes, the military-industrial complex, rising awareness of wealth inequality, etc.). Plus the game had cell phones .... in 1997!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

i sure do like that game.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

The scope of this will be insane though. Just imagine going around w the submarine and coming upon Emerald Weapon under the ocean.....in HD!

Hope they do something special for the Chocobo Races, they were the sublime psychedelic Yellow Submarine cartoons of the polygonal age.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

i kinda don't think this game needs super sparkling graphics? it sure hasn't helped the later FFs. Everything looking like a michael bay film is a bug, not a feature.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link

agreed, i'm kinda excited about this because i haven't played FF7 since '03 (and that was a nostalgic 2nd playthrough after graduating college and before getting a job), but it might turn out that block hands were part of the magic.

weirdly i'm most excited for the submarine mini-game.

lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link

kupo

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link

Everything looking like a michael bay film is a bug, not a feature.

^^ can't be stated enough

example (crüt), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-CSDeeVtI

Michael Bay this.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

currently on the FF7 wiki :)

in 2015 E3 announced the REMAKE of FINAL FANTASY 7 is true, and on going until the release date sometime around 2017, and many fans are REJOICED, and HYPE like Crazy on many Social media. same did happened with SQUAREENIX Holdings, it was rising sharply as the announcement goes. TETSUYA NOMURA is the Director, and Yoshinori Kitase as the Producer. many fans think it will be PS4 Exclusive, but at the end of the trailer credits section, it is written -play it 1st on PLAYSTATION 4- this lead to many oppurtunity that it may come also to XBOXone and PC later years.

lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

it is written

example (crüt), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

I have no idea why this game is like the cultural touchstone of gamers younger than me.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

it's the first RPG for which I remember seeing a television commercial

example (crüt), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

Came out when I was 16, and I got it for PC. Didn't finish it til years later on emulator and it was really fun to play. There weren't many games around that had cool CD stuff, and it made really good use of all that storage space. I don't think they recycle a single enemy from one area to another. Music is incredible. Summon animations are still jaw-dropping if you've never seen them before.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link

Also upon replaying it I found a lot of the quirkier elements were actually really cool and ahead of their time and maybe things that I wouldn't see in USA-produced entertainment circa 1997. Thought provoking stuff about many deep issues from the politics of war and scarcity to environmental pollution, social/economic stratification, and philosophical/psychological ego explorations. You don't see much of that written into entertainment made for 16-year-olds and explored at any length.

I think for a lot of American kids that grew up w FFVII it opened some intellectual doors to concepts from a non-Western viewpoint that they would otherwise have missed. Having grown up in Reagan's America and the following Gulf War it was probably the first time I had encountered a popular media object that took a long look at environmental pollution and the costs of war and the profit motives of its cheerleaders.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

Im just jealous there's no ff6 remake for next gen consoles

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link

^^^absolutely. that's the one i really want to see.

Nhex, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:03 (eight years ago) link

me too, and it looks like FF director Nomura wants it as well

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 18 June 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

FFVII was also the big steal for Sony from Nintendo, and they were supremely dickish about it - I remember a TV ad claiming that the latest iteration of one of their Nintendo competitors (Dragon Quest?) would fit six times over into FFVII's opening cinematic.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 26 June 2015 11:47 (eight years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://finalsfantasy.com/

ulysses, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

So I had intended to play through the series from the very beginning, but I have to ask: is there a point where these installments dispense with the super-fun feature of an insurmountably-insane difficulty spike late in the game that forces the player rage quit for the sake of his or her own sanity? I'm three deep and all three have wound up like this. Increasingly challenging, forcing you to develop particular skills and allocate particular resources, and then...blam, you're instadead. Oh look blam, you're instadead again. And again. And again. I just last night played through 30-45 minutes of FF 3 inside some floating tree castle thing sloughing off HP and items with no place to save my game but doin' okay because man this is a war for the soul of the earth (or whatever, I pay approximately zero attention to the stories in these things) but then I get to a boss at whom I throw literally everything I have to throw and he's like, yeah no bye. I may have flipped off my Vita. It's possible.

I generally find these old school turn-based RPGs very soothing, so the fact that I've ultimately found three early editions of this series very unsoothing does not bode well. Maybe I'll just jump on ahead to VII. I know that one soothed me out of a mess of college classes I should've attended instead of playing FFVII so it seems like a safe bet.

Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Friday, 24 November 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link

I think that gets better after III iirc? I don’t know why anybody would inflict the first two on themselves in this day and age tbh.

El Tomboto, Friday, 24 November 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

With those early ones you just have to do a lot of grinding before the last bit, which isn't fun exactly but nature of the beast. I only played the remake of III for the DS and iirc it wasn't too bad. But I'm playing IV for the first time, I'm near the end and it's not too bad but there are several bosses that pull sneaky bullshit like putting a death counter on the entire party and stuff like that which means I'm barely scraping through the whole time.

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 24 November 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link

Oh and FFII doesn't help itself by have a teeeerrrible leveling system. I didn't enjoy that one too much.

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 24 November 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I read something about the leveling in 2 (I assume you mean the thing where you only level up by letting yourself get beat to shit?) so it wasn't that bad since I was prepared. I just counterintuitively ran around without armor a lot of the time.

Just downloaded 4 because I'm a masochist.

Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Friday, 24 November 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

With IV (even the "hard" version) the games got much much easier. I've never made it through the NES titles.

Nhex, Friday, 24 November 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

IV has a difficulty spike when you get to a certain faraway locale.
V gets super boring in the second half. i guess that's a kind of difficulty? I tried replaying it a few years ago, and gave up during that endless forest fire segment.

Einstein, Bazinga, Sitar (abanana), Friday, 24 November 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

I never beat it - got to the very end, found out I was a bit underleveled for the final dungeon and gave up. But someday!

Nhex, Saturday, 25 November 2017 07:13 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdwxq512u8A

this song is amazing. it's also named "Underneath the Rotting Pizza"

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 February 2018 04:45 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8o9gGOKEg4

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 February 2018 04:46 (six years ago) link

Zoso's cousin theme

Nhex, Thursday, 22 February 2018 06:25 (six years ago) link

playing the steam demo of Final Fantasy XV. it is so great!

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:00 (six years ago) link

so this demo for Final Fantasy XV is great. the intro area is very cool. the story is nice and understandable, it's sort of like an American road movie, at least in the intro. the music is wonderful throughout, the starting garage has this live acoustic guitar with warm Hammond organ sound that gives it a country & western (Italian western being a big US-Japan cultural influence, im watching Fist of the North Star right now and it is very much like those old Clint Eastwood movies) here we have that but with rockstar Japanese cinematic-fantasy royalty.

the battles are so fun, i love the warp ability, it is alot of fun to use. the animation all over is incredible and the character design is great. it is trying to be an HD "realistic" version of the fantasy.

luckily that has not stopped them from including magical sparks and goblins and iron giants and cactuars and chocobos only now they are rendered in HD in realtime with expensive animation and soundtrack work by people that have recently rebuffed their own studio's fantasy output through working with Disney, another studio who has long shared a love of pop fantasy. the post-battle world music makes me think of Kingdom Hearts and imo that is a very good thing.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I dug out my PS1 copy of FFVIII a few months back. Having not played a final fantasy in over a decade, I had a sudden itch to dive back in and give it another go; it was the only one I played that I never managed to beat back then. And I went in with the feeling I wouldn't get very far, just couldn’t imagine having patience for endless random active time battles in this day and age. But it pulled me right back in, all the way to the awesome last dungeon and grueling final battle. I wanna replay every damn FF now!

Anyway, here are some fun write-ups on the series by Jason Schreier, with nifty world-map artwork for each entry (he's taking his time getting around to them, though - note the dates on the entries for VIII and IX!)

https://kotaku.com/tag/ff-retrospective

Duane Barry, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link

Title of the VI review says "Simply the Best" so I already agree this dude knows what's up

Nhex, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

I played through VI again after VIII and god, it's so good

Duane Barry, Friday, 18 October 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

Been playing through FFX for the first time. It's extremely stupid but the battles + leveling system are fun

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Sunday, 2 August 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link

love that big fucking grid

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 2 August 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

I've been playing through the fan translation of FF5 and uh, yeah, it can be a bit boring at times? Maybe i'm just a little tired of JRPGs after playing them a bunch this year but the battles just feel repetitive, even if you mix it up with the job system. Also the story is meh and the characters are all flat.

In contrast, iv might be a bit easy (I played the hardtype version and it was still easy!) but it has great characters, a good story, an interesting setting and an incredible soundtrack. all v has going for it is that it's challening.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 26 December 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

like the boss theme in iv is just a straight adrenaline rush

josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 26 December 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

5 has fans because some people are crazy for job systems but in general there's a reason why it was the one out of 4-6 to get passed over for global release the first time around

ciderpress, Saturday, 26 December 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

yeah, it's definitely not as refined as IV or VI in the storytelling/thrillpower department. it certain has its own virtues though

Nhex, Saturday, 26 December 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link

This is another one of those ilx polls that is just “how old are you” in a different guise isn’t it

is right unfortunately (silby), Saturday, 26 December 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

Gilgamesh's appearances makes FFV worthwhile

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 27 December 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

been playing them starting from 4 (up to 7 now) and 5 is really just miles above the rest in gameplay. job system is consistently rewarding and thorough and the game's commitment to special statuses makes it sim-like, the whole thing is just a pile of on/off switches that all interact with each other in fun ways. later FF games always treat statuses and ailments and things of that nature like superfluous genre obligations, 5 is built around them.

, Sunday, 27 December 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link

FFV's job system is fun to play around with but the game still gets boring in the second half. I played through it twice and started getting bored in the forest fire section both times. I tried a "four job fiesta" run and it was so boring that I quit halfway through.

Fans of FFV should check out Dragon Quest V, released a few months earlier in 1992, maybe the first jrpg based around recruiting monsters i.e. the pokemon formula.

wasdnuos (abanana), Sunday, 27 December 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link

the first megami tensei game came out in 1987! but yes DQ5 was what popularized it and led more directly to pokemon

ciderpress, Sunday, 27 December 2020 02:55 (three years ago) link

Gilgamesh's appearances makes FFV worthwhile

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, December 26, 2020 4:00 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh yeah the battle of the big bridge fight in FFV is obviously amazing

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 27 December 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link

I need to play FF6 again so I can face the final boss rush properly — The last time I was over-leveled and cheesed my way through it by equipping everyone with Flame Shields and spamming Merton. I wish they'd release it on the Switch (not the hideous-looking mobile version)

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link

lol i forgot about "Merton"

ciderpress, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link


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