Yeah it's like beyond debate really, doesn't matter, Charlie was the drummer the Rolling Stones needed
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 June 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link
While we're at it, Bill Wyman a massively underrated bassist.
Love Charlie but would never call him a metronome
Oh, no, not at all (see: all the times the Stones songs end up twice as fast as they began). But '70s on, he just started to groove. Fewer fills, etc. Much more of that trick he does, where he never hits the snare and the hi-hat at the same time. Which is what largely makes him look like a wind-up monkey.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 June 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link
http://michaelroyfisher.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/allow-me-to-explain-to-you-why-charlie-watts-is-important/
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 June 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link
yeah i didnt mean it as a dis or that he's not creative, just reliability idk
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 June 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link
i actually read bill wyman's book as a teenage stones obsessive and it is still prob the single most boring book on an inherently exciting subject i have ever read
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 14 June 2015 23:36 (eight years ago) link
bill is a fun vacuum
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 June 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link
Oh, no, not at all (see: all the times the Stones songs end up twice as fast as they began).
Yeah and it's funny how that's supposed to be "wrong"... Like it seems sort of natural and musical for more rocking parts to pick up or for a song to gather steam
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 June 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link
yeah, like classical music doesn't change tempos every few bars
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Monday, 15 June 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
charles mingus, good company to keep
― j., Monday, 15 June 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link
"honky tonk women" best example I can think of acceleration of tempo
― calstars, Monday, 15 June 2015 01:41 (eight years ago) link
Isley Brothers' "Fight The Power" speeds way the hell up. Ditto Melanie's "Lay Down."
I'll take speedups over click-track precision any day.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 June 2015 01:47 (eight years ago) link
the funny thing about the stones is that most of the times, live, they're an absolute mess when they start and end a song (I don't know about now, though, I mean in the old footage).It's like they had never rehearsed these parts and everyone got in and out whenever they feel like it !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 15 June 2015 11:04 (eight years ago) link
(iirc) According to Andy Johns, Charlie couldn't nail the breakdown leading into the coda (the stuff under the "You got to roll me!" part), so Miller filled in, and that's him for the rest of the song.― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 June 2015 19:42 (Yesterday) Permalink
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 June 2015 19:42 (Yesterday) Permalink
He couldn't nail the balls-achingly simple drum pattern to 'Ventilator Blues' without having Bobby Keyes clapping beside him, either. Definitely wouldn't call Watts a metronome, he speeds up and slows down like there's no tomorrow, and his drum fills always sound like they're falling down a flight of stairs.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 15 June 2015 11:17 (eight years ago) link
My fave SF/Stones cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzfy7aKB9oo
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 June 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link
his drum fills always sound like they're falling down a flight of stairs.
how drum fills should sound imo (as long as they end on the downbeat)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link
why does the doctor have no face??!?
― j., Monday, 5 December 2016 01:59 (seven years ago) link
In an attempt to shock and provoke, I ranked brown sugar too low in this thread. This is the true order:
Dead FlowersSwayWild horsesMoonlight mileBrown sugarCan you hear me knocking?BitchI got the blues....
You gotta move
― Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 02:05 (seven years ago) link
Sister Morphine after Wild Horses
― Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 02:07 (seven years ago) link
I like "You Gotta Move"
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 5 December 2016 02:08 (seven years ago) link
I understand why it's there, some friction was needed after the groovy second half of can u hear me knocking, but i dont like it
― Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 02:10 (seven years ago) link
Which is weird bc i like a lot of similar tracks on exile
You Gotta Move is so terrible, treeship otm
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link
"Brown Sugar" is the 2nd worst song on the record.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Monday, 5 December 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link
The live version of YGM they did in the mini-acoustic set on the '69 tour is better
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:16 (seven years ago) link
Can't You Hear Me KnockingBitchBrown SugarWild HorsesSwaySister MorphineDead FlowersMoonlight MileI Got The BluesYou Gotta Moo
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51hkdDAxctL.jpg
― a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link
You gotta mooYou gotta mooYou gotta moo, chileYou gotta moo
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
How now, Brown Sugar
― a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link
Wild Cows-es couldnt drag me awayyyyy
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link
Sticky Udders? sorry
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
Knocking / Sway / Sugar (tie)MoonlightBitchMorphineHorsesFlowersMove
― calstars, Friday, 9 December 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link
Moo-light MileI Got The Moo's
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 9 December 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link
is it "that demon-life" or "that demon, life"
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 5 March 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
Sway solo is so tasty
― calstars, Monday, 5 March 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link
First time Jagger plays electric rhythm on a track.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 March 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
played this for my one year old the other day and his mind was blown.
― Heez, Monday, 5 March 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link
Moonlight Mile is the tune for me that years after having the record grew on me as a favorite. "Oh I'm sleeping under strange, strange skies..."
― earlnash, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link
Paul Buckmaster's strings sound really good on Moonlight Mile too.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link
"that demon-life"
― new noise, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 01:53 (six years ago) link
swaycan’t you hear me knockingmoonlight milewild horsesbrown sugardead flowersbitchsister morphineyou gotta movei got the blues
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 19 April 2019 13:41 (five years ago) link
charlie watts is a fucking awesome drummer
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 19 April 2019 13:48 (five years ago) link
wild horsesswaydead flowersmoonlight milecan't you hear me knockingsister morphinebrown sugari got the bluesyou gotta move
can't go wrong with any of the first 7 imo. and listening again, i got the blues is a bit better than i remember.
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Friday, 19 April 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link
oh, and bitch slots in under brown sugar
swaybrown sugarmoonlight mileyou gotta movedead flowersbitchwild horsessister morphinecan't you hear me knockingi got the blues
― L'assie (Euler), Friday, 19 April 2019 14:09 (five years ago) link
'Moonlight Mile''Sway''Brown Sugar''Wild Horses''Can't You Hear Me Knocking''Sister Morphine''You Gotta Move''Bitch''Dead Flowers''I Got the Blues'
― pomenitul, Friday, 19 April 2019 14:16 (five years ago) link
man none of us really like i got the blues--that organ tone tho!
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Friday, 19 April 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link
I had it #5 and I stand by my ranking. If it’s good enough for Solomon Burke it’s good enough for me.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 19 April 2019 14:24 (five years ago) link
i really like every song on this record
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 19 April 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link
'I Got the Blues' isn't bad, but it's on Sticky Fingers.
― pomenitul, Friday, 19 April 2019 14:39 (five years ago) link
yeah i mean i have it 9th, such a great record. their 68-72 period is still the most mind-boggling stretch of musical greatness ever, to my ears.
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Friday, 19 April 2019 14:43 (five years ago) link