CocoRosie member goes to "Kill Whitey" Ironic dance parties and gets called out by brainwashed.com as racist

The 90s stuff I was thinking about, beyond the QL clip upthread, was Black Moon, who iirc had a lot of 'bloodclaat / botzi bwoy' type lyrics. Also didn't intend for this to become a "thing," was just reminiscing after watching that Latifah video.

BTW, is Latifah dissing Boss in that third verse? Sure sounds like it.

xp i think it's more about showing flashes of afrocentricity, from within the home (american) culture? and the binary (unity and violence, say) is present in that one too. so the salient thing about patois or whatever is not that it constitutes an attempt to appropriate or imitate (or give accurate representation), but that it momentarily decenters or translates a primary experience with which it shares something.

Also there were Jamaican communities within NYC and even artists like say Super Cat who moved to the US and collaborated with hip hop guys and I'm sure there was a lot of crossover in the club scene between hip hop and dancehall audiences, this isn't exactly like Mick and the Stones doing cod reggae

xp That can be true in some cases. Rastafarianism is a unifying movement and referring back to pan-African themes that are more heavily developed in the Caribbean than a lot of other places can be very positive. I don't see that being the primary motivating factor in a lot of cases and, even where it is, it requires a level of engagement beyond surface cliches to not simply reinforce those surface cliches for the primary audience.

shit dude i ain't over here studying up on haile selassie, i think it's pretty plain?

but i think this goes for the less harmonious cultural transfer too.

a licky boom boom down

all bets are off when canada

Toronto had a huge/significant Jamaican community and reggae scene fyi

think it's weird to take rappers to task (esp 80s/90s rappers) for quoting dancehall/adopting patois when rap was all about quotations and repurposing cultural signifiers AND the links between rap culture and Jamaican music culture go so very, very deep - right back to the beginning - with huge overlaps in audience, technological approaches, politics etc.

haha i know they do it's just… who can say what anything means in canada

the 70's was kind of the peak of bad faux-caribbean accents. you could easily make a 10-disc box set out of bad fake/cod reggae/calypso tunes by white artists. it was an unstoppable force and i'll never understand why nobody even gave it a second thought.

and lyrically, the vast majority of them were just as offensive as the accents.

that's not what's at issue tho

maybe it's thanks to having grown up with parents who played lots of ub40 and the police, but i kinda like cod reggae. i love real reggae too of course, but there's something about bad white reggae i can't help sort of loving for quite different reasons.

ace of base were nazis

eager to propagate the aryan race iirc

All that she wants
Is another baby
And to heil Hitler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4XD5MTMACg

tbf only one member of Ace of Base was a neo-Nazi.

The guy seemed genuinely mortified that he'd had any involvement with far-right politics afterwards.

das racist is one of the worst rap acts ever

tbf only one member of Ace of Base was a neo-Nazi.

wait really???????????????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulf_Ekberg

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/24/ace-of-base-nazi-past-lyrics_n_3148797.html

In 1998 some of his old songs were released on the compilation album Uffe was a Nazi!.

how did I never hear about this

ok wow

maybe people knew how much you love them

I am mentally singing "Uffe was a Nazi!" to the tune of "Mary Had a Baby"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPK29mexIi0

Learned about it from some Mountain Goats stage patter.

I thought this was one of those well-known facts!

tbf I've aggressively ignored any and all biographical information about Ace of Base and just bumped those original singles

i just put on the the tom tom club at the store and i totally forgot about the song "bamboo town".

xp often the best strategy

Ace of Base (feat. Boyd Rice & Death in June) - "All that She Wants (Is Another Nazi)"

LOL

memories

This sounds like the worst thing

"What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat. "What . . . gonna . . . do dance . . ." he raps to the beat.

Uffie was a nazi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0SuIMUoShI

CocoRosie: As charming as ever.

The loft used to belong to Bianca, and it is still filled with her art work, including a photograph of a brown dildo encased in purple quartz. (“I’m interested in exploring black-male sexual stereotypes,” she said, laconically.)

this is self-parody at this point

haha it's like she's seen the classic nabisco post
Why does Europe love CocoRosie so much?

"Bianca, who had concluded that the ancestry of her and her sister is part Cherokee, “but more Syrian than anything else,” said that she was going to wing it. “I really like to surprise myself.” "

of COURSE she is Cherokee

“The Camargue’s a landscape with just the right amount of darkness and death,” Bianca said. “Pale-wheat land and gray skies, the migration of storks in December, this Gypsy fête where they take the black Madonna into the sea. But it’s also harsh and ugly, trashed with lying-around junk. I’m in love with West Texas, and this part of France is completely Texan, ancient cowboys with leathery skin and light-blue eyes.” She went on, “We’ve started this thing called white-trash Sundays, where we burn wooden palettes, have our way with tractors. At night, the baby screech owls scream for food—it’s the most demonic sound I’ve ever heard.”

“We record in our courtyard at dusk,” Sierra added. “The birds are leaking into every song.”

Objectum-sexuals

seriously why is Cherokee the default tribe that white people claim is in their blood

I blame Europe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRP8e47x55o

i blame don fardon. or paul revere & the raiders.

i'm trying to think of the worst-case scenario with these guys. maybe starring in a netflix mini-series about the antebellum south that is directed by miranda july. that oughta do it.

i only read about them here though. who is their audience in 2015? french people?

Was at a gig over the weekend - one of the acts was 'rejected and unheard of in his home country (UK) but had gained popularity in France'

this monstrous red flag did not dissuade me from hearing his set, which was some self-indulgent misogynist loathsome ageing-singer-songwriter flathat-wearing bullshit of the most irksome order

I liked their first record, or maybe it was the second one. It had some charm. but they personally sound like loathsome narcissistic art school people with little to no actual experience with actual human beings.