Sex Pistols?

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when the kids fly United, the airfares will be divided.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

p much every musical movement "fails" at achieving non-musical goals

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link

What kind of weirdo would get one of those cards

― JRN, Tuesday, June 9, 201

Urban Outfitter shoppers.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

the monarchy still endures, but maybe it wasn't sarcasm and he really did mean it, man.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

he never did get to go over the berlin wall, never understood that bit at all

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 11 June 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

No "Your future dream is a shopping scheme" jokes no cred

0/10

F-

No stars

Hell Books (latebloomer), Thursday, 11 June 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

i started thinking about making an 'is this the APR?' joke but

irl friend of the geir (NickB), Thursday, 11 June 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

"I've got a card machine ready for you, baybeh"

OK, no more..

Mark G, Friday, 12 June 2015 09:53 (eight years ago) link

Oh Sex Pistols, they're like my favourite brand of t-shirt. They do a visa card? Booooring. I pay for everything with my weird mobile phone chip these days.

Or

40-60-something old punks who now wear ties to work.

Or

Who knows?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 June 2015 11:49 (eight years ago) link

For me the most important thing that punk did was open up possibilities of making music, expression etc... for a greater number of people. In this sense it.completely succeeded.

Hinklepicker, Friday, 12 June 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link

eleven months pass...

New vinyl boxset of 1976 concerts:
4th June – 1976: Lesser Free Trade Hall, Manchester
29th August – 1976: Screen on the Green, Islington
17th September 1976: HM Prison, Chelmsford
25th September – 1976: 76 Club, Burton on Trent

Probably no band ever been so well documented live (except Grateful Dead obv) so for diehards only I guess. First two mostly for historical documentation purposes. Chelmsford recording is great quality - the best recording of the Matlock era, and I don't think has been officially released with all it's tracks in the right order and without overdubs (but probably has), so that's good.

everything, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

The 4cd box is £30, which seems steep..

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

Oh, didn't notice it was on CD. That's better. But yeah, silly price for CDs considering everyone who's likely to care has already heard it all before.

everything, Thursday, 9 June 2016 00:31 (seven years ago) link

The other day I heard Did You No Wrong for the first time, they played it on satellite radio. I had no idea it even existed. What a fantastic song.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 9 June 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link

Yes, its a not of a lost b-side. Also "Sattelite" which didn't even make it to the "Flogging a dead horse" singles album for some reason.

Mark G, Thursday, 9 June 2016 06:38 (seven years ago) link

Yes, it's a bit of a lost etc.

Mark G, Thursday, 9 June 2016 06:39 (seven years ago) link

it's always bugged me that it's so hard to come by the handful of "real" sex pistols tracks that aren't on NMTB (i.e., sung by lydon, studio-recorded): "i wanna be me," "satellite," "no fun," "did you no wrong." those are fantastic performances that should've been tacked onto the one real album at some point as bonus tracks, not scattered across a bunch of crummy ripoff albums among those shitty ronnie biggs singles and malcolm mclaren spoken word tracks or whatever.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:17 (seven years ago) link

Those are all on Kiss This

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:28 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, main reason for investing in it.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 08:35 (seven years ago) link

It also has the entire NMTB on it, so it's the only Sex Pistols I own.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 09:01 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

Glen Matlock at tail end of a tour? Could be a good idea for next Friday night at the Phoenix Artists Club in London?

https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/event/EIKEEJ

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG7N9pFGqHM

MaresNest, Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Comment from six months ago says Steve Jones had a heart attack.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMoJs2JSH9I

Stevolende, Sunday, 2 August 2020 07:55 (three years ago) link

Jones has been recovering, though it required emergency surgery and like any heart attack survivor, he's had to make some adjustments. Interview where he discusses life after his heart attack.

birdistheword, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Kinda sad re: his wife but also Lydon is sorta too online, for the worst.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/13/john-lydon-sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-danny-boyle-the-queen

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 June 2022 10:29 (one year ago) link

Skimmed quickly. Nothing other than what I’ve come to expect.

The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 June 2022 11:15 (one year ago) link

did anyone watch Pistol yet?

stirmonster, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

about halfway through. Watchable if you're not like totally hung up on historical accuracy and all like that.
I think I need to read the source book but have half wanted to for a while.
It's ok I guess, one of several things i'm trying to watch so not getting overly prioritised.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

I think Chrissie Hynde reportedly watched and contacted Steve Jones, basically saying she was stunned how much they inflated and exaggerated both her relationship with Jones and her role in Sex Pistols lore.

birdistheword, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

the steve jones book is very readable

mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

Viv Albertine's first book is really good and has a different perspective on some of the characters here than I've heard elsewhere. Sid actually seems human.
Might make an interesting series if people get into doing things like this. But definitely one of the best memoirs I've read, think not just of this era.
Jordan's was quite good too.
NOt sure about John's 2 and has been a while since I read them.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

What about Glen Matlock’s book?

The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 June 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

xxxp kind of weird thing, in that Hynde was supposedly an advisor at some point, according to an article I read?

it did very much feel like they needed some hook to hang a second-party perspective on, and they decided to set her up as this lingering love interest/moral support for Jones's character

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

Jones seems a much more sympathetic character than Lydon, for what that's worth. And I've always been impressed that he robbed Bowie's touring gear.

calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

i thoroughly enjoyed Pistol although a big part of that was enjoying the level of detail the production design dept went to - eg the '75 Hawkwind gig Steve Jones was robbing equipment from, the interior of 'Sex', the 'Grundy' scene etc.

I think Chrissie Hynde reportedly watched and contacted Steve Jones, basically saying she was stunned how much they inflated and exaggerated both her relationship with Jones and her role in Sex Pistols lore.

i wondered about this as i had previously had no idea she had such a big role in the proceedings. i guess she didn't!

stirmonster, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

Her arse cheek is among those photographed in the Sex group photo I think.
& I know she was around trying to get bands together at the time. But yeah does seem to have had her role specific to teh Pistols increased i think.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

she did work at sex alongside jordan and was for a time an item w/jones -- who clearly holds her in much affection and says they remain (as of 2017) on good terms. he also says it's why sid attacked a subsequent hynde bf who (acc.jones) treated her badly = nick kent. so there is a kind of a beefable-uppable plot throughline

mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

the wild thing about that Lydon interview that xyzzzz__ posted is that he sounds exactly like the character in the show

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

xp definitely. Jones admitted as much saying they "showbizzed up" her role to make the show more "interesting." They were definitely a couple but for a very brief time. I won't spoil the show for anyone, but it also shows her having a big role in some significant events when she had absolutely no involvement whatsoever.

birdistheword, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

"We'll always have Huddersfield"

indeed!

calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

I'm surprised Boyle has managed to make something quite fun and watchable out of this. He even includes a scene where McLaren seals his own fate by bashing holes into some asbestos tiles, which was kind of simultaneously grim and lol!

calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

I had a brief "oh god, is that.." moment when noticing who was cast as Vivienne Westwood

yes, that is Talulah Riley who was married to Elon Musk, twice!

kind of funny that she's playing a character who's partnered with huckster and sensationalist Malcom McLaren

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

I know old John has endorsed Trump and all, and may be too much with us in other ways, but, as someone who's seen other people deal with this, and done so myself, may have to do so again, I can see he's learned some things:

John Lydon said his mental health took a beating over the last three years spent caring full-time for his 78-year-old wife.

Of his days spent feeding, dressing and caring for her, the 65-year-old admitted: “You can as a full-time carer get quite suicidal. I will have moments that are overwhelmingly sad and at the same time full of rage.

“You have to get to grips with it and lay off the self-pity. That’s one thing I can proudly say my mum and dad instilled in me from an early age: don’t feel sorry for yourself, get on with it.”

He has this advice for others caring for people with dementia: "Keep yourself intact mentally and be proud of what you’re doing. Life must continue to the absolute; you must fight for life to the very bitter end.

“This is how the cards have fallen. This is what it is. This is your future. But that’s not the end of your future."


https://www.homecare.co.uk/news/article.cfm/id/1648120/Sex-Pistols-John-Lydon-became-wifes-carer-after-dementia-made-her-forget-everything-but-me

dow, Monday, 13 June 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

Halfway through the series and enjoying it, I mean it's basically The Young Ones, but it's a lot of fun.

Only nitpicking this because it is an oddly weird and specific detail about poor Pete Ham from Badfinger having hung himself in the lock-up in Denmark Mews, pretty sure that's not correct.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

i googled that while watching that episode and fwiw the internet thinks it is correct, although it didn't specify it was the exact same lock-up.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

I find this very funny pic.twitter.com/RC2XIuBKnf

— Michael M (@michaelmphysics) June 15, 2022

Chris L, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

Got the band confused, that's the Stooges did that.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

RIP Nora Forster. John always repped for her in interviews, clearly his guiding light.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 7 April 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

“I find it ironic that people like Damien Hirst and Tracey Emin talk about punk being a major influence. To me they’re Thatcher’s children, because they were put into power by Saatchi & Saatchi.” https://t.co/eg1ERJ95E9

— A S Hamrah (@hamrahrama) August 9, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 August 2023 21:18 (eight months ago) link

lol i mean the clue is in the word dude

rip but #ffs

mark s, Friday, 11 August 2023 19:56 (eight months ago) link


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