xpost still sucks to ignore someone's larger point to establish a peanut gallery of people saying it's bad to like red house painters
― da croupier, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link
also you can't say something like this is merely self-debate and not a defense against pressure
Contemporary female writers have also denounced the man and declared an end to their fandom. But I’ve hesitated to pick up my own torch simply because I’m not ready. I’m too busy avoiding eye contact with the men I perceive to be a more real, immediate threat.
― da croupier, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link
"His music still means a lot to me" is one thing, "I guess you all don't have to worry about being assaulted!" is another.
― da croupier, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link
How can the same person who writes such heart-in-hand poetry as “Have you forgotten how to love yourself?” and “If love is like stone / Yours was mine through to my bones” be capable of spewing such despicable vitriol about women?
lol
― there was a lot of beer and people doing sit ups, (laughs) (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link
haha yeah I was scratching my head at considering those "romantic" sentiments
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
like, both lines are kind of accusatory
or resentful
guess I should sell this now
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 14 June 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link
Can I buy it for not that much?
― Evan, Monday, 15 June 2015 00:49 (eight years ago) link
sorry. tbh I could never sell it for that much because it truly is not worth that much. So I'll probably just keep it.
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 June 2015 01:54 (eight years ago) link
No worries. I imagine I'll nab one somehow someday.
― Evan, Monday, 15 June 2015 03:34 (eight years ago) link
hey I also have that
― anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Monday, 15 June 2015 05:54 (eight years ago) link
well good for YOU
― Evan, Monday, 15 June 2015 13:43 (eight years ago) link
haha
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 June 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link
the vinyl is worth something, all the RHP or SKM records on vinyl are ridiculously priced.
― akm, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link
4AD is reissuing the RHP stuff I thought. Think I heard that Songs for a Blue Guitar pressing is bad at one point?
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 June 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link
yeah the RHP stuff has been (box set sold out immediately); songs has been issued on vinyl, didn't buy it. The only stuff I have is the original Ocean Beach 10" and the Duk Koo Kim single (which is a better version than the one on the SKM album).
― akm, Monday, 15 June 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
there was that box set, but you can pre-order those albums separately or as a bundle here
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 June 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
actually the 'bundle' is not available, but it looks like they are taking individual pre-orders
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 June 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
nah, actually you can order the bundle too. it's different from the box in that the vinyl is black or something. looks like they ship in August.
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 15 June 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link
I've never really listened to Down Colorful Hill until this week (wondering if I need to get any of these reissues), and this line from Scott's review is just too otm
12 years ago Mark Kozelek was duking it out with Throwing Muses and Lisa Germano to see who could be the most miserable American act ever signed to the tears ‘n’ fears 4AD label. The lead track on RHP’s debut was all about the impossible task of becoming 24 years old. If Sun Kil Moon is essentially grown-up folk-rock music for ex-miserablists and lacks a certain unhinged recklessness that RHP had at times it’s none the worse for it.
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
I do like Throwing Muses and love Lisa Germano, however.
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
xp review of Ghosts of the Great Highway, that is
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link
"miserable" seems like a wildly offtm adjective to describe Throwing Muses tbh
― there was a lot of beer and people doing sit ups, (laughs) (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
yeah, true
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link
I'd say Down Colorful Hill sounds like Lisa Germano singing worse lyrics over slow Throwing Muses guitar, though
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link
this same Throwing Muses?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGELjc66kFs
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link
I mean I was never deep into them but yeah "miserable" was not my impression of them
oh man the swaying in that video
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link
guess she and mark share an aversion to sunlight in their lyrics, anyway
― mad maxwell's wasteland death suite (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
I was never as fond of the last few tracks, I mean they're fine but the first 3 on Down Colorful Hill is one of the best sequences ever. Really makes the album. When he shouts out "prayers" is just amazing.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link
I feel like the last few tracks were hopefuls for radio play perhaps? It was the first album after all. Had to get them out there somehow.
― Evan, Friday, 19 June 2015 02:37 (eight years ago) link
"24" had a music video but it doesn't seem to be a single.
Just listened to a bit of the early demos, wow I really need that Retrospective compilation now. I didn't realise there was completely different songs on them.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 June 2015 09:46 (eight years ago) link
https://apmike.bandcamp.com/track/michael-perry
― Three Word Username, Friday, 26 June 2015 10:05 (eight years ago) link
Saw Kozelek at Manchester's Royal Northern College of Music last night, coming from the angle of a very long term RHP/SKM fan but ground down by recent media nonsense and no real love for Benji or Universal Themes. I'd initially feared it would be SKM in name only, with Koz and his nylon string guitar alone on stage, but late billing listed Steve Shelley on drums and Neil Halstead for guitar, which perked me up. The RNCM's concert hall is a beautiful 800 seat venue, with great sound and further delight when the stage set up revealed *two* drum kits and various electric guitars. In the end, the band had two drummers throughout, a guy on Fender VI bass, Halstead on good form and Koz played electric guitar on probably 30% of songs too.
The show was, frankly, magnificent. Opened with Mariette and Hey You Bastards I'm Still Here from the last Desertshore collab, both hugely benefiting from the full band set up. Koz was in a terrific mood, humble, grateful for a "nice" audience and venue, and he played the hall's orchestral pipe organ a couple of times, which had me rubbing my eyes in disbelief. Brief reference to stuff in the press and assertion that "I'm a nice guy", but there wasn't any audience/rival/journalist baiting, just what felt like huge effort to put on a good show. They covered The Weeping Song, beautifully, in tribute to Nick Cave and his family, which left me wrung out emotionally and Koz wiping away tears. The heavier stuff from UT sounded amazing with both drummers going full tilt, and they encored with gorgeous takes on Caroline and Ceiling Gazing off Perils From the Sea.
I'd gone to this gig hoping for the best, but feeling like one of my favourite musicians of 23 years was in a deep creative and personal slump. I came out with the adrenalin buzz blazing from having seen a terrific band and artist performing out of their skins. Cumulatively, it felt like a big "fuck you" to the critics and to anyone who'd underestimate him, delivered with grace and power.
(sry for tl;dr post)
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Monday, 20 July 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link
They covered The Weeping Song, beautifully, in tribute to Nick Cave and his family
Christ, I'm getting misty just imagining that.
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 20 July 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link
sounds like a great show
― an asteroid could hit the planet (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 20 July 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link
...and yet, this tribute to Nick Cave is horrible, on a couple different levels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCiK166i0I8
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
his voice sounds so tired, so fucked up, so sad, so old. what's going on? but somehow it fits. he has never sounded happy. btw i quite like the song.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link
To me his story-teller cadence is not that compelling, feels like posturing to me.
― Evan, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link
i don't know. if that is posturing he has been posturing all his songwriter live. besides posturing is part of the business. it doesn't say anything about the quality of the music.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 21 October 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link
About to play this:
http://www.sunkilmoon.com/jesuskm.html
Slightly fearful he will be a dick.
― djh, Friday, 15 January 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link
Actually kinda digging this today ...
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 15 January 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link
It was going okay until the one with the fan letter ...
― djh, Friday, 15 January 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link
https://sunkilmoonalbum8.bandcamp.com/album/under-the-canopy
― djh, Thursday, 18 February 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link
this is extremely, extremely funny and accurate.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 19 February 2016 07:04 (eight years ago) link
haaaa
― odysseus (imago), Friday, 19 February 2016 08:47 (eight years ago) link
oh my god
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 19 February 2016 09:02 (eight years ago) link
perfect
Can't believe the SKM/Jesu album seems to be getting a decent reception, it's unlistenable, especially when you consider how amazing that collab could/would have been a decade ago.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 19 February 2016 09:06 (eight years ago) link
Unlistenable? Why?
FWIW, it’s my favorite Mark Kozelek album since April.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 19 February 2016 15:31 (eight years ago) link
lmao
― ciderpress, Friday, 19 February 2016 15:35 (eight years ago) link