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I'm a bit disappointed by the live tracks - search out their 1992 show at Sheffield Arena or Phoenix Festival in 1993 (their final show w/Jim), which should be quite easy to find online: both have better sound quality and Patton is lunatic throughout.

I'm a bit disappointed by the bonus tracks as a whole, really, most of which are previously-released B-side stuff - what ever happened to demos, out-takes, etc? Like, I would love to hear what the Real Thing songs sounded like when the band played them to Patton at his audition - I feel Warners just couldn't quite be bothered to do that level of research and just wanted to cash in on FNM as their reunion hit its peak.

That Patton-vocaled As The Worm Turns is a cracker, though.

ONE OF THEM FUCKING JESUS (stevie), Thursday, 11 June 2015 08:54 (eight years ago) link

Since the band had nothing to do with the re-releases I assume access to early demos and the like were probably not available. The label cashed in on what they had.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 11 June 2015 12:47 (eight years ago) link

I had the feeling that that was the case.

ONE OF THEM FUCKING JESUS (stevie), Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:11 (eight years ago) link

You have less than 30 hours left to watch this (if there's no IP filtering, I don't know)

http://concert.arte.tv/fr/faith-no-more-au-hellfest

Hellfest, 20/06/2015

Motherfucker
Be Aggressive
Caffeine
Evidence
Epic
Black Friday
Everything's Ruined
Midlife Crisis (incl. Boz Scaggs "Lowdown" breakdown)
The Gentle Art of Making Enemies
Easy (Commodores cover)
Separation Anxiety
Cuckoo for Caca
Matador
Ashes to Ashes
Superhero

Cone of Shame
We Care a Lot
This Guy's in Love With You (Burt Bacharach cover)

StanM, Monday, 22 June 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

thanks!

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link

the opening of Be Aggressive raised the hair on my neck

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

oh, they've changed the date - it'll now be online until Dec 24th

StanM, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

separation anxiety particularly amazing imo

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

oh cool. that one's one of my favs from the newie

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 30 July 2015 12:06 (eight years ago) link

seeing them tonight with...REfused!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 30 July 2015 12:07 (eight years ago) link

They're being supported by Napalm Death on some dates!

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 30 July 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link

oh wow...that would be killer

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 30 July 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

Mike could guest on You Suffer!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 30 July 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

BRUSH WITH FAME, Faith No More edition: A friend and I went to the Ted Leo show in Cleveland (for the 25th anniversary of local venue the Grog Shop). While we were there we ran into a woman we know who works at the restaurant in our office building, and she introduced us to her boyfriend of three decades, who happens to be Chuck Mosley. He was really cool, hung around and chatted with us for a while after the show. He also got on stage with one of the opening bands, Falling Stars, and sang "Every Day Is Like Sunday."

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

Thats awesome!

how's life, Monday, 25 September 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

wow!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

chaki just played a show with Mosley! I didn't make it though as I was out of town.

akm, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link

Ah, that is pretty neat!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 25 September 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

yah he was the coolest

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 25 September 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Mosley apparently passed away yesterday?? wtf RIP

MaresNest, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

The Mosley family statement reads:

After a long period of sobriety, Charles Henry Mosley III lost his life, on November 9th, 2017, due to the disease of addiction. We’re sharing the manner in which he passed, in the hopes that it might serve as a warning or wake up call or beacon to anyone else struggling to fight for sobriety. He is survived by long-term partner Pip Logan, two daughters, Erica and Sophie and his grandson Wolfgang Logan Mosley. The family will be accepting donations for funeral expenses. Details to follow when arranged.

MaresNest, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link

;_; very sad news indeed

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 November 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link

Saw this version of the band in '87. They were fun, a little dorky, but in a good way. Opened for Red Hot Chili Peppers w/ Hillel Slovak. Disappointing news.

Josefa, Saturday, 11 November 2017 07:58 (six years ago) link

Awww fuck. RIP.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:07 (six years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Bill Gould seems like a great guy and this film sounds really interesting
https://www.kerrang.com/features/district-unknown-rockabul-faith-no-more-bill-gould-interview/

Neil S, Friday, 2 November 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

touring with Korn and Helmet(!!)

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link

WTF I don't want to deal with Korn or see this at the shoreline ampitheater and also we don't get Helmet in the bay area so fuck this tour.

akm, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

The best thing about this band was it felt like 5 guys who all wanted to be in different bands

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 04:10 (one year ago) link

i love that they existed

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 04:18 (one year ago) link

Me too

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 04:19 (one year ago) link

like the math of how you get Roddy, Patton & Jim in the same band is insane, let alone Mike & Bill

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 February 2023 04:33 (one year ago) link

The best thing about this band was it felt like 5 guys who all wanted to be in different bands

ha, great way of putting it. I recently did a relisten of their 90s albums and the friction is definitely what makes them interesting to listen to

Vinnie, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 04:34 (one year ago) link

Watching old videos and thinking about that ums post:

In "Epic" and ESPECIALLY "We Care A Lot," you can see obviously that Billy/Roddy/Mike/Chuck are all total hams — Puff less so, but definitely "game." And throughout there's Jim, who just seems stoic and stubborn and like he never wants to play along, but that becomes its own kind of "straight man" routine that's funnier than the 3 or 4 wacky guys surrounding him. Just an insane dynamic, total inversion of the Limp Bizkit/Killswitch Engage/Rammstein trope of the One Wacky Guy by having a band of four Ernies and a Bert

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 3 February 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link

untapped band name right there btw

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link

Man, Four Ernies and a Bert really nails it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 February 2023 22:52 (one year ago) link

Still love when I saw them in 15, they performed in all white dress outfits, and there were massive amounts of flowers on the stage.

And stagehands periodically kept bringing more, and more, a ridiculous amount of flowers at the front of the stage.

It was like an I Love Lucy bit. Great humorous way to set up the show

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link

Also literally the only Angel Dust song I didn't get that I wanted was Kindergarten but could not complain

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link

Caffeine was massive

sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:57 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

This is my favourite band I only really know one album well by. And that album is King For A Day, which I've loved since I was a teenager.
I mean, yeah, I have heard other stuff of course - I have a memory of borrowing The Real Thing from the library back in the day, and I'm sure I've heard Angel Dust a bunch of times at people's houses.
But I know very little of the pre-Patton material. I can't believe I'm only digging into it now. Not sure I agree with people who prefer the Chuck Mosley era - I wouldn't call him an amazing singer. But 'R'n'R' off Introduce Yourself is FANTASTIC.

Gonna work my way through their catalogue this week.

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Monday, 18 September 2023 14:25 (seven months ago) link

I love the Chuck Mosley era. I think he was a unique frontman and poetic voice. The Introduce Yourself and Real Thing eras of FNM overlap stylistically, since it was mostly written while Chuck was still in the band. See here this early version of The Morning After with different vocals and lyrics by Chuck. Those two albums are my favorite, with a nod to King For A Day, Fool For a Lifetime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_ND0ECI5-0

A few weeks ago, I watched Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey and fell in love with Perfect Crime again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yxCsKtBjdU

peace, man, Monday, 18 September 2023 15:58 (seven months ago) link

Not having Angel Dust and being a FNM fan is like being a Beatles fan and not knowing Revolver...get on it! It is their towering career highlight, IMO.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 18 September 2023 19:23 (seven months ago) link

Angel dust is legit one of the best 90s albums, not just a good FNM album.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 14:26 (seven months ago) link

I'm sure I've heard Angel Dust a bunch of times at people's houses.

weird flex but ok......

whenever I hear the rap bridge of Welcome to my Island by Caroline Polachek. I get massive Chuck Mosley vibes.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 15:54 (seven months ago) link

lol I think someone would know if they heard "Angel Dust." Background music it ain't.

Weirdly, Faith No More is one of a handful of acts my wife and I seem to enjoy equally, but tbh I don't think I've ever heard much of the early stuff (aside from "We Care A Lot"). And another confession is that I've never been able to get into "King for a Day." Dunno why, maybe fewer hooks? Maybe I'll give it another shot today.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:29 (seven months ago) link

King For A Day is a bit gruelling tbh, though I love Ugly In The Morning and Cuckoo For Caca.

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:38 (seven months ago) link

I can't really get into anything after Angel Dust. they are fine and I've listened to them but they never stick with me.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:39 (seven months ago) link

The first two FNM albums are great, though tbh I prefer Patton's live versions of As The Worm Turns and Mark Bowen.

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:39 (seven months ago) link

Listening to "King" now and it's objectively good, or at least not bad, but it's missing something, imo. Sounds kind of conventional, relatively speaking. But then, anything would sound conventional after "Angel Dust."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:48 (seven months ago) link

Trey's guitar is pretty grey compared to Big Sick Jim Martin's work. When I interviewed them a few years back, Roddy was pretty explicit that his heroin addiction, exacerbated by his friend Kurt Cobain's death, meant he was pretty much checked out for this one.

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:51 (seven months ago) link


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