caught most of Dark Passage - not particularly great (well, Bacall is great) mostly caught my eye cuz of the local landscape
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link
man, high sierra is so fucking good.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link
i'm sick so I didn't get around to posting the schedule last night.just realizing Detour is on now - i'll have to watch that on demand
Gun Crazy is the only one I've seen today, and I love it. Peggy Cummins is fantastic
― Nhex, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
Taping everything here:
FRIDAY, JUNE 126:00 AM THE GLASS KEY (1942)7:30 AM LAURA (1944)9:00 AM MINISTRY OF FEAR (1944)10:30 AM MURDER, MY SWEET (1944)12:15 PM DANGER SIGNAL (1945)1:45 PM DETOUR (1945)3:00 PM MILDRED PIERCE (1945)5:00 PM DEADLINE AT DAWN (1946)6:30 PM JOHNNY ANGEL (1946)8:00 PM THE GANGSTER (1947)9:45 PM GUN CRAZY (1950)11:30 PM TOMORROW IS ANOTHER DAY (1951)1:15 AM NIGHTMARE ALLEY (1947)3:30 AM NIGHT MOVES (1975)
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 June 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah, Ministry of Fear is pretty enjoyable too. unusually light for Fritz Lang.Laura's a goddamn classic
― Nhex, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link
Glass Key is slept on.
― Never Mind The Blecchs, Here's The James Redd Orche (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 June 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link
mm been meaning to see Gun Crazy forever
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
I recorded Ministry of Fear for later, and watched Murder, My Sweet while I waited for work clients to get off their asses.
― WilliamC, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
i was a big Dashiell hammett fan as a kid; never seen Glass Key but it's basically the same plot as yojimbo, right?this looks like a pretty great lineup for this week.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 June 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link
You're thinking of Red Harvest ... the film that most resembles The Glass Key is probably Miller's Crossing.
― Brad C., Friday, 12 June 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link
right, right: my bad.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 June 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link
I wish they'd included Killer's Kiss in this -- I'd like to see it again.
― WilliamC, Friday, 12 June 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link
Has Scarlet Street run this year? So sick. See it with a nurse.
― dow, Friday, 12 June 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link
http://i.cdn.turner.com/v5cache/TCM/2015/summerofdarkness/TCM_SummerOfDarkness_Schedule2015.pdf
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 June 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link
I'm still shaking my head at TCM giving us a damn PDF
― Nhex, Saturday, 13 June 2015 05:31 (eight years ago) link
Alright, who watched xpost Nightmare Alley? I saw most of it, but was very sleepy---and passed out for a while, having a dream about the characters which I can *almost* remember, through a translucent, yet blurry and unshakable carny tent flap--- a few questions: What was the business with the bottles? Wiki says Stan accidently gave Pete the bottle of wood alcohol, rather than the moonshine he, Stan, had just purchased (atypically enough, according to the seller's comments). But Zeena says she kept it in her trunk, which Stan does have access to, since it sits unlocked, in an open area: we see him doing some kind of switcheroo *after* Pete's fatal imbibing. I thought, initially, that Pete helped himself to the easily available wood alchohol, after finishing the moonshine, but there seems to be some shine left? Anyway, something about Stan being the cunning sort re the code, but kinda slipping into self-monitor darkness re psychopathic detailing, how to get from point A to the main goal, acquiring the code. And this foreshadows the way he finds his way toward the biggest pay-off of all (also lured by the evil shrink, who may not have a clear idea of why she tests Stanton The Great at first; they find each other). But does he also come to believe that he has a real degree of psychic power, despite the element of deceit, and that the latter is a means to a benevolent, healing end? Is that right? Or is he just pretty much aware of bullshitting Molly, and the goal is not money for the church, and the church for psychic healing, but just for the Big Score? (Also, what is the deal with Molly and Bruno? He seems like a jealous father-boyfriend figure, and "You gotta marry her now," when Stan and Molly have just been hanging out--suppose the book made it seem like they'd been doing more than that--anybody read the book? Gotta find that.)
― dow, Saturday, 13 June 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link
So I get that Stan is the unstable product of the system, the orphanages and all, at least according to him, and that his smarts and drive can veer off course, but I just couldn't quite track his course (shoulda grabbed a coffee).
― dow, Saturday, 13 June 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
I saw NA again a few months ago, and the short answer, i think, is "a little of all that."
The book is apparently a lot more raw and fetid, no surprise there.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 June 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
Nightmare Alley
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 June 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link
Thanks---just realized I have the book, in this Library of America omnibus:Crime Novels: American Noir of the 1930s and 40sThe Postman Always Rings Twice • They Shoot Horses, Don't They? • Thieves Like Us • The Big Clock •Nightmare Alley • I Married a Dead Mannotes etc.: http://www.loa.org/volume.jsp?RequestID=1#sthash.etEUDNMd.dpuf
― dow, Saturday, 13 June 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link
detour and glass key last night.
Detour was a muddy print with iffy sound but what a humdinger! Darker than a german chocolate cake and grittier than a mississippi dirt road. Only an hour but packed with sharp turns, great camera work and the battiest, angriest, hottest dame you'll ever see in Ann Savage. Two weeks of filming!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFXQqEoNofA
Glass Key was spectacular, probably even better. Clearly the antecedent of Miller's Crossing, good call pointing that out. Veronica Lake is an angel straight from heaven, Alan Ladd is an excellent tough guy and Bendix is the meanest, most sadistic, vaguely homoerotic heavy you're likely to find.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 June 2015 02:07 (eight years ago) link
Well Miller's Crossing is obv based on the Glass Key. I vaguely remember also bits from the Dain Curse? Meanwhile Yojimbo, and then A Fistful Of Dollars, and Walter Hill's Last Man Standing also basically pull from elements of the Glass Key.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 14 June 2015 05:53 (eight years ago) link
precedent, not antecedent duh
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 June 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link
Isn't most of that stuff traced back to some old Italian play called "He Serves Two Masters"?
― Never Mind The Blecchs, Here's The James Redd Orche (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 June 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link
i wouldn't know but it certainly smacks of commedia archetype
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 June 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
Not so much for plot, but for tone and feel, if you're looking for something else with a possible influence on the Coens, I highly recommend On Dangerous Ground which is coming up later in the summer.
― Nhex, Sunday, 14 June 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
Goldoni was the playwright's name
― Now Sleeps The Redd Petal, Now The Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 June 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link
Just realized TCM did put up a non-PDF version of the schedule:http://summerofdarkness.tcm.com/#/schedule
― Nhex, Sunday, 14 June 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
courtesy of the Nitrate Diva---Australian poster:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHe2QMfUkAEmSLD.jpg
― dow, Sunday, 14 June 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
Nightmare Alley was spectacular; unsurprised to note that the off-brand upswing at the very end was entirely studio created and forced on. Would love to double feature this with Freaks someday.many xxps to Dow: The film presents it as Stan giving Pete the bottle of wood alcohol accidentally and believed (reasonably, as he took a slug himself and thought it was garbage) that he gave him the moonshine. So it's accidental but predestined as per the tarot reading of earlier... he didn't mean to kill him, but with this film's dark ethos, you can argue he was an instrument perhaps more willing than not to allow fate to flow through.as per the "does he really buy this shit" question; he does seem to believe he's fully justified in his actions. he's certainly working hard to give himself the patina of good intentions but there's a cold subconscious plotting right under the surface.i LOVED the scene with Molly and Bruno, old carny hands who've seen this act played out before, immediately recognizing, digesting and cynically moving forward with the necessary ends. no discussion, no chance for apology but a definite presumption that they must already be fucking since they're young, we're old and washed up so let's push em to be honest moral kids. which they're not! but there's presumption of circus code of ethics there.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 June 2015 00:17 (eight years ago) link
Thanks, forks! Yeah, early on, he says something like "I'm strange, I can't think about anybody but myself," and the way he tells it, he was dumped in a bad orphanage by his parents; he knows he doesn't fit in anyhwere, but he's eager to claw his way into some safe place, where he can eat his fill, finally. But he gets that other people seem to fit in society, and he wants to justify what he does, be an acceptable minister, with his own church of psychic healing---success in show biz, where he must know or sense that most people get that he's got some kind of gimmick---that kind of acceptance just isn't enough. So yeah I guess the con is conning himself, which may even be necessary, up to a point, but it's like the chef or chemist partaking too much of his own product. He isn't prepared for the consequences of his drive and magnetism---casting the star Tyrone Power, watching him go too far and melt down, might've been too disturbing for audiences seeking the new normal, in the aftermath of WWII; it's fairly disquieting even now.Tonight, after the epic overdrive of Greed, a couple of Japanese thrillers I hadn't heard of, Zero Focus and Castle of Sand. I've found a few promising descriptions---anybody seem 'em?
― dow, Monday, 15 June 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link
I've seen Zero Focus, thought it was really good. I have Greed and Castle of Sand set to record.
― WilliamC, Monday, 15 June 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link
this is the studio cut of greed, right? taping nonetheless as i never saw it.
i agree with your assessment there dow; part of the noir sensibility is that we all THINK we can figure out where we're supposed to fit in but there's no hope for mugs like us.Power is wonderful in Nightmare alley i thought; totally believable and enmeshed in the character.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 June 2015 02:44 (eight years ago) link
omg I've never seen "Greed"! :D
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 15 June 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link
TCM is doing an insect monster marathon on June 18 with The Fly, Mothra, Them, The Wasp Woman, The Swarm and The Cosmic Monsterhttp://www.tcm.com/this-month/article/1096952%7C1096953/Bugging-Out.html
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 June 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link
insect monsters? Almost too-excellent summer-appropriate programming. What did yall think of Greed?!
― dow, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link
watched Born to Kill last night... such a by the numbers story that it's hard to recommend but some intentionally shibboleth-crying plot points (lots of "i'm getting married but we can still fuck" threads seem out of place for the late forties) keep it lively, plus good direction and some amazing acting. Lawrence Tierney in particularly believable as a sociopathic heavy; that guy is hard boiled.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
Tierney was the real deal.
Wish TCM wasn't a subscription only channel here in Jersey City (Verizon).
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link
I enjoyed Zero Focus quite a bit ... slow-paced but twisty and dreadful throughout, lots of dark black-and-white cinematography of long train rides from Tokyo to the desolate north. The plot hangs on elements that could only work in the Japan of that time: an arranged marriage, 'war orphan' ex-prostitutes, the way that family and police attitudes toward suicide create opportunities for deception and murder.
As far as I can tell, no one has a clue what the title means.
― Brad C., Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link
Boy that Ann Savage performance in Detour is something else!
― Nhex, Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:00 (eight years ago) link
Right? Just A+ hot crazy.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:32 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1OM5-kGeDo
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:36 (eight years ago) link
Schedule for tomorrow:
Friday, June 196:00 AM CORNERED (1945)7:45 AM CRACK-UP (1946)9:30 AM GILDA (1946)11:30 AM THE BIG SLEEP (1946)1:30 PM THE KILLERS (1946)3:15 PM NOBODY LIVES FOREVER (1946)5:00 PM NOCTURNE (1946)6:30 PM CROSSFIRE (1947)8:00 PM HOLLOW TRIUMPH (1948)9:45 PM MYSTERY STREET (1950)11:30 PM BORDER INCIDENT (1949)1:15 AM THE PEOPLE AGAINST O'HARA (1951)3:15 AM GET CARTER (1971)
Big Sleep the obvious classic
― Nhex, Thursday, 18 June 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link
Get Carter is spectacular if you've never seen it; looking forward to gilda and taping it allwatched most of danger signal last night; it's an odd relationship anxiety film but it wasn't killing me
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
i watched crossfire in a jewish identity in film class in undergrad. decent noir starring Robert Mitchum that came out the same year as Gentleman's Agreement.
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 June 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
The novel was about a homophobic murder, so they had to cahnge it to antisemitism.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 June 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link
films about antisemitism in 1947 were still fairly controversial themselves
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 June 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
In another sign of the times, films about Catholic priests in 1947 were very uncontroversial.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 June 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
yes that is true Mordy, but antigay themes were literally unfilmable since the Production Code was raised against Franklin Pangborn.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
Still kind of cheesed off that Thief was removed from tonight's 3:15 slot.
― it's not arugula science (WilliamC), Saturday, 20 June 2015 01:51 (eight years ago) link