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millennials idk

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link

Tee he. This is a great cosmic joke.

Hinklepicker, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 07:58 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, it's like ironic innit?
A 2nd punchline to calling the reunion tour Filthy Lucre.
& I think they were saying at the time or at least towards the end of it that the only notes that really count are the ones that come in wads. & now almost 40 years later there's more focus on electronic financial exchange so this is somewhat logical.

But yeah they were pretty formidable when they had Glen Matlock onboard early on

Stevolende, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 09:44 (eight years ago) link

I think they were saying at the time or at least towards the end of it that the only notes that really count are the ones that come in wads.

That particular song was written and recorded about 18 months after Lydon had quit, a year after the first PiL record, and a few months after Sid Vicious was in his grave. It's part of the McLaren/Temple/Jones/Cook retrospective self-glorification cash-in that Lydon despises. I don't know anything about the Visa cards or why they are made but they seem to be on that continuum, rather than reflecting anything to do with the original band. Of course, that is part of their story too so who cares really?

everything, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

Lydon has uh historically been a-ok w self-glorifying cash-ins.

and he's usually snarkily up-front about it! Insisting on calling PiL a corporation and not a band etc.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

Someone on Twitter came up with the perfect slogan: "You don't know what you want but you know how to get it: the Sex Pistols Virgin MasterCard."

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link

haha stealing that

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in... what's in your wallet?

brimstead, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

Anarchy In The AMEX

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

NOW I GOT A VISA

NOW I GOT A VISA

NOW I GOT A VISA

AND I'M STILL BUYING

sleeve, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link

NO INTEREST
NO INTEREST
NO INTEREST
BECAUSE OF MY WEALTH
MY BEAUTIFUL WEALTHY!!!

Mark G, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

this thread is turning into a cheap holiday in other people's usury

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link

maybe unfair

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150611/t2nbuwlz.png

meisenfek, Thursday, 11 June 2015 00:00 (eight years ago) link

Let's face it: in the long run, punk rock has really failed at most of which it apparently set out to do, didn't it?

didn't *hasn't

oh i dunno.

hongro strulkington (dog latin), Thursday, 11 June 2015 11:17 (eight years ago) link

What did it apparently set out to do?

Willibald Pirckheimers Briefwechsel (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 June 2015 11:32 (eight years ago) link

It set out to destroy the passer-by

Mark G, Thursday, 11 June 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link

well in that it succeeded. or did it? have your say in the comments

Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Thursday, 11 June 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link

when the kids fly United, the airfares will be divided.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

p much every musical movement "fails" at achieving non-musical goals

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link

What kind of weirdo would get one of those cards

― JRN, Tuesday, June 9, 201

Urban Outfitter shoppers.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

the monarchy still endures, but maybe it wasn't sarcasm and he really did mean it, man.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 11 June 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

he never did get to go over the berlin wall, never understood that bit at all

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 11 June 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

No "Your future dream is a shopping scheme" jokes no cred

0/10

F-

No stars

Hell Books (latebloomer), Thursday, 11 June 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

i started thinking about making an 'is this the APR?' joke but

irl friend of the geir (NickB), Thursday, 11 June 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

"I've got a card machine ready for you, baybeh"

OK, no more..

Mark G, Friday, 12 June 2015 09:53 (eight years ago) link

Oh Sex Pistols, they're like my favourite brand of t-shirt. They do a visa card? Booooring. I pay for everything with my weird mobile phone chip these days.

Or

40-60-something old punks who now wear ties to work.

Or

Who knows?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 June 2015 11:49 (eight years ago) link

For me the most important thing that punk did was open up possibilities of making music, expression etc... for a greater number of people. In this sense it.completely succeeded.

Hinklepicker, Friday, 12 June 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link

eleven months pass...

New vinyl boxset of 1976 concerts:
4th June – 1976: Lesser Free Trade Hall, Manchester
29th August – 1976: Screen on the Green, Islington
17th September 1976: HM Prison, Chelmsford
25th September – 1976: 76 Club, Burton on Trent

Probably no band ever been so well documented live (except Grateful Dead obv) so for diehards only I guess. First two mostly for historical documentation purposes. Chelmsford recording is great quality - the best recording of the Matlock era, and I don't think has been officially released with all it's tracks in the right order and without overdubs (but probably has), so that's good.

everything, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

The 4cd box is £30, which seems steep..

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

Oh, didn't notice it was on CD. That's better. But yeah, silly price for CDs considering everyone who's likely to care has already heard it all before.

everything, Thursday, 9 June 2016 00:31 (seven years ago) link

The other day I heard Did You No Wrong for the first time, they played it on satellite radio. I had no idea it even existed. What a fantastic song.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 9 June 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link

Yes, its a not of a lost b-side. Also "Sattelite" which didn't even make it to the "Flogging a dead horse" singles album for some reason.

Mark G, Thursday, 9 June 2016 06:38 (seven years ago) link

Yes, it's a bit of a lost etc.

Mark G, Thursday, 9 June 2016 06:39 (seven years ago) link

it's always bugged me that it's so hard to come by the handful of "real" sex pistols tracks that aren't on NMTB (i.e., sung by lydon, studio-recorded): "i wanna be me," "satellite," "no fun," "did you no wrong." those are fantastic performances that should've been tacked onto the one real album at some point as bonus tracks, not scattered across a bunch of crummy ripoff albums among those shitty ronnie biggs singles and malcolm mclaren spoken word tracks or whatever.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:17 (seven years ago) link

Those are all on Kiss This

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:28 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, main reason for investing in it.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 08:35 (seven years ago) link

It also has the entire NMTB on it, so it's the only Sex Pistols I own.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 09:01 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

Glen Matlock at tail end of a tour? Could be a good idea for next Friday night at the Phoenix Artists Club in London?

https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/event/EIKEEJ

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG7N9pFGqHM

MaresNest, Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Comment from six months ago says Steve Jones had a heart attack.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMoJs2JSH9I

Stevolende, Sunday, 2 August 2020 07:55 (three years ago) link

Jones has been recovering, though it required emergency surgery and like any heart attack survivor, he's had to make some adjustments. Interview where he discusses life after his heart attack.

birdistheword, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Kinda sad re: his wife but also Lydon is sorta too online, for the worst.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/13/john-lydon-sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-danny-boyle-the-queen

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 June 2022 10:29 (one year ago) link

Skimmed quickly. Nothing other than what I’ve come to expect.

The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 June 2022 11:15 (one year ago) link

did anyone watch Pistol yet?

stirmonster, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

about halfway through. Watchable if you're not like totally hung up on historical accuracy and all like that.
I think I need to read the source book but have half wanted to for a while.
It's ok I guess, one of several things i'm trying to watch so not getting overly prioritised.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

Shush! No spoilers please!

Jimmy Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne Mary-Anne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

after all, it was you and me

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 16 June 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

double-decker bus

Creature Catcher (Live) (morrisp), Thursday, 16 June 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

Started watching

Jimmy Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne Mary-Anne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

i am only couple eps in and it is the dumbest fun I have had in a while

like veracity & timelines are loose to nonexistent but the ~vibes~ are v good idk i am enjoying it more than i expected

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 June 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link

Xp did think the same re Disney logo. Then thought well they own everything now don't they. Or something to that effect.

Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.

But it is watchable.

& Young Ones had just been mentioned so yeah made that connection too.

Was this filmed in Cardiff or just being promoted there? There's a sign towards the beginning.

Stevolende, Thursday, 16 June 2022 04:18 (one year ago) link

Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.

The Pistols are all Disney Princes now.

The amount of cgi alteration of the period streetscapes is kinda mind-boggling too.

They used one of my favourite little buildings in London as Glitterbest's offices (Elms Lesters Painting Rooms) but they changed the frontage and made it look even grottier - it's already in a little narrow back passage -

Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 June 2022 09:47 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

predictably

Rest in Peace Queen Elizabeth II.

Send her victorious.

From all at https://t.co/vK2Du0ZzDS pic.twitter.com/kq4M6WfeML

— John Lydon Official (@lydonofficial) September 9, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 10 September 2022 08:54 (one year ago) link

ever get the etc

Left, Saturday, 10 September 2022 10:59 (one year ago) link

trying to parse out why this is still vaguely bothersome to me since it's totally unsurprising and afaict even at the time all but the most naive (proto-anarcho-punks on one side and i assume some outraged tories on the other) always knew from the start that their bit was all provocation with no follow through

some sense that this kind of provocation has either been fully incorporated or is now totally beyond the pale, depending on who it's from and what it's about? or just romantic nostalgia for some third hand mythology i absorbed about punk and how radical it was? since it was made clear to me that no other cultural moment could ever measure up to it. and this is what it amounts to?

Left, Saturday, 10 September 2022 11:26 (one year ago) link

"fascism is so cool and edgy"

Johnny Rotten of The Sex Pistols pic.twitter.com/u8v8KFUn7N

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 4, 2022

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 10 September 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

give a middle finger to the establishment by wanking over her maj

nm I know I lose this game by even responding

at least I don't have to hear people who know better defending "bodies" these days

Left, Saturday, 10 September 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

PIL's Facebook post:

God Save The Queen

John Lydon wishes to distance himself from any Sex Pistols activity which aims to cash in on Queen Elizabeth II's death. The musicians in the band and their management have approved a number of requests against John's wishes on the basis of the majority court-ruling agreement.

In John's view, the timing for endorsing any Sex Pistols requests for commercial gain in connection with 'God Save The Queen' in particular is tasteless and disrespectful to the Queen and her family at this moment in time.

John wrote the lyrics to this historical song, and while he has never supported the monarchy, he feels that the family deserves some respect in this difficult time, as would be expected for any other person or family when someone close to them has died.

birdistheword, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

RIP Nora Forster. John always repped for her in interviews, clearly his guiding light.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 7 April 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

“I find it ironic that people like Damien Hirst and Tracey Emin talk about punk being a major influence. To me they’re Thatcher’s children, because they were put into power by Saatchi & Saatchi.” https://t.co/eg1ERJ95E9

— A S Hamrah (@hamrahrama) August 9, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 10 August 2023 21:18 (eight months ago) link

lol i mean the clue is in the word dude

rip but #ffs

mark s, Friday, 11 August 2023 19:56 (eight months ago) link

eight months pass...

Late to this - had no idea this show had been unearthed. Not an official release, unfortunately mixed on the fly (thus imbalanced) but a great performance nonetheless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iefy37rMe8o

birdistheword, Thursday, 25 April 2024 05:17 (one week ago) link

I wish I could hear "Anarchy in the U.K." again for the first time. They, and it, seem so distant--more than many famous songs that are even older.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 April 2024 05:29 (one week ago) link

Yes. That Pistols miniseries wasn't going to be good, but I was surprised at how it couldn't even find a context to seem relevant. I think I watched one and a half episodes. How Chrissy Hynde ended up working at Sex seemed like a more intriguing storyline.

sox concrète (bendy), Monday, 29 April 2024 16:24 (one week ago) link

I'm not really a fan of Danny Boyle's work - more often than not, his films are terrible, and I didn't get the impression from anyone who saw the show that he exceeded even the most modest expectations. I can't remember if it was Jones or Matlock, but one of them apparently talked with Hynde over the phone after every episode and they were both flabbergasted how the show's depiction of her role in the band's history was drastically overblown and close to complete fiction.

birdistheword, Monday, 29 April 2024 19:30 (one week ago) link

Ha!

It’s not like their songs are even completely topical, yet they do feel like they’ve served their purpose.

sox concrète (bendy), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 01:00 (one week ago) link


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