New Burial album. More info?

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do you rate this mix, tim? it's one of my favorites for sure.

tricky, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 23:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I've never been able to find it! Based on the tracklisting it looks great, yeah.

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

ok now i know what to put in the post! i can't believe it's only got two votes at discogs and that it rates a 3/5. that's WTF material right there.

tricky, Thursday, 29 November 2007 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link

how about this DJ EZ release?

http://www.discogs.com/release/111348

dodgy cover and all! it's been hanging around in my local shop for a while now - and it's only a fiver.

sam500, Thursday, 29 November 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

"how about this DJ EZ release?

http://www.discogs.com/release/111348

dodgy cover and all! it's been hanging around in my local shop for a while now - and it's only a fiver.

-- sam500"

can't vouch for that one, but EZ was kinda the man for a while. it was a live mix of his that really got me started in 2-step, he dropped classic after classic. his intro on that mix was silly, it got rewound 3 times, and it deserved it. every single time a new element would come in, the crowd went ballistic.

pipecock, Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

"but EZ was kinda the man for a while"

yeah, i remember hearing one of his guest mixes on Kiss FM years ago and it was right on the money. wish i'd taped it now.

sam500, Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:58 (sixteen years ago) link

That EZ mix is worth picking up if only for Artful Dodger's astonishing and hard to find remix of Valerie M's "Tingles", perhaps the most unabashedly beautiful 2-step ever got.

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2007 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link

no idea how this enters into whatever tf was being discussed but the shanks and bigfoot aiya napa mix tim's recommended before i come back to constantly

deej, Thursday, 29 November 2007 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Tim F - Cheers for the feedback. It's been sitting there for months so fingers crosssed it hasn't been sold yet.

sam500, Thursday, 29 November 2007 02:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually i think it is relevant deej. Critical orthodoxy would dismiss out of hand the possibility of Shanks & Bigfoot making one of the greatest 2-step mixes ever. Again, the temptation people succumb to is to over-stratify the scene so that you've got, say, Shanks & Bigfoot and Artful Dodger being irredeemably pop, Zed Bias being "underground", Dreem Teem repping for soulful conservatism. In reality it was so much more mixed up than that - e.g. Dreem Teem were the masters of brutal metallic basslines (see their remix of Neneh Cherry's "Buddy X", or Dionne Rakeem's "Sweeter Than Wine"), while Zed Bias totally had this very warm, old-fashioned soulful vibe stretching through his work (and ultimately culminating in the Maddslinky album, which is like a 2-step/broken beats crossover attempt).

Anyways, I love the way that mix touches on pretty much everything that was going on at the time, and it has some amazing tracks I've never seen/heard elsewhere (like, how improbably great is the S&B remix of Kavana's "Will You Wait For Me"?!?)

Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2007 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Groove Connektion 2 - Club Lonely (Dem 2 Don't Cry Dub).mp3

YES YES YES

i'll try to return the favour and direct you to this page, where you can download Signal To One's lovely 4x4 rmx of Teedra Moses' "You'll Never Find".

and i'll throw in one of my NH favourites - a relatively straightforward production, but love the luscious nocturnal groove going on:

Tuff Jam - Experience (New Horizons Dub)

(now, if only someone had Dem 2's "Desire 99"...)

Mind Taker, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Amira - My Desire (Dreem Team Remix).mp3

-- Tim F, Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

this is fantastic

deej, Thursday, 29 November 2007 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^werd...

...and that teedra moses tune is fucking sweet too

pollywog, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Another one of my abolute faves, the rhythmic programming on this is insane, but it's also a great pop song:

David Howard - U & I.mp3

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Bumping so that you're all reminded to download this track. it really is one of the best things ever.

Tim F, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

It is true, this is a sick tune! Many thanks again for all the gifts. I have been bumping the New Horizons remixes of It's My House and Spend The Night so much, love them. First time I've heard New Horizons that has really connected with me to be honest, but I had heard very little previously. Any other recommendations?

And the Anytime mix is ridiculous. Such a sinister vibe... "im gonna give you love"... the way they make that horn riff take that mood! Then fade out to the sound of locked-groove orgasmic artifice :/ grim

I had a look for that United Vibes 4x4 mix at home and can't find it, only have it on my ipod now, apologies

Benjamin, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THE FIRST SAMPLE?

"i show you light. it burns forever"

^^ from DAVID LYNCH'S INLAND EMPIRE

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 7 December 2007 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah i noticed. i think jed commented about it upthread as well. it's a fitting opener to this strange album.

tricky, Friday, 7 December 2007 03:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Praise from Luc Sante in Salon today:

http://www.salon.com/books/awards/2007/12/13/book_week_picks/index1.html

. . . "Untrue" by Burial. Shards of dance-hall music stretched and twisted until it sounds like a heap of ruins, but shot through with elegiac shafts of light. I hear jungle in this, of course, as well as, weirdly, a vein of English classical music, from Purcell to Vaughn Williams.

three handclaps, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

i like this album. but i don't know much about techno music. i think people like it because there's always something sort of melancholy about a certain kind dance songs. like "what is love" by haddaway always seemed sad to me. lots of those eurodisco songs that are on the late night comps seems sad. this is like that except more mysterious sounding.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link

probably because it's made up of fucked up samples of such sad eurodisco

sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

i believe you...that makes sense.... i don't even really know what eurodisco is, i've only seen in mentioned on ilm...i mean i think i know it when i hear it, like "music hall" even though i've never actually heard music hall music.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

All Saints and Ray J =/ Eurodisco.

xpost. This ain't techno Matt!

jim, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Archangel is probably my favourite track of last year. The rest of the album relies on a similar formula too much, with much less success.

chap, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Etched Headplate and Raver are also pretty good, though.

chap, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't even know what techno is : (

i call everything that's vaguely sample based or electronic that's not hip hop "techno", i guess i'm probably like some guy in the 60s calling hippies beatniks or whatever

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

It's a fairly common US thing to class all electronic music as 'techno', I've noticed.

chap, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

US heads care less about genre, true

sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i think all the genres actually keep me from checking more stuff out, it's too confusing and i always feel lame for not knowing what all the nomenclature means, so i just don't even bother. it's the same reason i never bought a fall record for years, there were too many and they all had weird names and artwork and it was too imposing.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

It's that wya on purpose. It's much easier if you classify everthying as house music.

sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Beethoven is house?

jim, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

oh definitely

sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

if this is your house then yes

http://www.jcraus.com.au/images/Germany1.jpg

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.djouls.com/scape/images/Pole-Steingarten_b.jpg

sexyDancer, Monday, 14 January 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I've made a seven track edit which is much more listenable than the whole album:

1. Archangel
2. Near Dark
3. Endorphin
4. Etched Headplate
5. Shell of Light
6. UK
7. Raver

chap, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

still think this is quite overrated. would rather listen to say the ukg remix of roy davis jnrs gabriel for haunting garage elegies.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

nice to have something not so christianized tho

blueski, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

first album was rightly praised to the skies. this one though, just seems like partly half hearted retread of the first one, unsuccessfully trying to take it somewhere new, and trying to make 'proper' garage but not really making the transition complete and just sitting awkwardly in between. i found the vocals in particular really pretty bad.

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

for mary anne hobbs' radio one radio show, the label boss (Kode 9?) did a 15 minute mega mix of the album as a preview.

that might be a bit easier to digest if you dont like the whole album.

a search on teh interwebs usually finds the file.

this album is streets ahead of everything else I've listened to recently.

Unfortunately those streets are around Elephant and Castle.

Hamildan, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i definitely prefer the first album

latebloomer, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

this one though, just seems like partly half hearted retread of the first one

it's certainly more of the same, but how is it half-hearted? are there any 'full-hearted' retreads made one year after the first?

unsuccessfully trying to take it somewhere new, and trying to make 'proper' garage

i don't think hear any attempt to make 'proper garage' here - over-reliance on that jingling clp-clop 2 step beat maybe, but the tracks that work best with this are as good as the similar ones on the first LP (if only by sounding and being structured so similarly)

i found the vocals in particular really pretty bad.

what is the difference between the vocals on Untrue and those on tracks like 'Distant Lights' and 'U Hurt Me'. nothing of note from what i can tell.

blueski, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

More Todd Edwards.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

This album frustrates me because it's so close to something I would love. The vocals kill it for me, though. If they were just a bit less prominent in the mix, maybe with decreased volume, more "dubby" fx, and triggered less often, it would have been classic. I also wish there were more quiet interludes like the song about 3/4 of the way through (the name escapes me).

rockapads, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link

"If they were just a bit less prominent in the mix, maybe with decreased volume, more "dubby" fx, and triggered less often, it would have been classic"

OTM

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link

the vocals are awesome, you guys smoke rocks.

pipecock, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Pipecock otm, but then again dude's first album puts me to sleep, so I'm very glad he changed directions.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 02:14 (sixteen years ago) link

ive listened to this about 3 times. will have another go but i have to say, burial works much better for me one track at a time (in the context of a dj mix for example). an album of that shit is just too much for me.

sam500, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Finally gave Untrue a try (the previous one didn't really click with me and this thread put me off a bit) and fuck all the haters this is ten times better than Burial. Especially because it is so 'samey' and monolithic (which seems to be the main criticism against it).

Siegbran, Thursday, 1 May 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

"It's a fairly common US thing to class all electronic music as 'techno', I've noticed."

We're provincial that way.

factcheckr, Thursday, 1 May 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link

The vocals are the BEST PART. The beats are fairly pedestrian 2-steppy clanks, that circulate on repeat across a number of tracks, like some broken machine flailing in vain.

The general atmosphere on the first one is way more diverse and compelling, which leaves the vox on the second being the only aspect that fascinates me.

factcheckr, Friday, 2 May 2008 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link


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