sun kil moon?

like, maybe he was always a meanie, but i'm still waiting for someone to actually pull up some notable quotes - let alone songs - from his first decade where he bullies people by their full name

No it's definitely more of a thing now. As far as I know the extent of his dickishness in the past was simply giving people in the audience a hard time.

like, maybe he was always a meanie, but i'm still waiting for someone to actually pull up some notable quotes - let alone songs - from his first decade where he bullies people by their full name

katy

lol sorry that is a deeply uncharitable reply

I was 100% onboard with him calling a bunch of hip urban 'new south' concertgoers hillbillies, because I hate Raleigh

lol u realize that probably half the people in that room were from CH/Durham/Carrboro right

is this guy an alcoholic maybe?
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, June 5, 2015 1:44 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've been watching Vikings, and i think that he is a Viking maybe?
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, June 5, 2015 1:53 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Obv I don't know him just his behavior um recalls some ppl that I have known I guess

Yeah, it sounds like some kind of radical transparency that probably spells trouble.

xp I understand exactly what you mean it resembles ppl floating around but not quite hitting the bottom

Kozelek is a noted boxing fan – on This Is My First Day … he recounts spending $17,000 on tickets for the recent Mayweather/Pacquiao fight, the result of Benji selling, he says, “enough copies that I’m living good!”

honest question: why has this guy's stature risen? what's different from before? does he go on late shows and play coachella? has p4k been going full circle jerk on him?

Benji got the rare 9.x pfork rating which I think turned a lot of new folks onto him

Oh fuckoff!

"Pitchfork- The Tastemaker!"

Benji is good

lol u realize that probably half the people in that room were from CH/Durham/Carrboro right
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Saturday, June 6, 2015 12:14 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

... really though, I'm just rationalizing what is at heart a pretty straightforward position: audience-baiting = generally cool, sometimes necessary & often funny; weird public airing of grievances = morally dubious & uncomfortable to watch

** I am okay with that Spoon diss track where they call out the A&R guy who burned them ('How does it feel to go home & not be honest with anyone?' is a great line) but my opinion might change if they had called it "Lafitte, Suck My Cock"

Kozelek has the rare distinction of making Morrissey look classy

Yeah no I think that might actually be going too far

Sorry Koz, you're no Moz

until just now I'd never actually looked at/listened to the lyrics to that song about the War On Drugs

they read almost exactly like Anal Cunt lyrics

I just gave benji a try and this is not for me. The first track was nice enough but even then I didn't want to hear autobiographical stuff. Based on my interest of Sun Kil Moon revolving around only 2 songs (the ones I posted two days ago), it shouldn't come as a surprise that I can't get into this album at all. Whatever

the guitar sound on Universal Themes is definitely a *choice*, but I don't understand why anyone would want to have that dave matthews farty guitar pickup sound

I just gave benji a try and this is not for me. The first track was nice enough but even then I didn't want to hear autobiographical stuff. Based on my interest of Sun Kil Moon revolving around only 2 songs (the ones I posted two days ago), it shouldn't come as a surprise that I can't get into this album at all. Whatever

― The Once-ler, Monday, June 8, 2015 2:44 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You might as well give April a shot.

somewhere i've got a digital copy of a mark kozelek radio performance from... '88? '89? i'll try to find it

I'd definitely love to hear that.

april is the best kozelek record

April is definitely excellent. the last Kozelek album that i played to death.

the worm turns

hah! ian cohen gotta be piiiiiiiiiiiiiiissed right now

don't bite the hand that feeds Mark! lol

Even setting all that aside, if Mark Kozelek had spent the last year and a half playing his music and—to reference a lesson he supposedly learned from his father in Benji's "I Love My Dad"—minding his own business, Universal Themes would still be a disappointing record.

In what sense has he not been minding his own business? zing rejected.

"Cry Me a River Williamsburg Sleeve Tattoo Blues" is a funny title in search of a song, while "This Is My First Day and I'm Indian and I Work at a Gas Station" is an unfunny title in search of a delete key.

this one, however

haha!

Pretty much agree with the review but portraying the majority of his other albums as "spotty" (as if it were the consensus) seemed undeserved!

So, I guess we should be listening to that new Jason Derulo album instead?

One of the songs is even described as being "breezy and Balearic".

http://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/399eqn/pitchfork_changes_sun_kil_moon_review_after/

man ppl really offended by something pitchfork has done multiple times

p4k is everything if i cannot trust them I am lost :'(

also the comps of like, "kanye's an asshole why dont they hate him too om gosh" are hysterical

like...folks...maybe the music's just really bad /and/ he's a complete twathammer

People also not really grasping the point in the review where he mentions that it's tough to separate the social media incidents from the music. Failing to conflate those things would be an issue if they weren't, you know, literally addressed in the lyrics of multiple songs. That's like saying "judge the blogger separate from the personal blog posts!"

Actually I misread a little, they were more commenting on how the opinion of the record is skewed based on what social media is saying about HIM, but it's still much more relevant than perhaps otherwise since the record is so personal.

p sure the opinion of the record is skewed by Mark personally insulting a Pfork staff member in public

altho iirc I believe Xgau still gave Take No Prisoners a good review after Reed called him a toefucker (Reed's onstage standup comedy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kozelek's, obviously)

well, Xgau gave it a C+, maybe that's the equivalent here idk

http://www.spin.com/2015/06/mark-kozelek-feminist-guilt-sun-kil-moon/

would be kinda like giving up church for Lent with this new one

really misleading to include skolnik in that tweet roundup - while she said people should stop making "excuses" for kozelek, she made clear she was arguing for people to ACKNOWLEDGE kozelek's actions while subjectively deciding how they feel about and engage with the art and artist, not calling for a boycott.

it's really frustrating when people are determined to keep things at "how bad does a person have to be before we remove them from the history of pop culture" and refuse to acknowledge perspectives that aren't coming from a such a faux-objective puritan place. "i'm not going to stop listening to kozelek because there are worse things in the world than a bully" - like, cool! but don't pretend that's what everyone's asking you to do