Oh boy, sleaze! That's where he's a viking
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 5 June 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
he was well known to be in rehab as a teenager (for drugs) but i've never known alcohol be an issue with him, he's just been kind of a dick forever; it's more that his stature has risen to a point where people pay attention to his dickishness.
― akm, Friday, 5 June 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link
was he writing sadcore variations on g'n'rs "get in the ring" in 1995?
― da croupier, Friday, 5 June 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
probably, they're just way more buried in metaphor
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 5 June 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
like, maybe he was always a meanie, but i'm still waiting for someone to actually pull up some notable quotes - let alone songs - from his first decade where he bullies people by their full name
― da croupier, Friday, 5 June 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link
No it's definitely more of a thing now. As far as I know the extent of his dickishness in the past was simply giving people in the audience a hard time.
― Evan, Friday, 5 June 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link
katy
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 5 June 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link
lol sorry that is a deeply uncharitable reply
I was 100% onboard with him calling a bunch of hip urban 'new south' concertgoers hillbillies, because I hate Raleigh
lol u realize that probably half the people in that room were from CH/Durham/Carrboro right
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:14 (eight years ago) link
is this guy an alcoholic maybe?― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, June 5, 2015 1:44 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i've been watching Vikings, and i think that he is a Viking maybe?― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, June 5, 2015 1:53 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Obv I don't know him just his behavior um recalls some ppl that I have known I guess
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:21 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, it sounds like some kind of radical transparency that probably spells trouble.
― ... (Eazy), Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:36 (eight years ago) link
xp I understand exactly what you mean it resembles ppl floating around but not quite hitting the bottom
― slothroprhymes, Saturday, 6 June 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link
Kozelek is a noted boxing fan – on This Is My First Day … he recounts spending $17,000 on tickets for the recent Mayweather/Pacquiao fight, the result of Benji selling, he says, “enough copies that I’m living good!”
― slam dunk, Saturday, 6 June 2015 01:18 (eight years ago) link
honest question: why has this guy's stature risen? what's different from before? does he go on late shows and play coachella? has p4k been going full circle jerk on him?
― The Once-ler, Saturday, 6 June 2015 01:46 (eight years ago) link
Benji got the rare 9.x pfork rating which I think turned a lot of new folks onto him
― ciderpress, Saturday, 6 June 2015 01:48 (eight years ago) link
Oh fuckoff!
― The Once-ler, Saturday, 6 June 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link
"Pitchfork- The Tastemaker!"
― The Once-ler, Saturday, 6 June 2015 01:59 (eight years ago) link
Benji is good
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 6 June 2015 02:02 (eight years ago) link
lol u realize that probably half the people in that room were from CH/Durham/Carrboro right― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Saturday, June 6, 2015 12:14 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Saturday, 6 June 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link
... really though, I'm just rationalizing what is at heart a pretty straightforward position: audience-baiting = generally cool, sometimes necessary & often funny; weird public airing of grievances = morally dubious & uncomfortable to watch
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Saturday, 6 June 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link
** I am okay with that Spoon diss track where they call out the A&R guy who burned them ('How does it feel to go home & not be honest with anyone?' is a great line) but my opinion might change if they had called it "Lafitte, Suck My Cock"
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Saturday, 6 June 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link
Kozelek has the rare distinction of making Morrissey look classy
― sonz of a croup da croupier (NickB), Saturday, 6 June 2015 11:01 (eight years ago) link
Yeah no I think that might actually be going too far
― sonz of a croup da croupier (NickB), Saturday, 6 June 2015 11:03 (eight years ago) link
Sorry Koz, you're no Moz
― sonz of a croup da croupier (NickB), Saturday, 6 June 2015 11:04 (eight years ago) link
until just now I'd never actually looked at/listened to the lyrics to that song about the War On Drugs
they read almost exactly like Anal Cunt lyrics
― pull blart, maul cops (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 6 June 2015 12:53 (eight years ago) link
I just gave benji a try and this is not for me. The first track was nice enough but even then I didn't want to hear autobiographical stuff. Based on my interest of Sun Kil Moon revolving around only 2 songs (the ones I posted two days ago), it shouldn't come as a surprise that I can't get into this album at all. Whatever
― The Once-ler, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
the guitar sound on Universal Themes is definitely a *choice*, but I don't understand why anyone would want to have that dave matthews farty guitar pickup sound
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
― The Once-ler, Monday, June 8, 2015 2:44 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You might as well give April a shot.
― Evan, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
somewhere i've got a digital copy of a mark kozelek radio performance from... '88? '89? i'll try to find it
― example (crüt), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
I'd definitely love to hear that.
― Evan, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
april is the best kozelek record
― ciderpress, Monday, 8 June 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
April is definitely excellent. the last Kozelek album that i played to death.
― charlie h, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 08:48 (eight years ago) link
the worm turns
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
hah! ian cohen gotta be piiiiiiiiiiiiiiissed right now
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link
don't bite the hand that feeds Mark! lol
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
Even setting all that aside, if Mark Kozelek had spent the last year and a half playing his music and—to reference a lesson he supposedly learned from his father in Benji's "I Love My Dad"—minding his own business, Universal Themes would still be a disappointing record.
In what sense has he not been minding his own business? zing rejected.
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link
"Cry Me a River Williamsburg Sleeve Tattoo Blues" is a funny title in search of a song, while "This Is My First Day and I'm Indian and I Work at a Gas Station" is an unfunny title in search of a delete key.
this one, however
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
haha!
― irl friend of the geir (NickB), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link
Pretty much agree with the review but portraying the majority of his other albums as "spotty" (as if it were the consensus) seemed undeserved!
― Evan, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
So, I guess we should be listening to that new Jason Derulo album instead?
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link
One of the songs is even described as being "breezy and Balearic".
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link
http://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/399eqn/pitchfork_changes_sun_kil_moon_review_after/
― Evan, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link
man ppl really offended by something pitchfork has done multiple times
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link
p4k is everything if i cannot trust them I am lost :'(
― Evan, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link
also the comps of like, "kanye's an asshole why dont they hate him too om gosh" are hysterical
like...folks...maybe the music's just really bad /and/ he's a complete twathammer
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link
People also not really grasping the point in the review where he mentions that it's tough to separate the social media incidents from the music. Failing to conflate those things would be an issue if they weren't, you know, literally addressed in the lyrics of multiple songs. That's like saying "judge the blogger separate from the personal blog posts!"
― Evan, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link
Actually I misread a little, they were more commenting on how the opinion of the record is skewed based on what social media is saying about HIM, but it's still much more relevant than perhaps otherwise since the record is so personal.
― Evan, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
p sure the opinion of the record is skewed by Mark personally insulting a Pfork staff member in public
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
altho iirc I believe Xgau still gave Take No Prisoners a good review after Reed called him a toefucker (Reed's onstage standup comedy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kozelek's, obviously)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link
well, Xgau gave it a C+, maybe that's the equivalent here idk
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link