I'm seriously not sure I'm psychologically ready for this show to be back...
― Frederik B, Thursday, 4 June 2015 11:35 (eight years ago) link
now where did i put my deer antlers
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 June 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link
Bryan Fuller is doing a Q&A on FB right now: https://www.facebook.com/NBCHannibal/posts/903814376308000
some fun stuff so far, like the fact that Bedelia's character was originally written for Angela Lansbury! And that he'd ideally cast a non-white actor as Clarice Starling if they ever got the rights to SOTL.
― Roz, Friday, 5 June 2015 00:56 (eight years ago) link
Bedelia with her arm down Zachary Quinto's throat was weird.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 5 June 2015 03:14 (eight years ago) link
I liked Anderson adjusting her strapless gown.
― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 5 June 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link
But seriously why did she have her arm down his throat.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 5 June 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link
ripped his tongue out iirc
or Hannibal posed her that way, who knows
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link
I am up in the air on the new musical cues and themes, definitely a switch-up
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link
That seems like an inefficient and needlessly messy way to rip someone's tongue out.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 5 June 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link
Thanks for nothing, strategically placed wine glass!!
― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 5 June 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link
haha
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
goddamn, this hit the ground running
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
i like that it did not give a single solitary fuck that our biggest concern was who was alive in the aftermath of the dinner party; let's just get caught up with Hannibal and his gal in paris
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link
is it? really?
― j., Friday, 5 June 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link
well it sure as hell was for me! They potentially murdered 75% of the cast in the cliffhanger for last season and we're not gonna check in with them even once?
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link
you americans, always rushing everything, never savoring
― j., Friday, 5 June 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link
Again, I'm saying I appreciated their willingness to cut against the grain of that sentiment.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link
I felt like there was a pretty slow pace to about half the episode. As far as the overarching plot goes, sure, we're in media res
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
in the shit
― j., Friday, 5 June 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link
I am not sure about the Eddie Izzard inner dinner party debate sequences. It's an interesting way to illustrate what Hannibal asked Bedelia about her anticipation of others' emotions and actions, but I hope it's not ongoing. Not that it could be, as he was about spent as far as limbs go.
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link
Bonsoir
i think it was to emphasize how much hannibal craves an audience
― dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
The casting of someone recognizable as the patient Hannibal sent to Bedelia to bait them into a murderous situation seems to indicate we might see more flashbacks to her grooming
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
great episode tho, hallucinatory/non-chronological vibe was really effective - as was the switching between 1.85 and full widescreen for present vs. past respectively
― dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link
The look on Anderson's face when she's told her diet is what Romans fed animals to make them tastier, well...
When in Rome...
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link
i thought the izzard sequences are meant to suggest that hannibal could very well be preparing bedelia for eating and that she's acutely aware of that possibility but is trapped in a self-destructive cycle that he's constructed for herhave we ever seen hannibal engage in sexual activity? he seems to full of himself to allow it. it occurred to me that the sound of mads and gillian fucking would be that of a cello being bowed by a leather gloved hand.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link
they were pretty clear he was in a sexual relationship with Alana Bloom
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
yeah, but only as a manipulation? i guess i'm asking if this guy has sex for pleasure and the answer is likely obviously no; the pointed turning away at bedelia's bath felt meaningful... "it's definitely not that kind of party"
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link
yeah remember the dream-space five way w/ alana hannibal will margot verger and...the antler demon? lol
― dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link
i think he's capable of experience sexual pleasure but it prob is not something he thinks about much or prioritizes though so i m/l agree w you forks
― dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 June 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
eating people is much more u&k
― ultimate american sock (mh), Friday, 5 June 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/06/hannibal-lecters-enduring-appeal/394967/
― j., Friday, 5 June 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link
director of the premiere on the visual inspirations/coloring/imagery etc. http://www.vulture.com/2015/06/hannibal-most-avant-garde-season-yet.html?mid=twitter_vulture
SLIGHT SPOILER w/r/t a character who hasnt been seen yet - only in that there's an image of them that iirc was in the trailers, but just figured i'd attach the warning
― dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 June 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
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and how much he wants that audience to be Will. Bedelia's a distraction and she knows it. (In Bryan Fuller-speak, Hannibal wants his murder husband, not murder wife.)
I did like how Eddie Izzard had one less limb every time they cut to a new flashback/hallucination scene.
― Roz, Friday, 5 June 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link
Wasn't it implied before that Hannibal was the one who killed Zach Quinto's character? And that at some point, he made Bedelia believe that she was the one who did it, in the same way he made Will think he killed Abigail?
― Roz, Friday, 5 June 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link
yes.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link
Ohhhhhh I had missed that.
I feel like I need to rewatch previous seasons but I don't know if I can handle it.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 5 June 2015 22:25 (eight years ago) link
i would love to rewatch this whole thing sometime soon. maybe when it wraps.no word on a season four yet right?
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 June 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link
the florence shots are scrumptious
― Mordy, Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:14 (eight years ago) link
snails on the hand was maybe the most beautifully nauseating thing I have seen
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:29 (eight years ago) link
i like that the show's aesthetics are similarly nihilistic or amoral as hannibal's - treating blood, death, snails feasting on hands w/ the same lavish attention as champagne, the duomo, a faucet. and those totems that blur the lines - the dante illustrations, the museum-displayed torture items, the upside down rabbit in the meat shop
― Mordy, Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link
oh man that lucifer slide over hannibal's faceno other show on television is as well filmed, no other show is even close
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:45 (eight years ago) link
omg yes the rabbit
so much of the show's aesthetic to food & flesh reminds me of the 17th (?) century Vanitas paintings, skulls and rotting fruit in lush detail
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 June 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link
xp otm
― slothroprhymes, Saturday, 6 June 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link
The graphicness of the cooking is a turn off to me. I wish they could manage some subtlety.
― calstars, Saturday, 6 June 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
O_o. no wai that's the best part! imo
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 June 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link
Yeah big fan of that stuff personally
― Spottie, Saturday, 6 June 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link
LOL subtlety.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Sunday, 7 June 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link
http://twitter.com/BryanFuller/status/607363465091510272
― ultimate american sock (mh), Sunday, 7 June 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link
not sure if the hide-and-seek scene was necessary but it provided some good dramatic tension
I will be downloading a copy of this episode this weekend due to the fact we had storms in my area and the local television station helpfully had the storm alert banner at the bottom of the screen for the ENTIRE EPISODE
― Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 12 June 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link