"We've been told you still fly into rages at the mention of Christine White's name. You want to tell us what that's about?"
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 1 June 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link
Re that Pitchfork interview, kinda wish he was as tough on Jessica Pratt whom he praises, as he is on Taylor Swift. But he is who he is.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 1 June 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link
oh god that interview. love it/hate it/love it.
"PF: There are a few songs on Poison Season that are among the poppiest Destroyer songs you’ve ever made."
DB: Yeah, I know. I apologize for those songs; those songs are aberrations."
― jamiesummerz, Monday, 1 June 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link
Pitchfork interview is cool, he comes off as a real character!
Over the last 11 years or so, I’ve mostly just listened to Van Morrison, Joni Mitchell, and Bob Dylan.
Hehe...
http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/9651-accidental-pop-a-conversation-with-destroyers-dan-bejar/
― niels, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link
New track:
https://soundcloud.com/destroyerband/girl-in-a-sling#t=0:00
― groovypanda, Monday, 13 July 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
some discussion already over at Destroyer - Poison Season
― Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Monday, 13 July 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link
can we make a list of albums that are very similar to kaputt but not kaputt?
1) Roxy Music - Avalon
― niels, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:50 (eight years ago) link
2)Al Stewart- Year of the Cat
― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
prefab sprout -- steve mcqueen
a lil bit at least
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
The Blue Nile - Hats
― tayto fan (Michael B), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link
in the kaputt vs. let england shake thread there's a lot of great posts about how this record def contains sophistopop references but also takes them a step further, sounding like an idiosyncratic contemporary of these records that was never made at the time
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link
actually possibly no posts in that thread said that and i'm paraphrasing them incorrectly but: there are a lot of great posts in that thread
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link
that was a good thread.
some fun trolling and beef too e.g. flopson and aero
― Tim F, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link
I'm sure I wrote in this thread that Kaputt evokes sophisti-pop, but I was wrong: it's a histrionic Robert Wyatt album.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 02:50 (eight years ago) link
Isn't Comicopera already a histrionic Robert Wyatt album?
― Tim F, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link
compared to Kaputt it's Apollo: Atmospheres and Soundtracks.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link
weird, I just decided to explore sophisti-pop today and the list of ten essential albums I found had "Kaputt" on it (as well as "Avalon" and "Steve McQueen")
― Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 04:06 (eight years ago) link
It's not as ostentatious about it as some of the above examples but I think Rickie Lee Jones' The Magazine arguably belongs here as well.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 04:08 (eight years ago) link
what does histrionic mean? dramatic? kaputt's pretty low key though? robert wyatt - hmm feel like Croz' remark on VU: too dramatic
anyway, sophistipop and yacht rock suggestions welcome, blue nile and late Cohen nice too
― niels, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:43 (eight years ago) link
Fleetwood Mac - Tango in the Night
― Neil S, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:44 (eight years ago) link
Good one. Will have to check out the Prefab Sprout too, have come across that recommendation before.
There's something luxurious, melancholic, inoffensively beautiful about Kaputt that I guess makes everybody I know love it.
― niels, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 10:52 (eight years ago) link
Here: http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/bluffer/sophisti-pop.htm
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 11:45 (eight years ago) link
New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies is an obvious reference point though not the same sophisti-pop vibe.
Was surprised to see he'd name-checked Screamadelica, but you can hear the influence in the drums in a few places (Song for America, Kaputt) I guess.
― ufo, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 11:59 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxOL77KMcd8
This is pretty great--Bejar even cracks a couple of jokes!
― Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link
Does John Martyn ever get included in the sophistipop canon?
― Heez, Monday, 23 November 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link
not really like Kaputt as such but i love this slice of sophistipop (in a slightly glum Sunday evening in Surrey kinda vein). also has the wonderful lyric "and i close my eyes....with my eyelids"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w3deHdO0R4
― tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 23 November 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link
Xpost - Martyn probably makes it for some of his post-peak work like Grace and Danger (which I love). One World has some perfectly appropriate songs but feels a bit too willfully eclectic?
― Tim F, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
― Tim F, Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:33 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fondly remember this beef
― flopson, Monday, 23 November 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link
lol aw when flopson called him an unfun crank and aero said i'm sorry
― k3vin k., Monday, 23 November 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link
:'-)
― Tim F, Monday, 23 November 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link
I've only gone as far as One World so excited for the other two recommendations. "Sweet Little Mystery" strikes me as a perfect sophistipop song
― Heez, Monday, 23 November 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link
"Grace and Danger" is actually just one album btw. Stuff after that might also be good but that's as far as I have gone.
― Tim F, Monday, 23 November 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link
Yeah "Sweet Little Mystery" is the song from One World I was thinking of, "Small Hours" for avant-sophisto.
― Tim F, Monday, 23 November 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link
Hang on....Grace and Danger is his peak!
― yugi ex, Monday, 23 November 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link
one world is my favorite martyn record, it feels like it's going in every direction at once. "small hours" crushes me
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 23 November 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link
― yugi ex, Monday, November 23, 2015 11:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I should have put "peak" in inverted commas. I think it's fabulous but it's not (or doesn't seem to be) feted in the way that a lot of the 70s albums are - also meant to say "Sweet Little Mystery" is the song from Grace and Danger I was thinking of first and foremost.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link
Ah, I've been listening to the "Bless the Weather" comp and looking at my favorites from there, it would be a tough choice btwn Grace & Danger or One World. I've never seen a John Martyn thread on ilx! The vocal part on "Small Hours" is basically heaven.
― Heez, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 01:49 (eight years ago) link
One World contains some truly awesome compass point aqua funk
― brimstead, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link
"Big Muff" is amazing and completely singular but (in part because of that) I don't think I'd describe it as sophistipop.
I also listen to Inside Out heaps and heaps, which strangely doesn't seem to get talked about very much.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 03:33 (eight years ago) link
"Big Muff"
― niels, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 10:28 (eight years ago) link
Well, that too.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 10:35 (eight years ago) link
Danish band Liss have a sophistipop thing going, more on "Always" than "Try", but "Try" is great too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qXPPHhs6nk
― niels, Saturday, 28 November 2015 11:35 (eight years ago) link
Does Thomas Dolby fit the sophisti-pop handle? The Flat Earth is pretty damn fine. It's Immaterial's Song is excellent, too.
― Poacher (Chinaski), Saturday, 28 November 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link
(Thomas Dolby also produced three Prefab Sprout records, including Steve McQueen)
― lazyitis, Sunday, 29 November 2015 06:27 (eight years ago) link
Not quite as luxurious and sophisticated as Kaputt or Avalon, but still quite enjoyable: China Crisis Flaunt the Imperfection and What Price Paradise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpbpxjSzZo
― lazyitis, Sunday, 29 November 2015 06:35 (eight years ago) link
Just discovered Gigi Masin. I'm only on the album opener from "Talk To The Sea" (2015), but I'm already impressed. Echoes of Tea In The Sahara-era Sting! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iq6vNW6Bh4
― pplasma, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link
ooh, that's lovely. good share!
― artisanally blended vape juice smoothie (bernard snowy), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link
so i picked up a shift last night at my bar on "college tuesday"...put this on and got surprising reactions. Lots of "who's this?" and to top it off Song for America actually had people dancing and sexy girl dancing. Although there were a few odd looks during the whole animals...deaths embrace thing. Meanwhile I was doing lots of pelvic thrusts behind the bar. Im sure this is exactly what Bejar was going for.― Beardie you disappoint me (chrisv2010), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:14 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Beardie you disappoint me (chrisv2010), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:14 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this post still haunts me whenever i listen to this record
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 November 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link
China Crisis Flaunt the Imperfection is great! good recommendations itt
Danish singer/songwriter CV Jørgensen's late masterpiece Sjælland has more of a 90s vibe, but not far off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tujEAbQIwXo
― niels, Monday, 30 November 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link