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so, where can i find something i can print out with the basics of texas hold em (rules and some advice), or indeed more advanced info? or am i going to have to buy a book? and if so, which one?

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Any of the poker sites will have tutorials - and if you want a poker community which aggregates lots of the info, as well as having useful forums for beginners and experts alike, try www.flopturnriver.com which I like a lot.

If you like, I can get together a load of links I found for a friend of mine I taught a few weeks ago, and who now is £100 up on me as well as being, by all accounts, a much better player.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks mark, i'm printing off the stuff from flopturnriver.com now, looks great...

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link

After a one-week layoff, I turned into a golden god w/ the luck of the lucky. Over the last fortnight, I've won two multi-table $5 tourneys (for over $1000!), and have gone to the final table in 2 others, including yesterday. I probably would've done better in the tourney I was in last night, too, if my wifi connection didn't once again shit itself - I still finished 8th, though.

I'm actually AHEAD overall now (not as much as I'd like of course, but it's the nature of the beast). It's madness. Of course, now I expect to win, so when folks suck me out (for instance, when 2 heart-suited guys are calling my agressive raises when I get 2 pair - Ks & 3s - on the flop, and BOTH OF THEM go runner runner on me when they should've folded eons ago), I get slightly perturbed. I mean, OK, you have AQ hearts, and K73 flop (one heart), and you're short-stacked, sure, waste your money chasing an A or the long-shot flush but NINE SIX? NINE SIX? Are you STUPID? Do you want me to wipe that drool off your chin, you incompetent luck-fucking douche?

Other anti-luck fun - getting dealt pocket 10s, and losing to pocket Qs BOTH TIMES (including one hand where the flop offered both a 10 AND a Q). Also - losing AJ to 42 suited because a TWO comes up on the river. Also - losing 3 Js because my showdown opponent drew the 4 cards he needed for a straight.

I think I'm finally coming to grips w/ the random chance nature of poker, tho - I went fishing 5 times successfully last night. Granted, I was fishing for a flush w/ AK suited, or fishing for a pair w/ AJ offsuit and nothing higher than a 9 showing. Fishing for high game w/ quality bait is A-OK, unless you come up short and the dorkwit w/ pocket 3s wins all your stuff. Still, some downers or muscle relaxants would probably mitigate my need to foam at the mouth when I don't get the breaks.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

David R, you da man! What are you? YOU DA MAN!!

Last night I managed to lose $80 at William Hill - very frustrating, but I think playing against UNBEFUCKINGLIEVABLY slow calling stations has warped my playing style for the worse.

So afterwards, I went to pokerroom and played shorthanded ring for a while. At first, my money ebbed away slowly (mainly because of a decent player to my right), but when he left I turned $13 into $46 in not very long at all, playing good poker, quickly, with decent-good cards against decent players who folded when they should and didn't take 30 seconds on ONE SINGLE DECISION.

God it felt good. Thing is, I *know* I can make money at William Hill, as I'm £160 up so far (playing in sterling there is very good for the bank balance - assuming I'm not losing, of course), so I'd like to stick around there a while longer. So... I'm multi-tabling from now on. I'll start with 2 tables, and consider three if that gets dull/good returns. Only real concern is that there are only 5 or 6 £0.15/£0.25 tables, and people may be getting to know my style.

Toby, do you have AIM or MSN? I'd love to discuss the whole shebang with you while you're learning - give advice if I can etc.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i do have msn, mark - but i'm going to be offline for the next week, when we'll be in spain. but once i'm back...

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 2 June 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, cool! I still suspect you'll be more suited to limit poker (and when I say "suited", I mean "in 6 months you'll be a shoo-in for the World Series of Poker, Limit Hold'em Category"), but if your reading makes you think No Limit might be fun, that's my area of, um, slightly less hopelessness.

I'm on hols from 9th - 13th June, but after that, let's kick some ass. Via email too is fun. You should sign up for a poker site that has micro limits (i.e. where each minimum bet is between 2 and 10 cents, rather than $0.25/£0.25 where I play) as you'll learn better there than on play tables - I hear Ultimate Bet has good microlimit facilities. It may cost you a few bucks - the so-called "learning tax" whereby you lose money to start with but learn by your mistakes - but it's part of the process - and at micro-limits there's no way you should lose more than $20-$30 before you start consistently winning.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 2 June 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Update time y'all?

(this is me right now).

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 5 June 2005 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm trying to retrain myself right now. I got a bit stupid, thinking I could win by playing any and all hands w/ no rhyme or reason, and thinking that everyone against me is bluffing. Still up overall, of course, but my trend line's flattened out a bit.

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 5 June 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

i've got the say i love the new pokerroom software that shows you the WINNING PERCENTAGE when there's an all-in stand up thing. except i love it so much that i'm tempted to go all-in on everything just to see this new feature.

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 5 June 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone who hasn't clicked on my link above - my last three days have been (on William Hill alone) £72 up, £89 down, £58 up. It is NOT good for my heart rate.

Amateurs hardly ever bluff. A re-raise from a fish is a 100% sign they have the cards.

I haven't seen this software, Ken - can you describe in detail what it does?

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It's an update of the PokerRoom downloadable software (for playing away from your browser). When there's a showdown, it shows the chance of winning for each contestant. So, for instance, if you have trip Js, you know your opponent (stumbling into a straight draw w/ pocket TQ offsuit) has a 9% chance of getting a card that will make you lose your shit.

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

there you go
http://lolrider.com/pokerroom.jpg

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 5 June 2005 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Woo dog. A 2nd-place finish (& $344 bux) for me. Mark, many thanks for mentioning that FlopTurnRiver site - it's definitely helped fix my "problems".

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 6 June 2005 07:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Updates anyone?

I've been playing tournaments this week after a couple of months of cash games only. It's been great fun - I can totally recommend Pacific (who are shit for most things) Poker's Nitro 16-man tourneys - 16 people, $5.50 buyin, $40 1st prize, and it's all over in 25 mins! 10 seconds to make your bet is NOT a lot of time, trust me.

I still haven't made the money in any multi-table tourneys, but equally I barely ever can spare the time to play them. SNGs I'm still comfortably up though.

Currently I'm about £350 up in all, which is a bit under £100 a month in real terms. But it's a great hobby, regardless of the cash.

If anyone wants any referrals, btw (to Pacific, Pokerroom, William Hill or Empire) I'd be delighted to send you one :)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 26 August 2005 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm still thinking about it, but I find myself losing too much in real life.

One of the guys I play poker with said that he quit the online stuff once when he had four of a kind and was beaten by a straight flush. Bull fuckin' shit. Least with a human being, you can whup their ass.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 26 August 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link

(And of all threads, this one has managed to avoid the spam?)

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 26 August 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Hahaha - oh, for all the times I've been hosed online. KK v AA, AA v KK and getting kinged on the river, AK v AA or KK, AA broken by 7-high 4-drawn straight, trip Ks broken by rivered 4-drawn flush, etc etc etc. I was especially partial to losing w/ AA to J7 off because I was reraised all-in preflop and the dude caught 2 pair ON THE FLOP.

As for me - I think I'm still up overall, but not by much. (I don't want to find out how much of my winnings have been eaten up.) Been trying higher-stakes tourneys (higher-stakes REBUY tourneys), and have been getting hosed overall. Rebuy tourneys are a bitch, as players (already looser than my shorts) just play shit hands because, hey, they can just buy back in. Had a run for about 3 weeks where I was either just missing the money or only finishing in the lower tier of the money. However, I was also playing a LOT of tourneys in a day, which probably numbed me to the nuances of the game, and made me go from cautious cagey card fiend to free-wheeling shitwit.

Played yesterday (online) for the first time in about a week - dropping most of my savings on college tuition means less happy-fun-time gambling for me. Finished 30th and won $17 in a $5 tourney (400+ entrants), and (most importantly) made good plays. And also avoided the "KK v AA" type of pooch-screws. Except when I was shortstacked near the end, and went all in preflop w/ 66 (because my stack was worth about 2 blinds), and the guy next to me called my bet. With KK. Bastard.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 26 August 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Did I actually say K4 was a good hand once? Lord help me.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 26 August 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Hehe :)

Anyway, tonight, not only did I finish up in cash games on FOUR different sites (albeit only one of them being a decent amount, £33 on William Hill), but I managed to WIN a single table tournament versus 9 other members of the poker forum of which I'm a member! They are almost all more experienced and successful than me, so it was doubly sweet :)

(in case anyone here is interested in having a look and maybe joining, this is the link)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 26 August 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
The Parishiltonists score their first big scalp of the season, as Raghav Passantino, aka "The Juror" (man, I love being given an obvious nickname by those dudes who stay on to watch matches after they've been eliminated) entered a 7,000 played Bet365 freeroll, and finished 6th, winning me a tidy £75 which I will use to buy the alcohol.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 11 September 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Did I actually say K4 was a good hand once? Lord help me.

-- David R. (quoteidio...), August 26th, 2005. (popshots75`)

Hahahahaha guess what hand finally eliminated me from the tournament? I fucking called him with K9s as well.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 11 September 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I lost $25 tonight, in real life. Who the fuck holds J6 sitting next to the dealer?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 11 September 2005 05:45 (eighteen years ago) link

raghav dude! does this mean 75 is now the new 10+1?

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 11 September 2005 06:55 (eighteen years ago) link

we need to totally change all our login names to prefix it with ph_

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 11 September 2005 06:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Remind me why, ken?

PP, you reckon it's fixed? Really?

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4746

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 11 September 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Phew - just won my first $8+$0.80 8-man Nitro at Pacific. $40!

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 11 September 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Um, seen them. I even posted to the first one.

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 11 September 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

raghav dude! does this mean 75 is now the new 10+1?

There's only one 10+1. But 75 is totally 10+1

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 11 September 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, sorry Ken. My 8+.80 was four fifths of 10+1!! omg!

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 11 September 2005 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

OKAY YOU GUYS. Time, I think, to organise another ILXPokerx0r game of some kind! All up for it? We should agree a weeknight soon, maybe next week, when we can all get together, probably at Pokerroom since most of us are members and it can deal with macs.

So, provisionally: Wednesday September 21st at, say, 11pm. I think you can still set up a private room at Pokerroom, is that right? If not, we can, I'm sure, find an empty room and camp out there. Even better, we could all sign up for the same sit'n'go!

Anyone who's interested, please respond on this thread or, if you like, email me on this email address. LET'S DO THIS THING, YOU GUYS!

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, I hang out at a small but perfectly formed poker community - it's a bit quiet at the mo so it'd be rad if some of you could come over, have a read and maybe join up.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

we already have a poker community mark!!!!

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

(see 7 posts above!)

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I ain't fucking with ring games anymore, so an ILXors poker tournament would be perfect for me.

I'm about to hussle fools in the Bet365poker freeroll if anyone else is free at the moment.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

but yes i wouldn't mind a parishiltonists tourney!

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

yes Ken, but it's a joke community, so maybe if anyone fancies a sort of proper one then it'd be nice if they could have a look. There's room for both!

(also, your one seems to have stopped)

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i might be up for a game tonight if you guys are.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i've been on partypoker.com for a bit though so i may well be all dumbed-down.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i've already noticed that i trash-talk a lot more than i did

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Heh. I sometimes play at Empire, which is affiliated to Party. Don't like it very much, but it's pretty fishy.

If anyone fancies a poker challenge, have a look at this. I'm in the middle of it right now. Scary but fascinating seeing how the big boys live!

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow - that actually sounds like a plan! (Also, it would accomplish my ulterior motive of securing my $40 deposit bonus FOR REAL.)

FWIW: haven't played in the past couple of days, due to school stuff. Last week = not good. Got HOSED, lost $100+ in ring & tourney shenanigans. Usually hosed myself to boot.

Mark, that AI bluff would make me wanna call you bad names. :)

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

You mean the final hand? Why, I had top pair!! No kicker, admittedly, but hell :) I am terrified about playing $3/$6 NL, but I have to do it at some point. I do know my luck's about to run out - it just can't last.

(got 2nd in a $5.50 SNG tonight, but very mixed performances at ring)

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Had a good week - up to £640 profit now, and am ready for the POKER EXTRAVAGANZA on Wednesday night - if you lot are still up for it?

Show of hands??

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't played much online lately. Barely at all. I did pick up WSOP for PS2 though and its great fun. I've been playing a lot of home games as opposed to online as my frustration with online play got the best of me. Its best to walk away then to sit there and keep putting money and and complain.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link

No, it's best to play with your ILE BUDDIES! Ah go on Chris, it'd be good to see you again on the tables...

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been stopping & going w/ the Markelby Scheme. Farthest I got was to $1/$2 tables, but got wanged when I got pocket Ks and a K on the flop that gave someone else an K-high straight (on the turn).

BTW, if I get taken out by a big stacked squatter that stumbles into 2 pair while calling my raises when I'm dealt AK or AQ and get top pair on the flop, I'm gonna drive down to PR's offices and beat the shit out of someone's fax machine.

Also - to the rat bastard that A) reraised ALL IN w/ AQ off when I raised initially w/ AK suited (when we both had the same sized stack), and B) had no idea he caught a 2-flopped runner runner flush (off the stupid-ass Q) until the next hand: eat me you know-nothing rattit.

(Hi - I'm the Lupton Pitman Bitch & Moan Rebuy King.)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:00 (eighteen years ago) link

last time i played i blew through $200 in 15 minutes.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Last night I had my biggest swing ever - down £50 in 30 mins, in the doldrums for an hour, then up almost £120 to finish £68 in profit. And this was all at £0.15/£0.25NL

So, tonight - should I assume no-one fancies it then?

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link


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