mark s: rockwrite conference to be broadcast on resonance FM

Frith: UK editors didn't care, just published what he sent 'em, unless an extra ad, they'd cut last graf, so had to make sure it was always inessential. Then started writing for the Voice, would get "these terrfying Transatlanctic calls from Robert Christgau for 21/2 hours, asking 'What does this part mean, why do you say it like that?' " Various writers on learning to be aware of "the conventions you had in your head."

Frith says a lot of writing about dance is your basic compulsive insider baseball, no sense of what the music sounds like or what the dancing is like; mentions Simon Reynolds as one who does try to describe those things.

Had to switch players, came back to long discussion of working for "exposure" taking a turn: guy indignantly mentions Pitchfork ad looking for new writers, fine print re no pay, disputed by someone who works for Pitchfork (gotta find podcasts, captures of this whole thing)

That is, I believe, the Mark Pringle-Laura Snapes spat referred to upthread.

Hazel Robinson's response to Laura Snapes: http://piratemoggy.tumblr.com/post/119350594961/enough-or-my-experiences-with-the-middle-aged

Resonance in their wisdom omitted my killer incomprehensible question to the punk panel! I wrote it up and tweeted it anyway - turns out nobody on my timeline understands the final para either, OH WELL...

hi, it's laura. i double checked after getting home from the panel and i was definitely right, mark was 100% wrong. and no such advert ever existed.

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ended at 7:10 BST, not xpost 8. Cool, listening to dynamic Asian music on there now.

I listened to this whole thing today, too hungover to get out of bed. drifted in and out but I can safely say that I too have had ENOUGH of the first and last conference about the history of uk rock journalism from the 60s to the 80s

also it really sounded to me like that one woman said "I'm not from manchester, I'm from tumblr"

haha i think hazel did say exactly that :)

and then plan a six-day follow-up next year

there's also a discussion of it on the freaky trigger comments thread: http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2015/05/a-great-big-clipper-ship/

Ha, assumed I had misheard it in my addled state but couldn't think of where she might actually mean

i keep seeing the TT as:

Mark S. Rockwrite!

which is a great name. and reminds me of the time that i wrote a review for a magazine that shall remain nameless and they made me re-do it over and over and finally i told them to use the name Rick Rockrite instead of my own name on the review. they didn't think that was funny.

https://www.mixcloud.com/Resonance/

^^^for the time being at least, the broadcast elements are up on the resonance mixcloud

mark's followup post: http://dubdobdee.co.uk/2015/06/02/whalers-on-the-moon-curious-despatches-from-an-old-dream/

it good writing

mark is kickstarting a book of related stuff.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/253164519/a-hidden-landscape-once-a-week-an-anthology

ppl should back it.

He also started a separate thread for it.

A HIDDEN LANDSCAPE ONCE A WEEK: the kickstarter for the book of the politics of rockwriting conference

is this online somewhere?

"Frith says a lot of writing about dance is your basic compulsive insider baseball, no sense of what the music sounds like or what the dancing is like; mentions Simon Reynolds as one who does try to describe those things."

i have a lot of time for SR but am honestly tired of him being seen as the token only person who can write well about dance music in the 21st century. though perhaps frith meant SR is the only person who can explain it to old rock critics.

the purpose of the kickstarter -- linked above -- is to get transcripts of the panels published (alongside a bunch of other excellent stuff): this is my primary focus right now :)

I knew you couldn't keep away :)

obviously for maximum impact i should have structured my appeal as some kind of POLL :D

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A HIDDEN LANDSCAPE ONCE A WEEK: the kickstarter for the book of the politics of rockwriting conference
running a kickstarter in a time of plague and panic

Especially as you only came back to partake in the metal poll thread though you forgot dj martian this time YOU PLANK!