Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

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Cooper guides Leland through the afterlife was not directed by lynch though and that scene made me weep, not all the emotional peaks were dir lynch

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link

But generally otm

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

Yeah sorry lynch's proximity to the show does not necessarily = lynch involvement, more that his episodes set the tone. That ep (which I have mixed feelings about) follows his lead in wrapping up the Laura plot imo, the huge tonal shift comes 1 ep later

time trafel 2015 💨 2012 (wins), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link

Oic what u mean

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

agree after lynch abandons show heart largely drains out of it; there's quirky sentimentality/ soapiness but not that ache (or ecstasy & terror)

also reminded of director's instructions in mh audtion scene: "don't play it for real until it gets real"

in lynch's work, at any (unexpected) moment, in midst of artifice/ performance/ irony-- like flicker of the screen-- it gets real

drash, Friday, 22 May 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

One of my favorite moments in the pilot is when Leland finds out and drops the phone and the camera starts panning across the phone. And. Keeps. On. Panning. All the way down the cord. It's the kind of moment that has been done a million times in a soap opera but the amount of attention the phone gets here is almost creepy and it's that kind of filmwork that the post-Lynch TP is lacking most imo.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

i always thought "invitation to love" was a way of "othering" the soap operas that twin peaks sometimes resembled... and reflects both the creators' anxiety and humor about that.

i've probably mentioned this somewhere else in this very long and very old thread, to which i've contributed for over a decade. yikes!

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

i'm O.G. twin peaks btw, having watched it in its original broadcast, back when i was 12-13 y.o.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

Just read the oral history book ("reflections") and that def seems to have been the intent with Invitation To Love.

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

i should read that book! it's been on my amazon wishlist for a long time.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link

It's great

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 May 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

I'm not sure about how much of who was doing what, but is maybe unfair that that Mark Frost is never mentioned in these discussions? Given his role as the active co-creator of the show, is it accurate to be putting so much agency on David Lynch alone in guiding it (I seem to recall that Mark Frost, like DL, was also working on other stuff rather than TP during the dip in the second season)???

(Also, if someone wants to make and send me a screenshot with captions of Dale saying "I would very much like to make love to a beautiful woman who I had a genuine affection for" - near the beginning of the first episode of the second season - I would very much appreciate it).

ed.b, Saturday, 23 May 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link

For sure, the whole esoterica aspect comes from Frost and his obsessions

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 23 May 2015 03:27 (eight years ago) link

eighteen episodes, wow

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 24 May 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link

is that confirmed? all i can find is reference to some comments that sheryl lee made at a conference

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link

angelo badalamenti :D

drash, Sunday, 24 May 2015 01:32 (eight years ago) link

so the $$ that lynch was holding out on might have been funding for the extra 9 episodes? that makes way more sense than the accusations that he was holding the show hostage to get more money for himself

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2015 01:33 (eight years ago) link

Badalamenti signing on is crucial

Οὖτις, Sunday, 24 May 2015 01:40 (eight years ago) link

how in hell did they go from 9 to 18?! that's insane.

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Sunday, 24 May 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link

presumably split up into two seasons?

Clay, Sunday, 24 May 2015 02:00 (eight years ago) link

yeah, 2x9 would make way more sense (especially since TP did better with a shorter season order)

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Sunday, 24 May 2015 02:14 (eight years ago) link

hell 3x6 would be ideal!

Clay, Sunday, 24 May 2015 02:14 (eight years ago) link

2x9. yeah. 2x9...

circa1916, Sunday, 24 May 2015 07:40 (eight years ago) link

2x4s, 4x8s

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Sunday, 24 May 2015 08:21 (eight years ago) link

Yessessss
I've been listening to so much badalamenti lately
The entire Twin Peaks Archive set to shuffle is a really good time

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 24 May 2015 13:03 (eight years ago) link

What is the episode running time? Any different?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 24 May 2015 13:13 (eight years ago) link

one thing that perplexes me about Twin Peaks is how Laura Palmer found time to do so much stuff. She dated both Bobby and James, spent time with Dr. Jacobi and Harold, helped care for Audrey's brother, taught Josie English, did meals on wheels with the RR, worked the perfume counter at the department store, tricked for One-Eyed Jacks and the Roadhouse. I know she did lots of coke, but still don't see how she managed to cram all this stuff in.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Sunday, 24 May 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

Haha yeah def a bit of a headscratcher

Οὖτις, Sunday, 24 May 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

nostalgia, you ppl wear it just like all the other generations

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 24 May 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

"You ppl"

Οὖτις, Sunday, 24 May 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

It's a soap

So You've Been Pubically Shaved (wins), Sunday, 24 May 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius) wrote this on thread 2015 American Politics Thread: The 114th Congress Is in the House! on board I Love Everything on 12-Jan-2015

srsly have you ppl been watching them the last 23 years

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius) wrote this on thread reddening's thread of DISNEY PARKS gossip on board I Love Everything on 06-Nov-2014

thread woefully short on parks gossip. You ppl want to pour your savings into a wretched conglomerate, be my guest, be our guest, be our guest....

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius) wrote this on thread "Pauline Kael said it was 'meditative', but I fell asleep." on board I Love Everything on 20-Oct-2014

shit, she is still this interesting to you ppl, huh

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius) wrote this on thread Which "Class of '99" major American filmmaker has most flagrantly sold out to awards-baiting? on board I Love Everything on 13-Oct-2014

considering many of you ppl see everything that gets nominated for the Golden Doorstops, you have a mysterious contempt for them.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius) wrote this on thread Which "Class of '99" major American filmmaker has most flagrantly sold out to awards-baiting? on board I Love Everything on 13-Oct-2014

ban "awards bait" forever since you ppl either don't know what it is, or that when done right it's a good thing.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius) wrote this on thread Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud? on board I Love Everything on 06-Oct-2014

I guess you ppl liked episodes 18-30 way way more than i did.

Also, Hank Worden is dead.

So You've Been Pubically Shaved (wins), Sunday, 24 May 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius) wrote this on thread Boy-being Meets Girl-being Under a Silvery Moon (Which Then Explodes for No Adequately Explored Reason): THE ROMANTIC COMEDIES POLL RESULTS THREAD on board I Love Everything on 30-Aug-2014

only when theyre wrong

I don't care what YOU ppl think about anything, unless you rule the world after Hillary drops the bomb

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius) wrote this on thread Best film performance by Johnny Depp since he became Captain Jack (no cameos) on board I Love Everything on 04-Aug-2014

you ppl know a lotta pantswetting reppers

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius) wrote this on thread Anticipating Linklater's "Boyhood" on board I Love Everything on 28-Jul-2014

but gawd linklater really only has one idea of male adolescence/youngadulthood doesn't he?

What other ideas is he supposed to have -- YOURS? Rather perhaps you mean he has similar ways of expressing his sense of this period, which only makes sense.

You ppl sure paid a lot of attention to Wiley Wiggins. I've seen D&C 4 or 5 times and Waking Life at least twice, and every time he's mentioned I have to remind myself who he is.

So You've Been Pubically Shaved (wins), Sunday, 24 May 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

sorry, i am not planning to jerk you off ever, wins

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 24 May 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

If you search "u ppl" the majority of posts are dr morbius as you'd expect, the rest are roughly split between deems & nakh lol

So You've Been Pubically Shaved (wins), Sunday, 24 May 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

u r shore good at searching

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 24 May 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link

It's a favourite pastime of my ppl

So You've Been Pubically Shaved (wins), Sunday, 24 May 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

360 3-minute webisodes, confirmed

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 May 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link

nostalgia, you ppl wear it just like all the other generations
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 24 May 2015 15:38 (3 hours ago) Permalink

who do you think we are? who do you think you are?

my guess is: (1) idiots (2) someone who can’t be fooled, man.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Sunday, 24 May 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link

Also, Hank Worden is dead.

not to mention Frank "BOB" Silva. It's hard to imagine continuing the show while dropping him altogether. Wonder how they'll get around that.

ed.b, Monday, 25 May 2015 02:06 (eight years ago) link

Don Davis (Major Briggs) and of course Jack Nance also gone. Small roles, particularly the latter, but two of my favorite characters in the entire series.

circa1916, Monday, 25 May 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link

lookin like a pointless reheat to me

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 May 2015 03:10 (eight years ago) link

lol we know nothing about it other than "all the cast members" and "original creators wrote all episodes, with lynch directing all 18" and "shooting at original locations" but judgement on its artistic validity already rendered by famed tv show lover

Clay, Monday, 25 May 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

I would be surprised if it was any more pointless than 3/4 of season 2. Nowhere to go but up, really.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 25 May 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link

It's 18 hrs of Lynch directing anything. That's most of the value for me.

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Monday, 25 May 2015 03:49 (eight years ago) link

Angelo

surm, Monday, 25 May 2015 05:14 (eight years ago) link

It's 18 hrs of Lynch directing anything.

pre-Mulholland Dr, an extremely mixed career (ie 50% shit)

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 May 2015 07:36 (eight years ago) link

just watched Mulholland for like the 500th time. one of the best beginnings of a movie of all time obviously.

it's always fun to see Kyle M on TV in his various recent roles.

surm, Monday, 25 May 2015 08:14 (eight years ago) link

pre-Mulholland Dr, an extremely mixed career (ie 50% shit)

topshelf morbs for acknowledging lynch's last two projects as his peak in the same breath as sneering at people interested in his next one

difficult listening hour, Monday, 25 May 2015 09:03 (eight years ago) link


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