More Dave Sim Batshittery.

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I kind of jealous you've been hated on by Sim ('pretend feminist' - that's bad right?). Probably means you're sane.

chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 10:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm dissed by Sim somehwere in his collected mentallism book, it's quite easy Joe -- you should try too

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

He calls me a "confirmed atheist" and imagines me agonizing over which wine to order with dinner at delicate snobbish Portland restaurants, both of which are pretty funny to anyone who knows me.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

cuz we know you're a Carlo Rossi man.

the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

To be honest, there was no slur specifically directed at me, it was more of a generalised "journalist are untrustworthy, lying scum -- why would i, dave sim, need publicity?" type-comment that prefaced his (faxed) answers to my questions.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, if Sim thinks that Douglas is a fake feminist, does this imply that on some level he thinks Douglas is just like him, but won't admit it in public or something? What's the context?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

It's hard to explain, because he's grasping so hard for something to be indignant about, but I gather that he doesn't see how somebody can be both an admirer of his work and not at all down with his agenda.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Dave is fascinating, but it's sort of circuitous and pointless (albeit fascinating) to wonder about what his "feelings" are. You need a ball of string to find your way back out.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i think that sim was saying that doug couldnt get his complimentary article PUBLISHED unless he pretended he was a feminist!!

shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't Mr Sim against the whole idea of 'feelings' as opposed to MANLY MANLY THORTS?

Vic F (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70797

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link

WTF WHY IS EVERYONE IN THAT THREAD LIKE "WOAH I WISH I COULD GO TO THAT" WTF?!?!?

city of gyros (chaki), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Because it's on Newsarama, the house of empty platitudes.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

DAVE SIM TO READ INGREDIENTS LIST FROM EVERY FOOD PRODUCT IN HIS KITCHEN

I am so totally there, dude.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope he reads out Cerebus 289/290 instead.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I like "No Preaching, just the scripture."

But, uh, Dave is not the most engrossing of live speakers.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Dave Sim fanboys in having douchebaggy taste non-shocker

Dan (Come On Now) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you saying those bible passages are douchebaggy choices or that Dave Sim is himself douchebaggy (I keep thinking douchebuggy, like a dunebuggy only for douches instead of dunes) or merely that, oh, I give up.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I am saying that if you are chomping at the bit to go see Dave Sim read Bible passages, you might have the tastes of a douchebag.

Dan (For Douches Instead Of Dunes????) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you mean: douchebaggery


Your search - douchebuggy - did not match any documents

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

To the Douchebuggy, BidetBoy!

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

test test

city of gyros (chaki), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Or perhaps a taste FOR douchebags.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Or perhaps a taste FOR douchebags.

That's called douchebuggery

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

But, uh, Dave is not the most engrossing of live speakers.

The weirdest things you run across on YouTube

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 25 August 2007 00:29 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Um... Judenhass... um... wow.

aldo, Monday, 21 April 2008 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

EXPLAIN PLZ

David R., Monday, 21 April 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

also, so not googling "Judenhass"

HI DERE, Monday, 21 April 2008 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, Judenhass is Dave's SUPER SECRET PROJECT #1 which is written by DAVE-THE-WANNABE-JEW rather than DAVE-THE-JEW-HATER and is a series of hyper-realistic (think Raymond school) images of Jews in the concentration camps backed out by text from world leaders (the Americans come out particularly badly in the WWII era) and 'great' thinkers through history about how the Jews are a blight on civilisation.

It's a very, very difficult work to read and, in fact, to critique. I think everyone should read it, but I can't (for the moment) think of a reason why.

aldo, Monday, 21 April 2008 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I think everyone should read it

I have literally zero desire to do so.

chap, Monday, 21 April 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I believe that is what they call a 'truth bomb'

Oilyrags, Monday, 21 April 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd argue that it's utterly critique-proof, actually.

And I didn't think it was all that secret, since previews of it have been floating around the internet for nearly two months now. Hell, I read the whole of it more than a month ago at a local shop (one of the preview copies that were circulated early to build retailer support.)

Matt M., Monday, 21 April 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Has anyone read (I think it was called) "Glamorpuss"? His satirical (presumably) look at fashion magazines? Pretty weird prospect...

Niles Caulder, Saturday, 3 May 2008 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, except it isn't really. It's Dave doing something like Eddie Campbell was trying in Egomania with his 'History Of Comedy', it's Dave's version of the history and development of the Raymond School. It's actually pretty interesting, and very nice to look at (because it's Dave playing drirectly to his artistic strengths).

Definitely worth buying at the moment if you like that sort of thing.

Also, I missed that I should have responded above - SUPER SECRET PROJECT #1 was how Dave was referring to it in development, sorry, I wasn't implying nobody knew about it.

aldo, Saturday, 3 May 2008 08:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I really kinda dig it.

I just wrote this on my tumblr:

Unfortunately for me, there is an implied bargain in comic art: The presence of words juxtaposed with pictures draws the natural inference on the part of the reader that both together add up to a sequential narrative.

Flipping through the pages in a comic-book store, you’re going to think that this is a comic strip.

A natural inference which I’m making use of by putting my narration into these word balloons, thus creating the illusion that this is a comic-art story instead of what it is: A Raymond and Prentice “slide show” - third rate (at best) compared to their own but, outside of their extant original artwork, the only place where you can see what the “look” was made up of.

Dave Sim, on page 9 of Glamourpuss #1.

I bought it on a perverse whim — I’ve yet to read Cerebus, but I was fascinated by what his new comic-book appeared to be: A parodic serial about the world of high fashion, created by a man who is largely understood to be a disturbed misogynist.

As you might have gleaned from this quote (I wish I could have just scanned from the page, but I don’t currently own a scanner), Glamourpuss is something very different, and much more strange. It’s basically a sketchbook in which Sim either replicates drawings by his favorite photo-realist cartoonists — Al Williamson, Alex Raymond, John Prentice, Stan Drake, Neal Adams — or draws images taken from (mostly current) fashion magazines in the style. The illustrations are arranged like a typical sequential comic, and accompanied by Sim’s musings on the history of the style and its artists, and an explanation of the project. There’s definitely some fashion parody, but most of the humor is quite self-deprecating.

Glamourpuss is self-indulgent to the extreme, but the artwork is gorgeous, and Sim’s writing is very engaging if you’re the type of person who tends to be fascinated by the process of obsessive artists.

Mr. Perpetua, Saturday, 3 May 2008 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.inkstuds.com/wp-content/scan.jpg

Jordan, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Ow my brain.

chap, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

that's amazing

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Lowest, most subhuman form of life, surely.

chap, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

So he's not denying that he's a misogynist. He just wants you to protest the designation.

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

This guy.

Abbott, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I like the review of Glamourpuss that was all, "Why do we scream at Greg Horn for tracing, but when Dave Sim does it without even having a story attached, it's art!"

Do I mean Greg Horn? Greg Land? Something like that. The guy who traces porn, anyway.

James Morrison, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Land has more blatantly traced in the past. Greg Horn's work is just static and dull.

Matt M., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link

That letter is HIsterical

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

The man's got years of lunacy left in him yet. he should give up comics from now on and concentrate on his inimitable brand of total-immersion performance art.

chap, Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

http://gocomics.com/poochcafe/2009/03/13/

Guest appearance by Cerebus

Thrills as Cheap as Gas (Oilyrags), Friday, 13 March 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

crossposted from the ILE Cerebus thread --

'Cerebus' Creator Dave Sim Contemplates 'Career End Point' And Economic 'Doomsday Scenario'

How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:21 (eleven years ago) link

Glamourpuss seemed interesting, but for one or two issues, not 26.

I wonder if his self-image as a Creator is going to stop him seeking illustration jobs - that would be a shame.

I'm curious about how well Judenhass sold - it seemed that if he could keep focussed then he could still put out amazing work - though obviously it was never going to be knocking anything off the top of the charts.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 8 September 2012 08:23 (eleven years ago) link

(D'oh I should finish the article first - 10,000 sales of Judenhass)

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 8 September 2012 08:28 (eleven years ago) link

Glamourpuss was up and down - the Zootanapuss 'real women look like this' stuff was a weird and, dare I say it, FEMINIST diversion for Dave. The death of Alex Raymond piece has become a bizarre conspiracy theory about how it was all Stan Drake's fault because of professional jealousy. And the letters page was just crazy, you couldn't work out what was really happening and what was Dave writing to (and arguing with) himself.

I've been part of the C&S digitisation Kickstarter and Dave's been making it pretty clear there that he's DONE done with comics. The archive of updates for that is fascinating reading, Dave's being more honest about his career than he probably ever has; how he views himself as a failure and feels guilty for encouraging people into self-publishing too, because they're also doomed to failure. You also get to find out what he knows about Twitter amongst other things. Basically he used to go into a coffee shop that had free wifi and type till they threw him out.

passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Saturday, 8 September 2012 10:43 (eleven years ago) link


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