Bjork: DEBUT vs. HOMOGENIC

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i hear ya

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

My rank would be something like:

Medulla = Vespertine > Homogenic >> Post = Selmasongs >> Debut

Medulla and Vespertine are like companion albums to me...

I feel like one of those crazy Bjork fans from the 4um lol.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

u like that twee fantastical bjork dontcha

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

remix of 'oceania' with kelis >>>> everything else on medúlla (which i pretty much love, at a distance)

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

There's nothing you can hum on Medulla, therefore it's my least favorite.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, I hear ya too.

I wasn't trying to make you fit with that cliche (like I said, not personal) but I've seen it played out far too many times now...

Medulla is -always- far easier to go back and listen to than I imagine, and the sequencing is often effective enough but somehow it just doesn't flow like it could have(?) overall. It takes a bit more effort than her other records, it's not without it's rewards though. Maybe the songcraft took a bit of a back seat to the sonics (for me) in too many places. I dunno, it IS a great album regardless!

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

oh c'mon you can hum 'Oceania' fine.

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i can hear that too, for sure, fandango - i was listening to medulla once and thinking, this is soo great and crafty, i just wish there was a little bit more attention to the sonics

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

You can hum "Oceania"! WTF.

Debut is really nothing special when compared to any of her other albums; the only song on it I ever am in the mood to listen to is "Big Time Sensuality". Conversely, "Bachelorette" is easily one of the greatest songs ever written. So, in this comparison, Homogenic all the way.

As far as comparing all of Bjork's albums is concerned, she has never released anything as consistently great as Post. Aside from "Army Of Me", that album is perfectly conceived and sequenced.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

'army of me' is amazing though! i like pretty much everything on post but it does feel erratic, zigzagging hither and thither, not quite as coherent as anything else bjork's released. so er the opposite of dan then

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

it is kind of erratic

and i like army of me too

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

but i like how post treads the line between clean, beat-driven production and the soundscapiness of homogenic

and isobel is so cool

oh god and it has hyperballad on it

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

My fav song on Post is "Enjoy" or "The Modern Things"

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

bjork is something akin to a 21st century david bowie except more consistently engaging for my personal tastes.

― roger goodell (gear), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes! "Enjoy" bumps-'n'-grinds!

I really do love Homogenic too; on many days "Joga" is my favorite Bjork ballad.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

on many days 'jóga' is my FAVOURITE SONG IN THE WORLD

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i love the bump n grind

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i know joga is like

it makes you like

crumble

― surmounter (rra123), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Debut > Post

it's close though, "nothing special" wtf!

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

somehow, I still don't own Debut. needless to say: Homogenic (which I still think is the best Bjork record)

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 25 January 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

My fav song on Post is "Enjoy"

OTM

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 25 January 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

post is all about the hyperballad, all about the army of me, all about the headphones.

and hummalongability is massively overrated.

― m the g (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 25 January 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

hummalongability and soundscapiness are kind of opposites - there's a lot to both.

― surmounter (rra123), Friday, 26 January 2007 00:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I disagree about "Debut" being nothing special compared to the rest of her solo work (though I still love you, djperry). The strings on Venus as a Boy! The "ooohs" on "Come To Me"! So many special moments.

Anyhow, I adore both, but Homogenic is ultimately more beautiful.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Friday, 26 January 2007 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Hunter is one of the best opening songs on any LP I can think of. And I can think of a lot. Literally dozens.

― Petroski (petroski), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Homogenic by a comfortable margin.

― sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 26 January 2007 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link

There are literally dozens of good opening songs?!

― Zachary S (Zach S), Friday, 26 January 2007 06:01 (seventeen years ago) link

homogenic has a couple of my very favourite songs by her. but debut is more consistent and stacked full of great songs.

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

No, there are literally dozens of LPs I can think of. Take your interrobang back.

― Petroski (petroski), Saturday, 27 January 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

there are 84 records

― roger goodell (gear), Saturday, 27 January 2007 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm also one of those guys whose favourite Björk album is Medúlla, and to be honest, I think my love for it fits in pretty spot-on with what Fandango was saying. It really does sound like nothing else I've ever heard, and it's a sound that I keep coming back to. There are a lot of great facets to Björk's music, but here she just went all the way in creating something completely alien and fascinating and to me that makes it her best album and one of the best of the decade. I'm a big fan of Björk in general though, and I still listen to other records lots (though I haven't heard all of them, including Debut.)

― aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:51 (seventeen years ago) link

there are literally dozens

this had better be an arrested development reference or i want my money back

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Saturday, 27 January 2007 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

this had better be an arrested development reference or i want my money back

Oh, shit. yeah, it probably is. I can't keep up with the kids today and their pop culture references.

― Zachary S (Zach S), Saturday, 27 January 2007 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

um... you have to hear Debut!

i now officially own Medulla so i can give it a proper listen.

― surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 27 January 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i sometimes feel like the sound of homogenic is slightly too homogenic, actually - like i wish she had changed up the texture a bit more. she did a good job of that on Post - isobel comes close to sounding like it could be on homogenic, but the soundscapes on the album at large are pretty varied.

― surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 27 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

has there been a bjork album poll?

― plax (ico), Monday, 2 August 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

i like that i started this thread. hi plax! i am listening to debut, so long since i put it on. it's so clean

― surm, Monday, 13 January 2014 05:31 (ten years ago) link

#BigTimeSensuality

― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Monday, 13 January 2014 06:24 (ten years ago) link

yup. my favorite song in the 90s.

― surm, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

Debut.

http://devonrecordclub.com/2014/11/04/bjork-debut-round-73-nicks-choice/

― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 10:42 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

how can you even pit these against each other, homogenic owns Debut.

― Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

this aged well https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/debut-197568/

― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link

I hadn’t considered the fact that old school rockism was Europhobic on top of everything else.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

"Rather than sticking to rock & roll, Debut is painfully eclectic."

Christ, even for rockism, that's... unsubtle.

― Soundslike, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

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