in every 'new yorker' short story ever...

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32) Someone makes cultural or grammatical mistake in a charming way on final page miraculously restores protagonist's faith in humanity

Abbott, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I rarely feel like the protagonist of a NY story has the balls either to renounce or regain faith in humanity

Hurting 2, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

@ 30: 'for there, on her desk, lay Nai Nai's jade bracelet, polished and gleaming proud for the first time the events of Nanking seventy years prior.'

remy bean, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

first time since

remy bean, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

33) desultory and minimal knowledge of Important Historical Event gleaned from wikipedia and a high school textbook.

remy bean, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

34) people haunted by something

34a) haunted by death of family member

max, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link

35) Dude pops boner, feels bad about it

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link

36) adultery

Mr. Que, Monday, 21 January 2008 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link

there are frequent short stories in the new yorker these days that don't conform to stereotype, to be fair.

still, lol at "Claymer."

horseshoe, Monday, 21 January 2008 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I never really saw anybody use "anhedonia" except when referring to the original title of Annie Hall.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 21 January 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Does anyone remember a television commercial where there was a redneck in a hunting outfit with a shotgun walking in the woods and saying "They say a revenuer come up in the these parts, he might get better but he never get well"? You couldn't figure exactly what it was a commercial for until the very end when the Yankee (or Midwestern) voiceover man said "from the story 'Moonshine' in the January New Yorker." Like they were trying to change it up, get the naysayers to lose the scent of their trail.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 21 January 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

2) effete professor mulls lustily over graduate student and her lovely paper on Kafka.

Recommendations for actual similar stories, plz

milo z, Monday, 21 January 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link

See: whatever story of Philip Roth's became The Ghost Writer.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 21 January 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Although I think that was in The Atlantic.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 21 January 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

33) desultory and minimal knowledge of Important Historical Event gleaned from wikipedia and a high school textbook.

-- remy bean, Monday, January 21, 2008 1:42 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

as opposed to ilx poster remy bean who saw his buddies die face down in the muck at da nang

and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Mark it a zero, Smokey.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 21 January 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

"I never really saw anybody use "anhedonia" except when referring to the original title of Annie Hall."

i think of jarboe too. ex-swans artiste. she had an album called *Anhedoniac*.

scott seward, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

sadly, if it isn't by lorrie moore or alice munro, i don't read ANY short stories in the new yorker. i glance at them in every issue. my suspicions (usually) confirmed that i don't want to read whatever it is. and i LOVE short stories.

scott seward, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the Jonathan Lethem ones that have run recently, although they don't exactly buck the NY genre.

Jordan, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

33) desultory and minimal knowledge of Important Historical Event gleaned from wikipedia and a high school textbook.

-- remy bean, Monday, January 21, 2008 1:42 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

as opposed to ilx poster remy bean who saw his buddies die face down in the muck at da nang

-- and what, Monday, January 21, 2008 1:53 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

wrong, confrontation douchebag. as opposed to considered research.

remy bean, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Looks like voiceover man said "'Moonshine' by Alec Wilkinson, in the August New Yorker."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

37) Judgmental pet.

Eppy, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

38) Sex as evidence of character's patheticness.

Eppy, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link

39) Someone running their hands through their hair.

Eppy, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:57 (sixteen years ago) link

40) Body image issues.

Eppy, Monday, 21 January 2008 22:57 (sixteen years ago) link

41) The Unbridgeable Gulf of Class Difference

rogermexico., Monday, 21 January 2008 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link

42) Young parent looks at her child and realizes she has already failed to be the mother she promised herself she would be.

Clay, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:46 (sixteen years ago) link

43) Aging sculptor looks at a recent work and realizes he has ultimately failed to become the artist he promised himself he would be.

Clay, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha, all of this reminds me that Gilbert Sorrentino is sort of the anti-New Yorker writer.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:52 (sixteen years ago) link

In that he kind of covers the same material but with an additional cruel and mocking godlike Fassbinderesque p.o.v that provides comic "relief."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:54 (sixteen years ago) link

44) Particular form of reticence typical of character's region/ ethnicity/ gender/ generation is presented, vaguely frowned upon.

mulla atari, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I have never read a New Yorker short story, and yet, after reading this thread, it is as if I had read them all.

moley, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 02:05 (sixteen years ago) link

In this interview Gil S. mentions the New Yorker briefly in Item 11, but also talks about similar writing elsewhere, especially item 6.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 02:26 (sixteen years ago) link

nuance masquerading as epiphany, epiphany masquerading as peripety

M.V., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link

there are frequent short stories in the new yorker these days that don't conform to stereotype, to be fair.

I was going to say this in a ruder, bitchier, more self-aggrandizing way

nabisco, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link

good restraint

Eppy, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Well yeah, that's partly what I meant by this (xpost):

usually think of The New Yorker Short Story as a genre that includes the ones by lesser writers but from which the better ones are exempt

-- Hurting 2, Monday, January 21, 2008 1:14 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:07 (sixteen years ago) link

What, you got a story in there, nabisco?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess it's time to link to this relevant thread.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:36 (sixteen years ago) link

45) character quietly repeats meaningless phrase to himself under his breath, as if it mattered, but he knew it did not

J.D., Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

That sounds more like something from The Twilight Zone

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually all of work pretty well when considered as fragments of Twilight Zone episodes.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Cold War sci-fi paranoia preferable to unnameable ennui. Especially when enacted by future sitcom stars.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:46 (sixteen years ago) link

what the fuck are you talking about?

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:47 (sixteen years ago) link

most of these are actually pretty ominous when removed from context

remy bean, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry, bleeding over from this thread.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Hm. Looks like Salter published plenty of stuff in The New Yorker, so maybe I should put a lid on it. I guess the strategy is if you don't like something you say "typical New Yorker fare" but if you do like it you say "it just happened to be published in The New Yorker." In any case, didn't mean to derail thread. Am enjoying these, including number 45.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Some of these are Belew-era King Crimson song lyrics in sum.

Abbott, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 04:15 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/features/2007/12/10/071210fi_fiction_egan

This story is totally typical new yorker fare but I still enjoyed it a lot.

31g, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 07:37 (sixteen years ago) link

The golden thread that links Junot Diaz and William Trevor.

Eazy, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 07:38 (sixteen years ago) link


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