S: the theatrical cutD: *only* being able to have the extended cut on DVD for a long time, but that's thankfully now corrected
Alien and Aliens are different takes on standard tropes that were successful precisely Scott and crew on the one hand and Cameron and crew on the other were able to hotwire them into something which was so ridiculously successful -- commercially and in terms of effective filmmaking -- that each in their own single-handedly established a slew of new cliches. Which may seem a strange thing to credit them for, but *how* many films since then have essentially tried to be one or the other, borrowing set pieces, concepts, dialogue practically and more? And none are nearly as good as these two.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
that's pretty much the subtext of EVERY ilxor post you've ever written, alex!
:-)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Brilliantly parodied in the MST3K movie. So I will have nothing said against the original.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link
It's certainly the best-*looking*.
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/greatmovies/alien.html
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Because he's a COOL ROBOT!
Oh, there's no talking to you.
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:54 (nineteen years ago) link
"ALIEN 3 is one of the best-looking bad movies I have ever seen. It is a triumph of art direction and a disaster of screenwriting, and the eyes appreciate it more than the mind. Watching it in the moment, we are absorbed. After it's over, we are disappointed, because what actually happens in the movie is so much less interesting than where it happens and how it looks while it's happening."
http://www.scifimoviepage.com/alien_20.html
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link
The fat man nails it!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link
you can't tell me those flamethrowers weren't useful
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.planetavp.com/amr/films/a2/carriehennat22.jpg
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Doesn't this picture make you just want to root for the aliens?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Of course they were useful. Flame-throwers are damn useful tools. Hell, I could certainly use one right now. But why would a space-age forklift come equipped with one? That's my question.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link
(Winona is at her loveliest in that movie, though.)
― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link