i admit that i am in fact gregg easterbrook
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link
(not totally sure who gregg easterbrook is)
a distinctly atrocious espn person
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link
he sounds good
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link
er, former espn person
brookings institute fellow responsible for the most tedious football writing ever published
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link
and that's when i wrote in my notebook, 'thread over'
― mookieproof, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link
close but this is actually me irl
http://i.imgur.com/uxIziBR.jpg
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
http://loudgif.com/?g=http://i.imgur.com/uxIziBR.jpg&v=i_kF4zLNKio&s=5
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link
lol ty, i feel like we've accomplished something here
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 May 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link
beautiful and terrible to behold
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
"trap queen" is naturally the beautiful part
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link
There was a gap in the market for middlebrow sports docs and bill was smart enough to realize that and push for the project, to find directors to give it some street cred, and to fight to keep it on the air after the initial run. Now ESPN has a product they can put on Netflix. The rest of their shows are built around the present day and have no shelf life. Plus, 30 for 30 won ESPN a Peabody and a few other awards, which are nice feathers in your cap for when people say you're the devil. So they have an middlebrow prestige show that people actually watch and from which they continue to make money, and Simmons made it happen. And every hour they air is an hour where Rick Bayless's brother isn't saying something racist.
― polyphonic, Monday, 11 May 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link
Does not compute, where's your bow tie man?
― Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Monday, 11 May 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link
Rick Bayless's brother
lol i kiss u poly
― Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Monday, 11 May 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link
i'd love for simmons to go to deadspin and demand they fire whoever "albert burneko" is
― k3vin k., Monday, 11 May 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link
they cant fire albert burneko... he follows me on twitter
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
hating on simmons like that is just like...bless your heart man. gotta churn out those $20 a pop columns somehow i guess
― k3vin k., Monday, 11 May 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link
if someone did a comprehensive simmons take down i wld be there for it but yeah deadspin been zinging him so long its hard to feel anything abt it
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
who am i joking i am there for the zings too
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
what would a simmons "takedown" even consist of that that article didn't already address? that he leans on his old schtick a little too much? ok. he's enormously successful, produces quality content (in one form or another), and seems to be a decent guy. it's not like he's whitlock. i mean i get that he's the sort of guy a nobody like "albert burneko" has to punch up at, but at least come hard if you're gonna come at him. you think simmons, or anyone who reads him, gives a shit about this dude's "I graduated from a journalism school and THIS i tell you is poor journalism!" really? get a life man. or at least find someone worthy of the takedown
― k3vin k., Monday, 11 May 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
dik what a takedown wld look like but i am ready to find out
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
simmons shd open a bar and blog abt the bar imo
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link
it's just laughable coming from deadspin given how their (arguably) best-known writer is a fusion of simmons and...idk the worst matt taibbi columns, not to mention if anyone thinks deadspin has a vested interest in the quality of sports writing and /that's/ why they're mocking simmons or pretty much anyone else they mock...chuckle
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link
there is nothing remotely edgy or fresh about saying that simmons is repetitive/schticky/etc
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link
i guess they could dredge up old casual-sexist sports guy shit that is admittedly a bad look but he hasn't been doing much of that in some time
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
examining what his schtick is what it means from a cultural standpoint how its evolved how that fits in with espn corporate culture etc cld be interesting
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, May 11, 2015 3:21 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
maybe he should do what he (allegedly) boasted about the possibility of doing and come back to boston to do that, people would eat that shit up
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
he's enormously successful and seems like kind of a dick; what is deadspin for if not that
welp, rick reilly and his readers don't give a shit that he sucks, no point in even bringing it up
― mookieproof, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
xxp agreed, but that would involve work & thought rather than 900 words that say nothing more substantive "LOL simmdog u homer dummy" and some c&ping as is the (usual) gawkblog takedown standard
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
for me simmons is very much apiece with the common current prosumer approach of like the onion av club ppl who pretend to know things who dont know anything and see the world as primarily existing in the context of craft and narrative, which is interesting as simmons started out as a i dont know anything guy
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link
Drew Magary is pretty funny though, I'll admit it
― frogbs, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link
i thought it was for sports-tmz shit about athletes at first and that's quite entertaining every once in a while the same way fast food is good in moderation, plus the occasional specialty-item in the form of a feature or something that's actually good, but now they have extremely transparent delusions of righteousness or morality or quality
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link
yeah deadspin is for finding out that somehow chris christie spent eighty grand in taxpayer money on stadium nachos
― balls, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
xp the why your team sucks series is fun i can't lie but he's just as aggressively schticky as simmons but puts a lot of (literal and figurative) airquotey bullshit around it so readers who are suckers for that shit are like "oh lol it's meta and edgy"
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
(xxp actually my bad)
― balls, Monday, May 11, 2015 3:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
intuitively we all knew this tho
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link
omg I thought you guys were making up that Chris Christie thing.
― Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Monday, 11 May 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
haha nope
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link
to be fair, they're very good nachosactually they are not
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 May 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link
for me simmons is very much apiece with the common current prosumer approach of like the onion av club ppl who pretend to know things who dont know anything and see the world as primarily existing in the context of /craft/ and /narrative/, which is interesting as simmons started out as a /i dont know anything/ guy
The whole concept of a sportswriter who claims expertise on every sport is totally ridiculous and needs to be shitcanned
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link
Bleacher report/TNT seems like the best fit for Simmons
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link
Whoa balls used shitcanned too, hive mind ilh shit
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
i don't think he "claims expertise" on anything other than maybe the NBA, but he definitely talks about everything at great length, which is not precisely the same thing
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link
it is sometimes insufferable and sometimes w/e
idk it's like who caaaaares, there are sportswriters out there who are bigoted or are genuinely vicious and not just more or less harmlessly dumb, this act of pointing at the foibles of simmons like, "SEE? SEE?" as if those doing the pointing are having these brave truth-to-power moments of insight that will really /tell it like it is mannnn/, is fucking laughable
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
um no its actually very cool
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link
If you make the pronouncements he does about sports he doesn't really follow (boxing, hockey, etc) you are implicitly claiming expertise. I guess you could just say he's talking out of his ass but claiming expertise is a nicer way to put it.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link
It's not like he's the only guy who does it, it's a long established role for sports writers to be an oracle about every fucking sport
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link
feel like thats just standard sports writer behavior and while not defendable is just kinda boring and typical simmons sends it over the top by fusing that tendency with the most begging ass bro naratives
― lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link
Idk I find it kind of outrageous as a fan of niche sports when some dickhead lies about being a lifelong scholar of it. Less boring and more nails on chalkboard.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link