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lol "The Rip (Off)"

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Saturday, 28 March 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

The bit at the end is actually really good. I might pick up the album when it's out. I never thought I'd say that about THE HORRORS! FFS.

The look of the band in the video is TOTALLY lifted from Loop, circa "Heavens End". I mean that could actually BE Loop, circa "Heaven's End", if you turn the music down a bit.

I am actually a bit sick of "isn't shy of hiding its influences", it gets in the way of the music, has done for a while.

Have you heard Loop "Fade Out", Louis? I sort of suspect you might like it a bit. They actually COVERED "Mother Sky" instead of knocking it off.

Loop "Heavens!" "End" ;)

Pashmina, Saturday, 28 March 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I am actually a bit sick of "isn't shy of hiding its influences", it gets in the way of the music, has done for a while.

I'm completely with you on this, but for a band I thought were irredeemable, this is some startling proficiency and crucially they meld the influences in a fairly original (well, striking) way.

Not really heard Loop. Must rectify.

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Saturday, 28 March 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Here you go:

"Fade Out" is such a fucking good album, so relentless & mechanical in its feel. It's 20 years old.

Pashmina, Saturday, 28 March 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Somewhere between surprised and amazed to find that the Horros were capable of this.

Actually, I don't believe they are capable of this, and maybe Barrow will do to them what Andy Weatherall did for Primal Scream.

Matt DC, Saturday, 28 March 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i doubt they pull much of it off live anyhow

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 28 March 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

In the latest issue of Platform mag there's a picture of Faris's bedroom. Right at the front of his pile of records is Loop's A Gilded Eternity album. He also owns a golliwog.

The one time I saw the Horrors they were so boring and uncharismatic that I left during the second song. I'll be amazed if they can play that new track live.

CosMc (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Not really feeling that track. Too much crappy London scene post-punk and his vocals are unbearable.

CosMc (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

"too much crappy london scene post-punk and the vocals are unbearable" prob will be what's carved on the gravestone of britisher rock music.

Pashmina, Saturday, 28 March 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I like this. I suppose it's in part because it surprised me too that a band I thought would just be some dull garage rock band forever are at least showing some ambition. It wasn't so much the first bit sounding like Can or Neu that got me, but more that the later bit sounds like Klaus Schulze. Different enough for me not to be bothered.

Keith, Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

The second half (well, and the groovy FX-pedalled transition) is predominantly what wins my accolades and listenership, although the first sets it up well.

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah me too, but it needs the build up to be effective.

Keith, Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's what I said! :D Although now I'm finding myself, bass guitar slung, skipping to the four-minute mark and playing along.

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe the album will just be them reinterpreting the whole of the last Portishead album in a Krautrock style.

Actually that would be kind of brilliant.

Matt DC, Saturday, 28 March 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

This is still so epic...someone's suggested The Chameleons (and to be more precise "Second Skin") as a reference point...he isn't too far wide of the mark, I guess.

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Sunday, 29 March 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

take that back please

rio (r1o natsume), Sunday, 29 March 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not my observation! I'm just reporting it, throwing it out there. Something about the backing synth right at the end, I suppose, and the fact it changes tack halfway thru

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Sunday, 29 March 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

So, OK, this is way more interesting than I imagined The Horrors were capable of being, but even so, why the fucking god awful goth singing? Can no one groove AND have fun instead of being a doomy cunt?

Oh. SFA can. Class dismissed.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 29 March 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Interestingly, it's this vs. "Cardiff In The Sun" for my song of the year thus far, and they're both 8-minute Kraut-outs, the one all doomy, synthy and redemptive, the other all light, airy and utterly blissful

As for the vocals, you may have a point re: being perhaps a bit TOO wrapped up in their own dourness, but I think the vocal style works WITH the musical narrative, especially those buried out-of-tune vocals in the second half...they go from dour to completely lost, completely overwhelmed by sound...I think it works really nicely there.

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Sunday, 29 March 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Damo Suzuki didn't sound like a doomy cunt.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 29 March 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah but you gotta admit the vocal slight return amidst the synth storm is really well-executed

Stop relegating Hull you miserable gits! (country matters), Sunday, 29 March 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

The 80s electro keyboard in Sea Within A Sea is totally ace but I'm not mega thrilled by the rest of the album on initial listen

Climate Of Basshunter (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 March 2009 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I like it, especially the second part. Though I liked the first album too, it was good fun.

zeus, Monday, 30 March 2009 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, so you mean they've hit us with the trump card early on and they're kinda hoping the rest surfs on its wake?

Damn sweet trump card mind.

Zayatte Mondatta (country matters), Monday, 30 March 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

'Who Can Say' is great, complete with po-faced spoken section!

Definitely hearing The Rip in Sea Within A Sea. And plenty of Psychedelic Furs and Chameleons in the rest of the albu,/

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i like 'primary colours', nothing groundbreakingly original but ive been enjoying listening to it

vain_bowers, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.nme.com/layout/magImage.php

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I am listening to this album again now. I really want to like it more than I do! It does sound quite a lot like Loop, albeit if they'd never listened to any heavy rock records

National Lampoon's Minimal House (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

This album is sounding pretty great actually, but the 'ZOMG they have ripped up the rulebook and thrown it out of the window!' hype is going to be insufferable. As a patchwork of very obvious influences though it's enjoyable enough.

Matt DC, Saturday, 11 April 2009 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Despite being slavishly derivative, I did quite like their first EP. Full first album wasn't bad, but can't remember the last time I played it.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 11 April 2009 12:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Citation from the DiS review: "The Horrors have done the one thing no other hyped to the heavens British guitar band has been able to do in the past ten years; they’ve given birth to a sophomore album that drastically improves upon its predecessor"

Discuss. But perhaps they're right.

zeus, Saturday, 11 April 2009 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Interesting. Hard to think of exceptions right now. I was underwhelmed by their first album. First listen of the new one was entertaining, if just for the spot-the-unexpected-influence game. Sounds like Geoff Barrow had some fun injecting some inspiration. Still seems a bit awkward and silly to me, which means it's probably going to be a huge mega-seller. It's fun, maybe I'll enjoy repeated listens, we'll see.

Slavering review: http://www.clashmusic.com/reviews/the-horrors-primary-colours

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Some talk about the new album here:

New album by the Horrors out today....

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

General consensus: pretty interesting.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I missed that revive from a month ago. Liked that video a lot better than what I had heard from the previous album. A pretty faceless take on Can like others were sayin, but surprisingly enjoyable. But I guess if I wanted Can w/o Damo Suzuki there are actual Can albums w/o Damo Suzuki...

SQUIRREL WITH A PEOPLE FACE (╓abies), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't really get behind the implication that it's inherently more musically... distinguished to do an album that's a bite of Can and Loop or whatever than one that's a bite of The Cramps and The Birthday Party or whatever. Like all of those are more or less canonically esteemed bands in equal measure, y'know?

display mane (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Exactly.

Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree, but it's no fun to listen to repeated remakes of Cramps records (or for that matter Can, or whoever). Even if they've taken off some equally derivative sources as from their first record, they've done so in a pretty interesting way I think.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Or to put it another way the fact that they are biting krautrock and drone rather than just garage rock shows that they want to develop.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

This album is gash. It only got to 25 so hopefully they'll get dropped again.

CosMc (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i liked the single that sampled 'mother sky'. it was good.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd be really, really curious to hear the reactions to this album had it come from some no-names with no previous history.

homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't felt the urge to go back to this album. I have enough records that sound a bit like this, I really don't need another one, especially with shitey goth vocals all over it.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't really get behind the implication that it's inherently more musically... distinguished to do an album that's a bite of Can and Loop or whatever than one that's a bite of The Cramps and The Birthday Party or whatever. Like all of those are more or less canonically esteemed bands in equal measure, y'know?

― display mane (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:33 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That's pretty OTM. So they've done a better job aping Can than they did the Cramps. Big deal.

SQUIRREL WITH A PEOPLE FACE (╓abies), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

hang on, the only place where they ape Can on this record is on the first third of one song

sorry for british (country matters), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, MBV and Spiritualized have much more of a case in the legal department imo

sorry for british (country matters), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I have only heard this one song lol.

SQUIRREL WITH A PEOPLE FACE (╓abies), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link

it doesn't sound much like can except for the beat tbh

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

LIKE KANYE

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

It's a really good song, is what people are ignoring :P

(And the fact is, the best things about it have nothing to do with Can, and a helluva lot to do with uh er Portishead lolz)

sorry for british (country matters), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

http://thehorrors.co.uk/images/TheHorrorsSkying.jpg

piscesx, Monday, 13 June 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

that video is cringeworthy and embarassing. gothgaze? i dont know what the fuck any more.

jumpskins, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

Sea Within A Sea is still just such a great bit of music, right?

Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Thursday, 5 March 2015 10:21 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Any love for the side project Cat's Eyes with Faris and Rachel Zeffira? New album "Treaure House" is evocative of Broadcast with a kraut twist ("Names on the Mountains") and Shangri-Las ("Drag") with other 60s influences and elements from Rachel's classical background. Highly recommended.

Ross, Sunday, 5 June 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Well credit to them, they never seem to stay in the same place. Their new song is a full on exultant 80s synth-pop anthem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e38KoYlHDTA

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link

I like this band

calstars, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

in ghost colours

nxd, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link

surprised by how nice that is

ufo, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Never really listened to them before but enjoying the new album. Definite Cut Copy vibes

groovypanda, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 07:38 (six years ago) link

Last track is awesome.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 13:15 (six years ago) link

cat's eyes are wickedly underrated...probably should check out the horrors i guess

Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 13:48 (six years ago) link

Enjoyably bland

calstars, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link

Out.

The album's quite good and ending it on "Something To Remember Me By" is a smart touch. They are protean in a good way -- I remember seeing ads for their first album ten years back and while they haven't become avant-garde experimentalists or anything, they have a knack for setting their mind to try certain things that work more often than not, and they're definitely not the band they were. At their best they suggest a slight -- I emphasize slight -- equivalent to early to mid 80s Cure/Siouxsie in a key sense: trying different things within their pop form just to see if they can make it work. Very much looking forward to whenever the next tour might be -- they're only playing NYC for now.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link

I hadnt checked them out since "Primary Colours", which I really liked a the time. The new stuff sounds nice, refers to a lot of my personal hall-of-famers and yet it all sounds so slight. A weird feeling that despite the fact that I *should* like this, it just seems very pointless

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link

classic hair

brimstead, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 23:46 (six years ago) link


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