bill simmons IS bill simmons IN the book of BASKETBALL

didn't want to do it; felt i owed it to him

give it to Olberman imo

yeah pretty rough for nba/sox/pats/godfather fans, too bad they'll no longer get the inside scoop
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I'm w Kevin on this. Use grantland like he does.

grantland is pretty bad imo, there are a few good writers on there but overall it perfectly represents the middlebrow quality signifying nothing ethos of hacks everywhere, there doesnt seem to be any sort of vision behind it besides the vague idea of making something "good"

shd be noted too they publish some of the most remarkably pop culture begging ass face basketball writing ever written on a regular basis

like u want to read a bunch of grown men get all wound up about a vine of a vicious dunk and then compare it to some game of thrones gifs grantland.com is the website 4 u

I mean sometimes there's nothing wrong with that, and sometimes you end up with the enshrined memeification of dion waiters, it's a fine line

grantland is pretty bad imo, there are a few good writers on there but overall it perfectly represents the middlebrow quality signifying nothing ethos of hacks everywhere, there doesnt seem to be any sort of vision behind it besides the vague idea of making something "good"

― lag∞n, Saturday, May 9, 2015 11:22 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shd be noted too they publish some of the most remarkably pop culture begging ass face basketball writing ever written on a regular basis

― lag∞n, Saturday, May 9, 2015 11:24 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like u want to read a bunch of grown men get all wound up about a vine of a vicious dunk and then compare it to some game of thrones gifs grantland.com is the website 4 u

― lag∞n, Saturday, May 9, 2015 11:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all of this

http://i.imgur.com/Ht5MKwZ.png

...

of the many things you can knock grantland for I fail to see how a pun headline and a perfectly decent if not exactly earth shaking article in praise of tony allen is one of them

k

the amount of money simmons brings ESPN is probably a drop in their overall bucket.

^ this

roger goodell may be a monster, but game recognizes game so to speak, and the ceo of espn knows that the nfl is worth billions to them, and goodell (being a monster like himself) will doubtless crush any entity that even vaguely threatens his vastly profitable machine. so spinner obligingly crushed simmons as a gesture of good will toward goodell, as one monster to another. that's business, ladies and gentlemen.

Yea you don't stop to the lord god nfl and expect to come out clean in the end

all true i respect simmons for being a rebel and speaking truth to power in this case

and publicly beefing w yr evil employer is p cool / more ppl shd do it

roger goodell may be a monster, but game recognizes game so to speak, and the ceo of espn knows that the nfl is worth billions to them, and goodell (being a monster like himself) will doubtless crush any entity that even vaguely threatens his vastly profitable machine. so spinner obligingly crushed simmons as a gesture of good will toward goodell, as one monster to another. that's business, ladies and gentlemen.

― Aimless, Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:18 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no one should be celebrating this

i don't think the nfl had a whole lot to do with this decision on espn's part

spinner just wanted simmons to spend more time with his family?

who is spinner? what are you talking about?

sorry, the ceo of espn is skipper

aw sad that a dullard lost a gig

Damn, it's really hitting me now. No more podcasts. No more Guesss the Lines with Cousin Sal. No more mailbags. This really sucks. Fuck you, ESPN.

lolol

bill mad halftime wasnt longer my lord

He also seemed frustrated by what he considered the inadequate amount of time devoted to halftime, and other ancillary shows, and objected to slotting pre- and post-game coverage directly opposite big playoff games on other networks.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/05/inside-shocking-abrupt-divorce-bill-simmons-and-espn

my dvr says there is a new episode of the grantland basketball hour on tuesday but i'm guessing that is not going to happen. it would be great tho if they replaced him as host w/ someone and made jalen and lowe sit through it all like nothing happened.

that piece says the BS report might continue with a new host, which...

ya u know theyre gonna cant just let all those subscribers go

big steendriver report

The author of that story in Vanity fair seems to think that Simmons' criticism of Roger Goodell had a whole lot to do with his firing.

bill is sad
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--WUGsExgy--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1246882598124803732.jpg

:(

one thing thats weird abt this is the universal acclaim for the 30 for 30 series, like theyre alright prob better than ur average basic cable doc but nothing on level of what say pbs regularly produces and nowhere near a theatrical release, some of them ive seen have been down right bad like the loyola marymount one showing hank gathers collapsing in slow mo 100 times and only showing 5 seconds of game footage while spending a good chunk of the piece talking about their crazy exciting style of play

do tons of ppl watch them are they a huge ratings winner why do they merit such high praise

winning time, benji, bad boys, price of gold all really good imo

bad boys /is/ marred by its kid rock narration though :l

is it cause there has to be a non writing simmons endeavor writers can point and and be like this was successful otherwise ur just left with a money losing website and a flameout as a tv guy

or was espn paying him $5m a year to write infrequently and dispassionately

the podcast is v popular i guess but its hard to srsly argue for a pod even in our post serial reality

yeah there were some good ones and some bad ones, speaks to lowering standards for tv and sports coverage as much as anything. i wonder if some of the acclaim they got in the media was due to the fact that espn was funding the directors to pursue an idea and presentation of their choosing, seems like no particular style was dictated and espn was fairly hands-off.

i thought broke was really bad, jesus was that a missed opportunity.

mostly they kinda came off as boring ponderous behind the sports music

wait what are these awesome sports docs pbs regularly produces that i've been missing

that wld be cool, just meant docs generally

http://i.imgur.com/aUFn3yd.jpg

daddys nap time

yeah i think what alot of ppl liked about 30 for 30 was it wasn't ye olde ken burns baseball reverence/stories told a million times. different strokes for different folx though.

due to the fact that espn was funding the directors to pursue an idea and presentation of their choosing, seems like no particular style was dictated and espn was fairly hands-off.

thats definitely a huge part of why they were well-regarded, far as i can tell

the nelson george doc about magic johnson is pretty good, that and the others i named and four days in october (which is objectively a mediocre doc but, yknow, red sox #feelings) are all i've seen

i wasnt suggesting a ken bunrs style fwiw just pointing out that on a weekly basis frontline / nova / american experience do much high quality work than 30/30 which is much closer to a history channel/vh1 just standard not that great slapped together tv doc, they just seem totally unremarkable quality wise as well as style and subject matter

it wasn't ye olde ken burns baseball reverence/stories told a million times

― balls, Monday, May 11, 2015 12:05 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

none of them were exactly obscure subjects lol