2015 UK General Election campaign & aftermath discussion thread.

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At least I heard of 70% is what I heard last night. xp

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 09:28 (eight years ago) link

xyzzzz is broadly right about the mechanics, I think. but there are underlying truths that shd've been apparent years ago, and one positive of this election might be to convince a few more people of those truths. the Labour party as is offers no hope for radically changing economic policy in this country. the electoral system as is offers no hope for radically changing economic policy in this country.

what people choose to do next, other than to make special "Don't Forget It's Important to Vote" gifs for 2020, well it'll be unfun finding out

vote yay! for constitutional monarchy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 May 2015 09:33 (eight years ago) link

Not worried about ref. on Europe. See a fairly comfortable win and it would take Euro crisis ++ during any campaign to see that threatened in any way.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 09:34 (eight years ago) link

xp

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 09:34 (eight years ago) link

bye nigel

mark e, Friday, 8 May 2015 09:35 (eight years ago) link

never been so happy to see a conservative win a seat

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 8 May 2015 09:36 (eight years ago) link

a former ukipper no less

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 8 May 2015 09:36 (eight years ago) link

Farage not winning but if you put a pretty face on this they have become effectively the third party with a role to play in future elections. Sorry.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 09:37 (eight years ago) link

electoral reform and lowering of voting age please

conrad, Friday, 8 May 2015 09:41 (eight years ago) link

oh god the next leader will be chuka umunna won't it

If it's not Yvette Cooper I'll eat what's left of Paddy Ashdown's hat. Female leaders are officially a 'thing' now, and political morons will jump on whatever bandwagon's trundling by them. Plus,sorry but wtf is the big deal about Nicola Sturgeon?

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Friday, 8 May 2015 09:42 (eight years ago) link

Not even Farage failing can lift my spirits tbh.

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Friday, 8 May 2015 09:43 (eight years ago) link

Electoral reform? When UKIP got 3.5million votes? Scary prospect.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 May 2015 09:56 (eight years ago) link

but there are underlying truths that shd've been apparent years ago, and one positive of this election might be to convince a few more people of those truths. the Labour party as is offers no hope for radically changing economic policy in this country. the electoral system as is offers no hope for radically changing economic policy in this country.

You're such a softie NV w/the people will see it in the end :-)

Frankly we'll need more crisis, evictions, 'small government' for people's attitudes to even start to change. Syriza only came up when Greece was on its knees.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 09:57 (eight years ago) link

SNP supporter, guy I've known since he was 16, saying on Facebook that, " It's all good for us, because if thing's get really bad we're more likely to get independence". There's yer Nationalists for you.

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Friday, 8 May 2015 10:00 (eight years ago) link

no there's a guy on facebook you've known since he was 16

conrad, Friday, 8 May 2015 10:09 (eight years ago) link

latest bbc forecast: tories get 331 seats

yeovil knievel (NickB), Friday, 8 May 2015 10:12 (eight years ago) link

enough to 'finish the job'.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 10:13 (eight years ago) link

Watching the person from Telegraph now. "It wouldn't have mattered if Lab had won in Sctoland".

Actually if Labour had won in Scotland Labour would probably have taken quite a few marginals off the Tories too.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 10:24 (eight years ago) link

Farage resigning has cheered me up. A bit

paolo, Friday, 8 May 2015 10:31 (eight years ago) link

and that makes three

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 8 May 2015 10:35 (eight years ago) link

If SNP hadn't won in Scotland, or looked like they were going to for ages, they wouldn't have been painted as the DEVIL coalition the last two weeks, and people would not have been scared off voting Labour.

So, yes the number of seats didn't matter, but it's the media, stupid, from now on.

Mark G, Friday, 8 May 2015 10:37 (eight years ago) link

The Last Clegg.

Mark G, Friday, 8 May 2015 10:37 (eight years ago) link

I don't think Clegg deserved (all) the vitriol he received, but he had to step down after that

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 8 May 2015 10:50 (eight years ago) link

Electoral reform? When UKIP got 3.5million votes? Scary prospect.

― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, May 8, 2015 9:56 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

UKIP's share doesn't appear to be sustainable plus isn't anything better than the current nonsense?

Don't know how anybody can attach credence to results that are so unreflective of what people actually vote for.

tsrobodo, Friday, 8 May 2015 10:51 (eight years ago) link

So with their majority, presumably the Tories can change the law to get rid of the mandatory five-year term and go back to calling the election whenever they think they are most likely to win? And they can reduce the number of constituencies and gerrymander the boundaries?

(Meme From) Essex Press (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 May 2015 10:54 (eight years ago) link

HOL.

Mark G, Friday, 8 May 2015 10:55 (eight years ago) link

Sorry guys, it's not up to the Scottish electorate to vote in a way that doesn't scare folk off Labour in English marginals.

michaellambert, Friday, 8 May 2015 10:57 (eight years ago) link

It's going to be a smaller majority than Major managed in '92.

I can only hope that, with the 'nutters' on the back-benches holding more sway, the Tory party eats itself over the next 5 years in the same way it did back then.

And that a credible alternative appears ...

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 8 May 2015 11:00 (eight years ago) link

The viciousness of the right-wing campaign showed how rattled they were. Polls weren't showing what the outcome was. They will be as surprised as anybody.

SNP destroying Lab was also hard in terms of strategy because it would've meant suddenly subscribing to more anti-austerity when they were saying all along they would not 'cut as fast as the Tories, but we'll cut'.

In the end the 'rainbow' coalition is a hard sell = too much instability, people and politicians aren't used to it. No one really cares for electoral reform (remember the vote to change the system?)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 11:03 (eight years ago) link

Redwood's rocked up and firing the gun on a new Tory EU battle before it's even done. God I hope it seriously distracts them from fucking over everything else. But danger this solidifies UKIP.

stet, Friday, 8 May 2015 11:09 (eight years ago) link

Ed has just resigned.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 11:15 (eight years ago) link

lol thanking Milli Fandom.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 11:16 (eight years ago) link

Awful Dan Hodges is right that the Tories fucked up finding a leader after Hague's snap resignation, and got it much better after taking time when Howard went. Labour needs to understand how they lost this to choose the right leader to win the next one

stet, Friday, 8 May 2015 11:19 (eight years ago) link

UK vote share change since 2010 after 641 of 650 seats
-% +%
UKIP+9.5
SNP+3.1
GRN+2.8
LAB+1.4
CON+0.7
LD-15.1

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 May 2015 11:23 (eight years ago) link

Redwood's rocked up and firing the gun on a new Tory EU battle before it's even done. God I hope it seriously distracts them from fucking over everything else. But danger this solidifies UKIP.

― stet, Friday, 8 May 2015 12:09 (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ah, Redwood, Chief Nutter

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 8 May 2015 11:28 (eight years ago) link

Votes per seat:

SNP 26k
Con 34.5k
Lab 40.5k
Lib Dem 295k
Green 1.1m
Ukip 3.8m

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 8 May 2015 11:31 (eight years ago) link

What seats are left to declare? Any Labour ones?

stet, Friday, 8 May 2015 11:45 (eight years ago) link

Ranil Jayawardena has refused to shake hands with UKIP's Robert Blay during their post-results speeches following an alleged shooting threat.
Mr Blay offered to shake hands with his Conservative opponent, who held on to the seat at Hampshire North East following the count at Hart Leisure Centre, Fleet.

Mark G, Friday, 8 May 2015 11:50 (eight years ago) link

terrible piece = when people shove a passport after a result like this then please leave.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 May 2015 12:02 (eight years ago) link

Can't believe how blue the map is. Feel a bit funny. I was zoomed in on my local area and everything was blue except Oxford East and I kept zooming out and everything kept being all blue.

My feeling of despair for the future was not quite total until that.

undergraduate dance (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 8 May 2015 12:15 (eight years ago) link

Cameron has just said he wants to make Great Britain 'greater still', he is such a fucking mediocre cretin.

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Friday, 8 May 2015 12:22 (eight years ago) link

can he change its name to Greater Britain

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 May 2015 12:24 (eight years ago) link

'greatest britain' or gtfo

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 8 May 2015 12:28 (eight years ago) link

Talking of gtfo, all polling organizations gtfo, John Curtice pwns the lot 'o youse.

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Friday, 8 May 2015 12:35 (eight years ago) link

Can't we just burn these Tories onto a cd

saer, Friday, 8 May 2015 12:38 (eight years ago) link

No, it has to be onto a USB stick which we leave on the underground.

Mark G, Friday, 8 May 2015 12:43 (eight years ago) link

Do you remember when leaders lost at elections and didn't resign afterwards? Some of them even got to win subsequent elections...

Wilson. Heath. umm... others!

Mark G, Friday, 8 May 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link

Cameron?

AlanSmithee, Friday, 8 May 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link


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