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Danny Alexander rumoured to be losing his seat too?

michaellambert, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link

there's an oath of loyalty to the queen

Did this actually happen or am I going mad? I have this vague recollection of Adams and McGuiness heading to the Houses of Parliament (maybe in 1997?) and claiming some kind of office (a literal office, i.e. a room) that they were entitled to, but never actually taking up their seats. And something about taking an oath, but having their fingers crossed?

(Meme From) Essex Press (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link

nah, i think Willy Hamilton (sp?) or one of the old guard actual left wing Labour MPs crossed his fingers once

vote yay! for constitutional monarchy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:03 (eight years ago) link

Amazingly Fallon is actually Scottish, so we've had him, Andrew Neil, Marr and Gove on tonight. Need Fraser Nelson and/or Niall Ferguson to complete the set of right wing Scottish wankers.

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:03 (eight years ago) link

and Gordon Brown

vote yay! for constitutional monarchy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link

would things have been different with david or steve rather than ed?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link

i think there was some shit about adams and mcguinness using the gym at westminster wasn't there, some minor scandal?

you didn't have to say the oath to use the hydrotherapy spa, rain room, or get a hot elemis stone massage

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link

Danny Alexander rumoured to be losing his seat too?

he was miles behind in recent local ashcroft polls - on just 21%

djmartian, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link

Are you the *actual* djmartian?

(Meme From) Essex Press (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:08 (eight years ago) link

wow peston and robinson loathe each other

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link

hello peston, business hates uncertainty you say, novel

woof, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:11 (eight years ago) link

business euphoria.

Fizzles, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link

well tbf peston was rejecting the idea that the business community like the convervative party per se rather than stability/status quo, which is what robinson was pushing

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

Are you the *actual* djmartian?

yes, the same one that started on ilxor in september 2000, and music blogger on blogspot through the 00s,

djmartian, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

hoping that my outburst of solidarity-in-despair twitter favs and facebook likes will somehow effect change

cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link

what a blast from the past - and tonight of all nights dj xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link

well tbf peston was rejecting the idea that the business community like the convervative party per se rather than stability/status quo, which is what robinson was pushing

yes and the point that for many businesses uncertainty over europe is disastrous.

Fizzles, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link

yes exactly and then he gave robinson a death stare and they cut away

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:17 (eight years ago) link

Scottish turnouts look to be pretty high again

stet, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link

it's weird it's like if you offer people a genuine alternative to Tory austerity they get all excitable and vote for it

vote yay! for constitutional monarchy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link

yes, the same one that started on ilxor in september 2000

I can't remember you posting for years and years and years

(Meme From) Essex Press (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link

Robinson wrong to project his own views on the Conservative Party onto the entire business community.

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link

there are many members of the business community who don't have a party preference as long as the party behaves like the Tories

vote yay! for constitutional monarchy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link

^ Labour manifesto commitment 1997-2015

vote yay! for constitutional monarchy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link

my step dad was a small business tory. nice person if you ignored that. literally nothing (eg QE money going nowhere near small business, tory big business favours only) wdve shaken him in his belief that tories favoured the little businessman.

Fizzles, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link

Fuck a business community tho, right, brothers and sisters?

Cram Session in Goniometry (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link

hate doing this so you can kill me if u like:

Lord Ashcroft ‏@LordAshcroft 3 minutes ago

33% of voters made up their mind how to vote in the last week. 11% decided today.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

xpost, occasional appearances on ilm end of the year polls this decade, return to ilm since last december on selective threads, your right not on ile for a long time

djmartian, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

local tv people getting their moment in the sun, there's something for the next few hours

woof, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link

djm - I hear Blur have a new alb out. have you heard it? xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link

always nice to see Bedworth on national TV

vote yay! for constitutional monarchy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link

lol

an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link

Apparently Farage may finish third in S.Thanet, so there's that!

everything, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link

sorry, no Blur

djmartian, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:32 (eight years ago) link

Interesting pedantry from constitutional lawyer Carl Gardner on Twitter. Ed doesn't have to strike any deal to become PM. Essentially, Cameron has to try to pass a Queen's Speech. If he can't get it through, Ed automatically forms the next government. With 310, it's pretty dicey to think he can pass a QS.

stet, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link

hurling myself aboard that liferaft, thanks stet

yeovil knievel (NickB), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:37 (eight years ago) link

Theresa May terrified there by the thought of Tory backbenchers having the power they're going to have under this prediction. Tory party can't hold itself together over Europe at the best of times, and this will be the worst of them.

stet, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link

If they get 310, it's even less likely that Labour can pass a QS

(Meme From) Essex Press (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link

That gets really interesting then. If all the parties that voted down the Tory bill can't find enough common ground to pass even a vanilla bill, then it's stalemate and I guess we're back to the polls

stet, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link

I'm ok with that.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link

speculation that previous labour voters have moved to ukip which have mangled marginals in favour of tories. the warning signs were in that north west, Heywood & Middleton by-election last year, it seems some people have fallen for a simple message, "ukip rhetoric" - get out of europe and all are problems can be solved.

djmartian, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link

Swing from L to C by 4%

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link

in Swindon.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link

hey Noodle Vague, a word on the Lib Dems' performance there?

an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link

BBC fucked up showing the results!

i'm guessing they got a solid 5th place?

vote yay! for constitutional monarchy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link

we need to build a wall along the M62 and secede i think

vote yay! for constitutional monarchy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link

fuck that swindon swing is tory majority territory

prolego, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link

they were solidly 5th again, yes, although I think they were within about 15 of the greens this time

an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link

really wish i'd bought cake on the way home tonight

vote yay! for constitutional monarchy (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:54 (eight years ago) link

Glad I did but now feeling sick from ramming it all into my fat face

stet, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link


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