no ascension, no credibility.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link
from the comments section; I keep forgetting anti-New Thing is still a thing:
No Brecker, Corea,, Tatum, Tristano, Marsh, Tyner?? But the woeful Ayler and Dolphy are in there? Incredible.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link
There are easily 5 or more Duke Ellington lps that are far more essential than Ellington at Newport imo.
― xelab, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link
Recap 250-1
250 Thelonious Monk - Criss Cross (1963) 359 4249 Herbie Hancock - Blow-Up (1966) 364 3248 gil evans - out of the cool (1960) 365 3247 Clifford Brown and Max Roach at Basin Street (1956) 367 3246 Charles Mingus - Blues And Roots (1959) 369 4245 Sun Ra - Strange Strings (1966) 373 4243(tie)Sonny Sharrock - Guitar (1986) 376 2243(tie)243 Milford Graves - Babi (1977) 376 2242 Art Ensemble Of Chicago - Message To Our Folks (1969) 377 3240(tie)Peter Brötzmann - Nipples (1969) 377 4240(tie)Elvin Jones - Dear John C. (1965) 377 4239 Roland Kirk - Natural Black Inventions: Root Strata (1971) 380 2238 Sun Ra - Other Planes of There (1966) 381 3237 John Coltrane - Live at Birdland (1963) 384 4236 Herbie Hancock - Thrust (1974) 386 3235 Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss Movement (1969) 387 3234 Derek Bailey - Ballads (2002) 387 5233 Max Roach - We Insist! Freedom Now Suite (1960) 394 4232 Roland Kirk - Blacknuss 398 (1972) 4231 Sun Ra - The Nubians Of Plutonia (1966) 402230 Bill Evans & Jim Hall - Undercurrent (1963) 412 4229 Bobby Hutcherson - San Francisco (1970) 413 3228 Miles Davis - Miles Davis Quartet (1954) 415 4227 Marion Brown Quartet - Marion Brown Quartet (19670 415 5226 Miles Davis - Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants (1954-56) 417 4225 Grant Green - Street Of Dreams (1964) 422 4224 Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar (1960) 431 4223 Archie Shepp - Yasmina, a black woman (1969) 432 4222 Eric Dolphy - Iron Man (1963) 436 4221 Ornette Coleman - Ornette! (1961) 436 5220 Bill Evans - Portrait In Jazz (1959) 440 3219 McCoy Tyner - Song of the New World (1973) 453 Points, 4 votes218 Baby Face Willette - Stop And Listen (1961) 457 (Points) 5 votes217 Pharoah Sanders - Summun Bukmun Umyun (1970) 458 Points, 5 votes216 Sun Ra - Lanquidity (1978) 460 Points, 3 votes215 Albert Ayler - Love Cry (1967) 461 Points, 6 votes214 Antonio Carlos Jobim - Stone Flower (1970) 465 Points, 3 votes213 Nina Simone - At Town Hall (1959) 470 Points, 4 votes212 Bobbi Humphrey - Blacks and Blues (1974) 473 Points, 6 Votes211 Evan Parker, Derek Bailey, Han Bennink - Topography of the Lungs (1970) 474 Points, 3 Votes210 John Coltrane/ Don Cherry - The Avant Garde (1960) 476 Points, 5 votes209 Jimmy Smith - Root Down (1972) 477 Points, 4 votes208 Albert Ayler - New grass (1969) 478 Points, 4 votes207 Pharoah Sanders - Izipho Zam (1969) 478 Points, 5 Votes206 Thelonious Monk and John Coltrane (1957) 479 Points, 3 votes205 Dizzy Gillespie - At Newport (1957) 501 Points, 4 votes204 Wayne Shorter - The Allseeing Eye (1965) 501 Points, 6 votes203 Alice Coltrane - Eternity (1976) 502 Points, 4 votes202 Cecil Taylor - Nefertiti (1962) 505 Points, 4 votes201 Jon Hassell/Brian Eno - Fourth World Vol. 1: Possible Musics (1990) 507 Points, 5 Votes
200 John Coltrane - Ballads (1962) 510 Points, 5 Votes199 Sarah Vaughan - Sarah Vaughan ( "Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown") (1954) 512 Points,4 Votes198 Sonny Rollins - The Cutting Edge (1974) 512 Points, 6 Votes197 Jimmy Smith - The Sermon (1958) 513 points, 4 Votes196 John Coltrane - Coltrane Plays The Blues (1962) 513 Points 5 votes195 Art Pepper - Art Pepper Meets the Rhythm Section (1957) 515 Points, 5 votes194 Freddie Hubbard - Hub-Tones (1962) 519 Points, 5 votes193 Eddie Henderson - Sunburst (1975) 519 Points, 7 votes192 Freddie Hubbard - Ready For Freddie (1961) 521 Points, 4 Votes191 Don Wilkerson - Elder Don (1962) 523 points, 5 votes190 Blue Mitchell - The Thing To Do (1964) 525 Points, 5 votesTIE188 John Coltrane - Traneing In (1958) 526 Points, 4 votes188 John Coltrane - Lush Life (1958) 526 Points, 4 votes187 Lou Donaldson - Blues Walk (1958) 528 points, 3 votes186 Andrew Hill - Compulsion (1965) 529 Points, 6 votes185 Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - A Night In Tunisia (1957) 530 Points, 5 votes184 Archie Shepp - On This Night (1966) 530 Points, 6 votes183 Jackie McLean - New And Old Gospel (1967) 534 Points, 6 votesTIE181 Alice Coltrane - World Galaxy (1972) 535 Points, 5 votes181 Albert Ayler - Bells (1965) 535 Points, 5 votes180 Jackie McLean - Let Freedom Ring (1962) 537 Points, 7 votes179 Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine (1965) 539 Points, 5 votes178 Wayne Shorter - Super Nova (1969) 540 Points, 5 votes177 Tony Williams - Lifetime (1964) 542 Points, 7 votes176 Archie Shepp - Attica Blues (1972) 545 Points, 6 votes175 Curtis Fuller - the opener (1957) 548 Points, 4 votes, One #1 vote174 Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else (1958) 548 Points, 5 votes173 Donald Byrd - places and spaces (1975) 550 Points, 5 votes172 Charles Mingus - The Clown (1957) 550 Points, 7 votesTIE170 Count Basie - The Atomic Mr Basie (1957) 553 Points, 5 votes170 Miles Davis - Seven Steps To Heaven (1963) 553 Points, 5 votes169 Sun Ra - Atlantis (1967) 554 Points, 7 votes168 Noah Howard - The Black Ark 558 6 votes167 Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse (1970) 561 Points, 4 votes166 Pharoah Sanders - Journey to the One 561 Points, 5 votes165 Kenny Burrell - Midnight Blue (1963) 563 Points 5 votes164 Miles Davis - Walkin' (1954) 563 Points 6 votes163 Grant Green - Solid (1964) 564 Points, 6 votes162 Andrew Hill - Judgment! (1964) 578 Points, 5 votes161 Eric Dolphy - Out There (1960) 580 Points, 6 votes160 Herbie Mann - Memphis underground (1969) 586 Points, 5 votesTie158 Dorothy Ashby - Afro Harping (1968) 592 Points, 6 votes158 Yusef Lateef - Eastern Sounds (1961) 592 Points, 6 votes157 Miles Davis - Dark Magus (1974) 595 Points, 6 votes156 Cannonball Adderley - Mercy Mercy Mercy! (1966) 597 Points, 4 votes One #1155 Miles Davis - Pangaea (1975) 598 Points, 6 votes154 Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame (1971) 600 points, 7 votes153 Hank Mobley - Workout (1961) 604 Points, 6 votes152 stan getz and joao gilberto - getz/gilberto (1964) 607 Points, 5 votes151 Charlie Parker - Jazz at Massey Hall (1953) 612 Points, 7 votes
TIE149 Billy Cobham - Spectrum (1973 618 Points, 6 votes149 Thelonious Monk - A Genius Of Modern Music (1947?) 618 points, 6 votes148 j.j. johnson - proof positive (1964) 619 Points, 7 votes147 Miles Davis - Workin' (1959) 620 Points, 7 votesTIE145 Art Blakey - Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (1958) 621 Points, 5 votes145 Herbie Hancock - Mr. Hands (1980) 621 Points, 5 votes144 Grant Green - Matador (1964) 624 Points, 6 votes143 Freddie Hubbard - Sing Me A Song of Songmy (1971) 625 Points, 6 votes142 Joe Henderson - In 'N Out (1964) 629 Points, 6 votes141 Don Cherry - Brown Rice (1975) 633 Points, 6 votes140 Charles Mingus - New Tijuana Moods (1957) 635 points, 5139 Herbie Hancock - Man-child 635 Points, 7 votes138 Pharoah Sanders - Jewels of Thought (1969) 637 Points, 6 votes137 Big John Patton - Let 'Em Roll (1965) 646 Points, 7 votes136 Sonny Rollins - Way Out West (1957) 656 Points, 6 votes135 Sun Ra - The Heliocentric Worlds Of Vol 2 (1966) 659 Points, 8 votes134 Grant Green - Live At The Lighthouse (1972) 662 Points, 7 votes133 Miles Davis - Sorcerer (1967) 667 Points, 6 votes132 Theolonious Monk Quartet and John Coltrane - At Carnegie Hall (1957) 673 Points131 Freddie Hubbard - Red Clay (1970) 674 Points, 8 votes130 Vince Guaraldi Trio - A Charlie Brown Christmas (1965) 684 (points) 7 votes129 John Coltrane - Kulu Se Mama (1965) 687 Points, 7 votes128 Bobby Hutcherson - Components (1965) 693 Points, 6 votes127 Thelonious Monk - Monk's Music (1957) 694 Points 8 votes126 Archie Shepp - Mama Too Tight 695 Points, 7 votes125 Miles Davis - Filles de Kilimanjaro (1968) 698 Points, 8 votes124 Miles Davis - Porgy And Bess (1958) 702 Points, 6 votes123 Miles Davis - Relaxin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1957) 703 Points, 9 votes122 Archie Shepp - The Magic of Ju-Ju (1967) 714 Points 8 votes121 Big John Patton - Along Came John (1963) 718 Points, 7 votes120 Sun Ra - Nothing Is (1966) 723 Points, 7 votes119 Sonny Clark - Leapin' And Lopin' (1961) 728 Points, 7 votes118 Miles Davis - Milestones (1958) 731 Points, 8 votes117 Kenny Dorham - Matador (1962) 737 Points, 7 votesTIE115 Charles Mingus - Oh Yeah (1962) 739 points, 6 votes115 Bobby Hutcherson - Stick Up (1966) 739 Points 6 votes114 John Coltrane - First Meditations (1965) 747 7 votes113 Miles Davis - Miles Ahead (1957) 751 Points, 9 votes112 Wayne Shorter - Schizophrenia (1967) 760 Points, 7 votes111 Jackie McLean - One Step Beyond (1963) 761 Points, 8 votes110 Lou Donaldson - Good Gracious (1963) 764 Points, 7 Votes109 McCoy Tyner - Expansions (1968) 771 Points, 7 votes108 Miles Davis - Miles in The Sky (1968) 778 Points 7 Votes107 Donald Byrd - Blackbyrd (1973) 785 Points, 8 votes106 Bill Evans - Waltz for Debby (1961) 796 Points, 7 votes105 Sun Ra - Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy (1963) 801 Points 8 votes104 Don Cherry - Mu - Parts 1 & 2 (1969) 803 Points, 9 votes103 Albert Ayler - Live in Greenwich Village (1967) 807 Points, 6 votes, One #1102 Andrew Hill - Black Fire (1963) 812 Points 8 votes101 Bobby Hutcherson - Dialogue (1965) 818 Points, 8 votes
100 Art Ensemble Of Chicago - les stances a sophie (1970) 828 Points, 9 votes99 Miles Davis - E.S.P. (1965) 835 Points, 9 votes98 Art Ensemble Of Chicago - A Jackson in Your House (1969) 846 , 8 votes97 Grant Green - Idle Moments (1965) 846 Points 9 votes96 Bill Evans - Sunday at the Village Vanguard (1961) 849 Points, 8 votes95 John Coltrane - Sun Ship 859 Points, 9 votes94 Duke Ellington - Ellington at Newport (1956) 863 Points, 7 votes93 Sonny Sharrock - Ask The Ages (1991) 872 Points, 7 votes92 Sonny Rollins - Tenor Madness (1956) 880 Points, 8 votes91 Herbie Hancock - Empyrean Isles (1964) 890 Points, 11 votes90 Miles Davis - Birth Of The Cool (recorded 1949-50) 898 Points, 9 votes89 Ornette Coleman - Tomorrow Is The Question! (1959) 904 10 votes88 Miles Davis - Nefertiti (1968) 912 Points, 8 votes87 John Coltrane - Crescent (1964) 920 Points, 8 votes86 Freddie Hubbard - Open Sesame (1960) 929 Points,9 votes85 Miles Davis - Bags' Groove (1957) 930 Points 8 votes84 Pharoah Sanders - Tauhid (1966) 932 Points, 10 votes83 Sun Ra - Angels & Demons At Play (1960) 940 Points, 10 votes82 John Coltrane - Stellar Regions (1967) 942 Points, 9 votes One #181 Thelonious Monk - Monk's Dream (1962) 949 Points, 10 votes80 Miles Davis - Miles Smiles (1967) 951 Points, 9 votes79 Alice Coltrane - Universal Consciousness (1971) 964 Points, 7 votes, TWO #1's78 John Coltrane - Coltrane (Impulse) (1962) 965 Points 10 votes77 Miles Davis - Cookin' With The Miles Davis Quintet (1957) 966 Points, 10 votes76 David Holland Quartet - Conference of the Birds (1972) 974 Points, 8 votes75 Herbie Hancock - Takin' Off (1962) 976 Points, 8 votes74 Anthony Braxton - for alto (1968) 986 Points, 8 votes73 Sonny Sharrock - Black Woman (1969) 997 points, 10 votes72 Archie Shepp - The Way Ahead (1969) 1003 Points, 9 votes71 Pharoah Sanders - Thembi (1971) 1007 Points, 9 votes70 Pharoah Sanders - Black Unity (1971) 1007 Points, 11 votes69 Oliver Nelson - The Blues and the Abstract Truth (1961) 1035 Points, 9 votes68 Lonnie Liston Smith and the Cosmic Echoes - Astral Traveling (1973) 1048 Points, 11 votes67 Hank Mobley - Roll Call (1960) 1049 (Points) 10 votes, ONE #166 John Coltrane - Meditations (1965) 1069 Points, 9 votes, ONE #165 Cecil Taylor - Conquistador (1966) 1071 Points, 10 votes, ONE # 164 Ornette Coleman - Change of the Century (1960) 1083 points, 10 votes63 Charlie Haden - Liberation Music Orchestra(1969) 1091 Points, 10 votes62 Duke Ellington feat (Charlie Mingus & Max Roach) - Money Jungle (1962) 1095 Points, 10 votes61 Sun Ra - The Heliocentric Worlds Of Vol 1 (1965) 1096 Points, 10 votes60 Hank Mobley - Straight No Filter (1966) 1099 Points, 10 votes59 Duke Ellington - Far East Suite (1967) 1125 Points, 9 votes58 Donald Byrd - off to the races (1958) 1132 Points, 11 votes57 Charles Mingus - Let My Children Hear Music (1972) 1135 Points, 10 votes56 Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - Moanin' (1958) 1151 Points, 10 votes55 Wayne Shorter - JuJu (1964) 1194 Points, 12 votes54 Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage (1965) 1200 Points, 12 votes53 Thelonious Monk - Straight No Chaser (1967) 1201 Points, 12 votes52 Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil (1964) 1207 Points, 11 votes51 Lonnie Liston Smith - Expansions (1974) 1216 Points, 10 votes50 John Coltrane - Olé Coltrane (1961) 1225 Points, 11 votes
49 Horace Silver - Song for My Father (1964) 1228 Points, 12 votes48 Miles Davis - Steamin' with the Miles Davis Quintet ( 1961) 1251 Points, 10 votes47 John Coltrane - Africa/Brass (1961) 1262 Points, 13 votes46 Ornette Coleman - This Is Our Music (1961) 1343 Points, 12 votes45 Miles Davis - Get Up With It (1974) 1350 Points, 12 votes44 Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out (1959) 1378 Points, 9 votes43 Miles Davis - Agharta (1975) 1393 Points, 12 votes42 Alice Coltrane - Ptah The El Daoud (1970) 1447 Points, 13 votes41 John Coltrane - interstellar Space (1967) 1461 Points, 15 votes40 Donald Byrd - A New Perspective (1963) 1481 Points, 12 votes39 Miles Davis - Sketches Of Spain (1960) 1493 Points, 12 votes38 Ornette Coleman - Free Jazz (1960) 1520 Points, 13 votes37 Charles Mingus - Pithecanthropus Erectus (1956) 1528 Points, 12 votes36 Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus (1956) 1538 Points, 13 votes, One #135 Miles Davis - A Tribute To Jack Johnson (1970) 1616 Points, 14 votes34 Andrew Hill - Point of Departure (1964) 1626 Points, 14 votes33 Charles Mingus - Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus (1963) 1658 Points, 15 votes32 Peter Brötzmann - Machine Gun (1968) 1714 Points, 12 votes, One #131 Lee Morgan - Search For The New Land (1964) 1836 Points, 12 votes30 Archie Shepp - Fire Music (1965) 1896 Points, 13 votes, one #129 Herbie Hancock - Crossings (1971) 1898 Points, 14 votes One #128 Joe Henderson - Page One (1963) 1902 Points, 12 votes27 Miles Davis - On the Corner (1972) 1957 Points, 14 votes, One #126 Sun Ra - Space is The Place (Impulse) 1982 Points, 17 votes25 Cecil Taylor - Unit Structures (1966) 1983 Points 15 votes24 Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder (1963) 2096 Points, 16 votes23 Jackie McLean - Destination Out (1963) 2118 Points, 14 votes22 Miles Davis - Round About Midnight (1956) 2165 Points, 15 votes21 Thelonious Monk - Brilliant Corners (1957) 2220 Points, 15 votes20 Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity (1964) 2239 Points 17 votes
19 Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda (1971) 2466 Points, 17 votes, One #118 Miles Davis - Bitches Brew (1970) 2554 Points, 17 votes TWO #1's17 Sonny Clark - Cool Struttin' (1958) 2602 Points, 17 votes, One #116 John Coltrane - My Favourite Things (1961) 2651 Points, 21 votes15 John Coltrane - A Love Supreme (1964) 2701 Points, 20 votes14 Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um (1959) 2708 Points, 22 votes13 John Coltrane - Blue Train (1957) 2710 Points, 20 votes12 Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters (1973) 2716 Points, 20 votes11 Hank Mobley - Soul Station (1960) 2737 Points, 17 votes, One #1
10 Herbie Hancock - Mwandishi (1970) 2774 Points, 20 votes, One #19 Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue (1959) 2785 Points, 21 votes8 Herbie Hancock - Sextant (1973) 2859 Points, 19 vote One #17 John Coltrane - Ascension (1966) 2912 Points, 22 votes, One #16 Pharoah Sanders - Karma (1969) 2996 Points, 21 votes5 Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959) 3011 Points, 22 votes4 Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch (1964) 3080 Points, 22 votes3 John Coltrane - Giant Steps (1959) 3134 Points, 23 votes TWO #1's2 Charles Mingus - The Black Saint And Sinner Lady (1963) 3321 Points, 22 One #1
1 Miles Davis - In A Silent Way (1969) 3379 Points, 23 votes, 3 #1's
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 6 July 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link
there is not one keith jarrett album in there. that's not ok. the sun bear concerts piss over the black saint and sinner lady. they are not always pure jazz but that's a contradictory concept anway. i never got the appeal of that mingus album.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
what's not to get? it's loads of fun, really diverse, unlike p much any other album i've ever heard in any genre...
― (no offence to people) (dog latin), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
TS: Sun Bear pissing vs Mingus' cats pissing
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 31 July 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link
did you vote alex?
― Cosmic Slop, Friday, 31 July 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link
no, somehow i missed out, sorry. i shouldn't complain really, i know.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 31 July 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link
remember tuomas volunteered to do a pre ww2 jazz poll?
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 5 October 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
deej is this better?http://www.udiscovermusic.com/50-greatest-jazz-albums-ever
50. Thelonious Monk - Genius of Modern Music vol.1 & 2.49. Count Basie - the Original American Decca Recordings48. Bud Powell - The Amazing Bud Powell Vo.147. Weather Report – Heavy Weather46. John Coltrane & Thelonious Monk - At Carnegie Hall45. Horace Silver - Song For My Father44. Grant Green - Idle Moments43. Count Basie - The Complete Atomic Basie42. Hank Mobley - Soul Station41. Charlie Christian - The Genius of the Electric Guitar40. Art Pepper meets the Rhythm Section39. John Coltrane - My Favourite Things38. Benny Goodman – At Carnegie Hall 193837. Wes Montgomery - The incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery36. The Mahavishnu Orchestra With John McLaughlin - Inner Mounting Flame35. Clifford Brown and Max Roach - Clifford Brown & Max Roach34. Andrew Hill - Point of Departure33. Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters32. Dexter Gordon - Go31. Sarah Vaughan - With Clifford Brown30. The Quintet - Jazz at Massey Hall29. Bill Evans Trio - Waltz For Debby28. Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder27. Bill Evans - Sunday at the village Vanguard26. Thelonious Monk - Brilliant Corners25. Keith Jarrett - the Koln Concert24. John Coltrane - Giant Steps23. Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage22. Duke Ellington - Ellington at Newport21. Cecil Taylor - Unit Structures20. Charlie Parker - Complete Savoy and Dial Studio recordings19. Miles Davis - Birth of the Cool18. Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - Moanin'17. Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity16. Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch15. Oliver Nelson - The Blues and the Abstract Truth14. Erroll Garner - Concert By the Sea13. Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil12. Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto - Getz/Gilberto11. Louis Armstrong - Best of the Hot 5s and 7s10. John Coltrane - Blue Train9. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew8. Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus7. Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else6. Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady5. Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come4. Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um3. Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out2. John Coltrane – A Love Supreme1. Miles Davis – Kind of Blue
― Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
I know you aren't addressing me CS but this has the obligatory Ellington at Newport placing and omits 6 or 7 of his masterworks as per usual with these fucking canon lists. Just saying like.
― xelab, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
i dont know the site but a bunch of blue note artists FB pages are currently sharing this list.
No doubt there will be jazz sites with an entirely different list.
― Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
A love supreme is too high
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link
Also agree about the Duke thing xelab mentioned
Tokenism sucks but so do "best of jazz lists" containing, like, forty miles albums. You could do an entire "greatest albums of jazz" with nothing but ellington. i guess the ones that are most "canon" are his collaborations with post-boppers like "money jungle" and "ellington and trane" as well as "far east suite" and "ellington at newport". his compilations get shrifted. even something like "never no lament" gets talked about more than listened to! probably because he did so much and it's very easy to get fatigued. listening to all of duke's stuff is probably ultimately rewarding but is like trying to read proust or something.
― rushomancy, Thursday, 8 October 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link
listening to all of duke's stuff is probably ultimately rewarding but is like trying to read proust or something.
jesus christ
― brimstead, Thursday, 8 October 2015 00:10 (eight years ago) link
his compilations get shrifted. even something like "never no lament" gets talked about more than listened to!
Never No Lament is only a compilation because the LP record wouldn't exist for another six or seven years at the time these recordings were made.
How are you measuring how much it gets listened to vs. talked about? The 78s on this set were big sellers in their day; their profound brilliance and innovation aside, they were listened to (and, significantly, danced to) constantly by millions, perhaps hundreds of millions, of people.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 9 October 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
otm
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 10 October 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34827355
Miles Davis, the trumpeter whose lyrical playing and ever-changing style made him a touchstone of 20th Century music, has been voted the greatest jazz artist of all time.The musician beat the likes of Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald and Billie Holiday - all of whom made the top 10.Votes were cast by listeners of BBC Radio and Jazz FM, and revealed on pop-up radio station BBC Music Jazz.Jazz FM presenter Helen Mayhew called Davis "the epitome of cool"."Miles was at the forefront of key developments in the sound of jazz through each decade of his long career."He's also responsible for recording the biggest-selling and most universally loved jazz album of them all, the 1959 album Kind of Blue."The full top 10 - derived from a shortlist of 50 - was: Miles Davis Louis Armstrong Duke Ellington John Coltrane Ella Fitzgerald Charlie Parker Billie Holiday Thelonious Monk (8=) Bill Evans (8=) Oscar PetersonDescribing the top 10 as "the best of the best," Radio 3's Geoffrey Smith said the first three positions were all occupied by "immortals" of jazz music.He described them as "Duke, the orchestral master; Louis, the father of us all; and Miles, the essence of the ever-changing contemporary spirit."Raised in St Louis, Missouri, Davis pioneered several styles of jazz - including cool jazz, hard-bop, modal jazz, jazz-rock, jazz-funk and the use of electronics."To be and stay a great musician. you've got to always be open to what's new, what's happening at the moment," he wrote in his autobiography."You have to be able to absorb it if you're going to continue to grow and communicate your music."The first jazz musician to incorporate the rhythms of rock and roll, he became an inspiration for generations.Among his best-selling albums were the experimental, improvised double set Bitches' Brew and the meticulous, introspective Birth of the Cool, a compilation that charted his development of the cool jazz sound.
The musician beat the likes of Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald and Billie Holiday - all of whom made the top 10.
Votes were cast by listeners of BBC Radio and Jazz FM, and revealed on pop-up radio station BBC Music Jazz.
Jazz FM presenter Helen Mayhew called Davis "the epitome of cool".
"Miles was at the forefront of key developments in the sound of jazz through each decade of his long career.
"He's also responsible for recording the biggest-selling and most universally loved jazz album of them all, the 1959 album Kind of Blue."
The full top 10 - derived from a shortlist of 50 - was:
Miles Davis Louis Armstrong Duke Ellington John Coltrane Ella Fitzgerald Charlie Parker Billie Holiday Thelonious Monk (8=) Bill Evans (8=) Oscar Peterson
Describing the top 10 as "the best of the best," Radio 3's Geoffrey Smith said the first three positions were all occupied by "immortals" of jazz music.
He described them as "Duke, the orchestral master; Louis, the father of us all; and Miles, the essence of the ever-changing contemporary spirit."
Raised in St Louis, Missouri, Davis pioneered several styles of jazz - including cool jazz, hard-bop, modal jazz, jazz-rock, jazz-funk and the use of electronics.
"To be and stay a great musician. you've got to always be open to what's new, what's happening at the moment," he wrote in his autobiography.
"You have to be able to absorb it if you're going to continue to grow and communicate your music."
The first jazz musician to incorporate the rhythms of rock and roll, he became an inspiration for generations.
Among his best-selling albums were the experimental, improvised double set Bitches' Brew and the meticulous, introspective Birth of the Cool, a compilation that charted his development of the cool jazz sound.
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 15 November 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
fun times with deej itt
― Friedrich B. Neechy (Oor Neechy), Monday, 18 February 2019 23:34 (five years ago) link
i stand by my posts itt!
also btw isn't this the anniversary of ILX's number one jazz album!
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 00:05 (five years ago) link
Count Basie doesn't get enough hipster kisses
― brimstead, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 01:36 (five years ago) link
sarahel this thread
― Friedrich B. Neechy (Oor Neechy), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 12:01 (five years ago) link
Alex OTM that the lack of Jarrett is a shocker - Vienna Concert is top 50 minimum.
Bill Evans - Sunday at the Village Vanguard is toooooooo low.
― Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 12:21 (five years ago) link
btw deej didn't vote so that is what antagonized a lot of people itt.
I was quite thankful for his presence as it kickstarted the convo and a lot of great music got discovered by people reading the thread due to him
― Friedrich B. Neechy (Oor Neechy), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 12:23 (five years ago) link
I once played a Keith Jarrett trio record for my dad and he said "he's just playing warmups out of the Hanon book." Today that's kind of how I feel about Jarrett.
Forgot about this thread even though I was all over it.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link
perfectly timed bump-- i just started playing drums and i'm looking for more jazz to listen to beyond the rockist canon.say what you will about jarrett but i will not tolerate any ill will towards dejohnette
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
no ill will here toward dejohnette
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:43 (five years ago) link
not a Jarrett marcher myself tbh, find him truly abhorrent to listen to and a massively pumped up technician or something. And will stan for any '58 - '63 top vintage hard bop over most spiritual jazz, but in a controversy free manner where I don't actually post anything in response to responders and still like lots of what is classified spiritual jazz as well tbf.
― calzino, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:50 (five years ago) link
it's hard to picture coltrane allowing a release with a title and cover as on the nose as this
https://img.discogs.com/U5ZOt_NtU3-_8dgQzA4q5fB0gyM=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-873261-1332868754.jpeg.jpg
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link
not a Jarrett marcher myself tbh, find him truly abhorrent to listen to and a massively pumped up technician or something.
Yeah, I think the main reason I enjoyed those trio records in retrospect was the interplay btw peacock and dejohnette. And the solo records are a new agey snooze. The most I ever enjoyed him was on electric miles records, and I heard he didn't like playing on them. Maybe someone needed to make him uncomfortable.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:10 (five years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/ColtraneOM.jpg
No? xpost
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:38 (five years ago) link
How did the Individualism of Gil Evans only come 323rd?! Sheesh.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link
xp ha! I guess I had never seen that cover, only know Om from that compiled "works" release.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link
Many many xps: this Blue Camel album is fantastic. The only other work of his I know is Journey to the Centre of an Egg from 2006(?), which is also excellent.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link
deej do you consider Kamasi Washington to be "spiritual hat jazz"? I haven't given him enough time but I get a bit of that vibe.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link
i expect deej will think that. He wouldn't be wrong tbf
― Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Sunday, 20 October 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
Reposting this for the benefit of TT and LJ.
― Oor Neechy, Sunday, 23 February 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link
I should see if any more of these have been added to spotify since then
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 23 February 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link
Has there? I forget what was on and what wasnt.
I must own a fair few of these by now
― Oor Neechy, Sunday, 23 February 2020 23:41 (four years ago) link
186/250 on CD and the rest digitally.
― Oor Neechy, Sunday, 23 February 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link
Ah Um
― ncxkd, Sunday, 23 February 2020 23:52 (four years ago) link
I liked the follow up Um Yeah
― Oor Neechy, Monday, 24 February 2020 00:52 (four years ago) link
Amazing that Kind Of Blue got beaten out by so many others. I like Out To Lunch, but you know?
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 24 February 2020 10:03 (four years ago) link
Kind Of Blue isn't even in my own top 10 Miles.
I also prefer A Love Supreme to Kind Of Blue and that was only #15 in this poll.
How many of these albums do you know, dog latin?
― Oor Neechy, Monday, 24 February 2020 11:09 (four years ago) link
i know the whole top ten save for the Herbie Hancock ones which I've never quite managed to get the hang of, plus most of the top twenty.
I think it's cos KoB is so canon, and for so many other albums to place above it, well that's pure ILM isn't it? Years ago when I first was getting into jazz I dismissed KoB as 'kinda safe', a bit mellow and not as bombastic and out there as the stuff that was really turning my head, but it's now the jazz album I reach to by default and discover something new about each time I hear it.
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 2 March 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
Canon records are kinda like this, aren't they?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Gartner_Hype_Cycle.svg/1280px-Gartner_Hype_Cycle.svg.png
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Monday, 2 March 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link
Amazing that Kind Of Blue got beaten out by so many others
yeah, amazing and wrong
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link
It’s probably my favorite jazz album. I mean, come on.
― brimstead, Monday, 2 March 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link