Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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they were no angels

mookieproof, Sunday, 3 May 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

o hai Dershowitz decided to weigh in: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Freddie-Gray-Alan-Dershowitz-police-charges/2015/05/01/id/642143/

cockfarmer

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 4 May 2015 05:05 (eight years ago) link

Brelo :(

, Saturday, 23 May 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

yep

brownie, Saturday, 23 May 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

as they say, We'll See

The Cleveland Police Department, which has become a flash point in the racially charged debate over police tactics, has agreed to follow some of the most exacting standards in the nation over how and when its officers can use force, and will accept close oversight to make sure those rules are not ignored, city and federal officials said Tuesday.

The agreement is part of a settlement with the Justice Department over what federal officials have called a pattern of unconstitutional policing and abuse in Cleveland. The Justice Department found that police officers here used stun guns inappropriately, punched and kicked unarmed people, and shot at people who posed no threat. The incidents often went unreported and uninvestigated, investigators found.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/us/cleveland-police-accept-use-of-force-rules-in-justice-dept-deal.html

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link

yeah, what happens when they don't meet these standards will be the test

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

judging by how it's gone in oakland, they might see some improvement in about ten years.

wmlynch, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link

Herbert also compared the photo to an episode of “Seinfeld” in which Jerry is wrongly accused of picking his nose.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

He even questioned whether the guns were really broomsticks carved to look like weapons.

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:33 (eight years ago) link

fuck those guys

DJP, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

jesus fuck, reset humanity

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link

in the grand scheme of things, Lynndie England is a worse human being than these guys, but fuck them anyway

DJP, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

well at least one of them's in prison for 12 years

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

sad lol at note about dashboard cam footage at the bottom

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 May 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh5s2AGdGAx8GKBZxe

:D

j., Monday, 1 June 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link

tl;dr: heather macdonald of the manhattan institute is a cheap liar

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/02/ferguson-crime-wave_n_7494372.html

goole, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

Wow, that is really loathsome. Would love to see if there's any response from the WaPo or author, but figure this will just get swept aside as a matter of 'subjective interpretation' or something.

And of course there are whole other essays to be written on the jump from ''there's this (actually fictitious) crime wave'' to ''well it's probably because protestors made everybody mad at the police.'' I mean, the sinister intentions of that 'argument/ are apparent, but it doesn't even make sense in crazytown: someone robs a gas station or kills their spouse, well, probably it's because some agitators stirred them up against the police. What? Does the Washington Post even have editors?

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

no, just Amazon interns

sleeve, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/tamir-rice-shooting-investigation-moves-to-cuyahoga-county-prosecutors-office?fd

i wasn't expecting anything different but still

, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

:(

, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

the conversation always moves to what happened in the few moments prior to the gun being discharged. Never to what circumstances led to the confrontation and if they could have been avoided. well, ok, that does get discussed but usually in a brief, glossed-over way.

perhaps if they didn't have one set of procedures for handling escalated scenarios that they applied to everybody in cookie cutter fashion instead of y'know, learning how to handle situations with the mentally ill or folks with learning disabilities so they might know what behaviors to anticipate.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 6 June 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ferguson-chief-20150607-story.html#page=2

interview with the interim ferguson police chief

it is some bullshit-ass bullshit, if you feel like reading some of that

j., Sunday, 7 June 2015 14:23 (eight years ago) link

the conversation always moves to what happened in the few moments prior to the gun being discharged. Never to what circumstances led to the confrontation and if they could have been avoided. well, ok, that does get discussed but usually in a brief, glossed-over way.

perhaps if they didn't have one set of procedures for handling escalated scenarios that they applied to everybody in cookie cutter fashion instead of y'know, learning how to handle situations with the mentally ill or folks with learning disabilities so they might know what behaviors to anticipate.

― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, June 6, 2015 8:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ I really couldn't put it any better than this

IIRC Seattle & Los Angeles PDs have recently adopted policies specifically geared towards changing this (by holding police accountable [at least in theory] for their decisions & actions prior to the actual split-second decision re: use of deadly force) but idk if any officers have actually faced sanctions as a result

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Sunday, 7 June 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

... but obviously, it would take a complete overhaul of our police force & healthcare system to really deal with mental illness in a productive way

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Sunday, 7 June 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R46-XTqXkzE

cop starts waving his gun around at 3'10"

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Sunday, 7 June 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

there's a long list of things i'd like to do to that cop.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 7 June 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

what a terrible human being

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 03:47 (eight years ago) link

This is more "correctional facility brutality" but I am disheartened that this story is the first I remember reading about his young man: http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/kalief-browder-1993-2015

DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

yeah I've been following his story since that first new yorker article -- such a heartbreaking end for a young man who demonstrated so much resilience in the face of adversity

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Monday, 8 June 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

Ta-Nehisi Coates writes about him:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/the-brief-and-tragic-life-of-kalief-browder/395156/

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 8 June 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

xp I hate to say this because ugh, respectability politics, but... I hold out some (naive?) hope that Kalief Browder's tragedy might touch even those who dismiss Eric Garner & Michael Brown because they were 'no angels'

of course that's little consolation to his family, & none whatsoever to Kalief himself. RIP to a brave young man who was forced to go through hell and did everything in his power to make it through :(

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Monday, 8 June 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

Who knew that South Carolina would be the state that was a leader on indicting police for murder?

DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

leader on covering their ass when there's a video that no one could ever lie away

j., Monday, 8 June 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link

as opposed to New York

DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

plenty of videos get lied away

Οὖτις, Monday, 8 June 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link

read the url as "police-officer-who-shot-scott-walker"

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 8 June 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

wishful thinking

Οὖτις, Monday, 8 June 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/11/us/texas-officer-was-under-stress-when-he-arrived-at-pool-party-lawyer-says.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

honestly a quiet resignation and apology seems like the best thing imo

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link

that Texas cop was obviously playing some kind of combat hero in his own mind, witness the ridiculous and pointless barrel roll he did while running to the scene of the "crime"

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link

surprised he didn't twirl his gun around on his index finger honestly

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link


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