Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

words can hurt, maybe you should have just kicked him in the nuts

I can't blame you for your reaction, but I do know having positive or even healthy attitudes towards the homeless is difficult at a younger age, when you're more naive and black/white about things, but ESPECIALLY when you have parents who tell you never to give money to homeless people because they're going to spend it on alcohol, like mine did.

I kind of ignored mine and would give money anyway (although admittedly I am very anxious about being approached in public by anybody, homeless or not), but no doubt there's a lot of kids who get taught from a young age these guys are social parasites and it takes them until college to learn otherwise.

though I think your method of delivery is probably a vehicle for them to learn. I know having a lot of my beliefs challenged in a provocative way like that is what led me to more closely examine things that I'd previously thought were unassailable gospel and change my mind on them. If his feelings were hurt for five minutes, maybe it's worth it if he winds up critically thinking and adopting an opinion that doesn't indirectly lead to homeless people feeling more like lower-class citizens than they already do.

almost anything even slightly good is worth hurting a college kid's feelings for five minutes. in fact the good might be inherent.

but yeah your entire civilization tells you homeless people are parasitic scum whose condition is proof of their lack of discipline, so.

also one's parents tend to not have any idea how shit is. at the height of the recession when i'd been looking for a job for months and months and was only alive because my parents were paying for me they visited me in portland and my dad told a panhandler to get a job and i almost pushed him into a bus.

the shit that irks me is that my dad still has this "fuck you" attitude when he's unemployed RIGHT NOW (and has lost three jobs in the last TWO YEARS), has borrowed money from me for 15 years (and owes me 3k). but I guess it's not a handout if it's from your kid.

Slim Charles in front of city hall just now: "the harbor's pretty. Let's fix the hood up."

also one's parents tend to not have any idea how shit is. at the height of the recession when i'd been looking for a job for months and months and was only alive because my parents were paying for me they visited me in portland and my dad told a panhandler to get a job and i almost pushed him into a bus.

would the panhandler have got your back?

bail was lower for suspect cops than it is for rioters who damaged stuff

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-what-is-next-for-officers-20150501-story.html

because jesus said private property is more important than human life, or benghazi, or something

also one's parents tend to not have any idea how shit is. at the height of the recession when i'd been looking for a job for months and months and was only alive because my parents were paying for me they visited me in portland and my dad told a panhandler to get a job and i almost pushed him into a bus.

jesus fuck, did everybody fail statistics class...how does something like THIS get 11k likes (obv rhetorical question, I know our populace is fucking stupid)

http://i58.tinypic.com/ezqt8n.png

impressive stat if we ignore the 189 million more white people and this concept called "proportions". or the fact that there are no official 'police homicide' statistics nationwide (the closest thing is FBI records of justifiable homicide which only account for about 1/4th of estimated homicides) and almost all of them are estimates compiled independently by separate organizations.

i think it was saul bellow who said “a great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep"

"unreported race"

To that one I responded, "Well, X, I'm looking forward to your proving this is true in your capstone project."

ha this is a great response (& effective i'm sure)

Holy fucking Christ! US police killed 1111 people in a single year?!

they were no angels

o hai Dershowitz decided to weigh in: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Freddie-Gray-Alan-Dershowitz-police-charges/2015/05/01/id/642143/

cockfarmer

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/05/freddie-gray-baltimore-police-brian-rice?CMP=share_btn_fb

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/11/cop-shoots-homeowner-south-carolina_n_7260830.html

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/05/olympia_police_shooting.html#incart_river

Brelo :(

yep

as they say, We'll See

The Cleveland Police Department, which has become a flash point in the racially charged debate over police tactics, has agreed to follow some of the most exacting standards in the nation over how and when its officers can use force, and will accept close oversight to make sure those rules are not ignored, city and federal officials said Tuesday.

The agreement is part of a settlement with the Justice Department over what federal officials have called a pattern of unconstitutional policing and abuse in Cleveland. The Justice Department found that police officers here used stun guns inappropriately, punched and kicked unarmed people, and shot at people who posed no threat. The incidents often went unreported and uninvestigated, investigators found.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/us/cleveland-police-accept-use-of-force-rules-in-justice-dept-deal.html

yeah, what happens when they don't meet these standards will be the test

judging by how it's gone in oakland, they might see some improvement in about ten years.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/7/71/587596/judge-wont-seal-photo-cpd-cops-posing-african-american-man-antlers

Herbert also compared the photo to an episode of “Seinfeld” in which Jerry is wrongly accused of picking his nose.

He even questioned whether the guns were really broomsticks carved to look like weapons.

fuck those guys

jesus fuck, reset humanity

in the grand scheme of things, Lynndie England is a worse human being than these guys, but fuck them anyway

well at least one of them's in prison for 12 years

sad lol at note about dashboard cam footage at the bottom

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/01/william-chapman-unarmed-shot-dead

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database#

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh5s2AGdGAx8GKBZxe

:D

tl;dr: heather macdonald of the manhattan institute is a cheap liar

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/02/ferguson-crime-wave_n_7494372.html

Wow, that is really loathsome. Would love to see if there's any response from the WaPo or author, but figure this will just get swept aside as a matter of 'subjective interpretation' or something.

And of course there are whole other essays to be written on the jump from ''there's this (actually fictitious) crime wave'' to ''well it's probably because protestors made everybody mad at the police.'' I mean, the sinister intentions of that 'argument/ are apparent, but it doesn't even make sense in crazytown: someone robs a gas station or kills their spouse, well, probably it's because some agitators stirred them up against the police. What? Does the Washington Post even have editors?

no, just Amazon interns

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/tamir-rice-shooting-investigation-moves-to-cuyahoga-county-prosecutors-office?fd

i wasn't expecting anything different but still

:(

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/06/ezell_ford_lapd_concludes_killing_of_unarmed_mentally_ill_man_was_justified.html

the conversation always moves to what happened in the few moments prior to the gun being discharged. Never to what circumstances led to the confrontation and if they could have been avoided. well, ok, that does get discussed but usually in a brief, glossed-over way.

perhaps if they didn't have one set of procedures for handling escalated scenarios that they applied to everybody in cookie cutter fashion instead of y'know, learning how to handle situations with the mentally ill or folks with learning disabilities so they might know what behaviors to anticipate.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ferguson-chief-20150607-story.html#page=2

interview with the interim ferguson police chief

it is some bullshit-ass bullshit, if you feel like reading some of that

the conversation always moves to what happened in the few moments prior to the gun being discharged. Never to what circumstances led to the confrontation and if they could have been avoided. well, ok, that does get discussed but usually in a brief, glossed-over way.

perhaps if they didn't have one set of procedures for handling escalated scenarios that they applied to everybody in cookie cutter fashion instead of y'know, learning how to handle situations with the mentally ill or folks with learning disabilities so they might know what behaviors to anticipate.

― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, June 6, 2015 8:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ I really couldn't put it any better than this

IIRC Seattle & Los Angeles PDs have recently adopted policies specifically geared towards changing this (by holding police accountable [at least in theory] for their decisions & actions prior to the actual split-second decision re: use of deadly force) but idk if any officers have actually faced sanctions as a result

... but obviously, it would take a complete overhaul of our police force & healthcare system to really deal with mental illness in a productive way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R46-XTqXkzE

cop starts waving his gun around at 3'10"

pigs

http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/texas-police-officer-suspended-after-pulling-weapon-on-teens?bftw&utm_term=4ldqpgc#.niqy8qkQK

there's a long list of things i'd like to do to that cop.