Worst Beatles song on Magical Mystery Tour

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Fantastic:
Flying
Rich Man
Strawberry
Walrus

Good:
Penny Lane

OK:
Hello Goodbye
Magical Mystery
Fool

A bit crap:
All You Need
Your Mother
Blue Jay Way

Zelda Zonk, Saturday, 2 May 2015 11:13 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

Scorsese helpfully points out it was made without the use of CGI.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, October 9, 2012 2:18 AM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

To be fair to Scorsese it was a very influential movie,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kzpHzUJCd4

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 November 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

blue jay way getting this many votes is a crime

Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 12 November 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

The title track should have won this really.

Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Sunday, 12 November 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

'Blue Jay Way' is one of my favourite things on here, real "bad trip" music. Overall, I prefer this album to Sgt. Pepper's, although 'A Day in the Life' is better than almost everything on here.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 12 November 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

in defense of "hello goodbye"'s lyrics which i've always loved: feel like the cheerful dialectic there is more successfully cosmic than "all you need is love" or for that matter my old nemesis "across the universe". also the part where paul says "you say yes" and either john or george says "but i may mean no" is underrated imo compared to "couldn't get no worse" (or "count me out... in")

having said that, this is still very funny:

Hello, Goodbye was one of my songs. There are Geminian influences here I think: the twins. It's such a deep theme in the universe, duality - man woman, black white, ebony ivory, high low, right wrong, up down, hello goodbye - that it was a very easy song to write.

no kidding

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 12 November 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

Hahahaha... yeah, no shit!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 12 November 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

haha

I always thought it was a horribly self-righteous song, like "Oh why don't you just say YES HELLO like me", come on Paul, surely we all say No and Goodbye at times

find this poll offensive though, 3 votes for Strawberry Fields, really? And Fool on the Hill rules.

niels, Sunday, 12 November 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I really don't understand the view that 'Strawberry Fields Forever' is the worst thing here at all. It's a masterpiece.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 12 November 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

HG is a 'join in' song.

Paul wants you to say/sing "Hello hello" after him,but its too tempting to annoy him and say "Goodbye goodbye" and Paul gets mildly exasperated and explains why.

Then John pops in to suggest "I say yes, but I may mean no" and he's right.

Mark G, Sunday, 12 November 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link

Then again, I used to think that "We can work it out" was about an arbitration service that The Beatles were offering.

Mark G, Sunday, 12 November 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

pretty much agree with all Turrican's posts since the revive

Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 12 November 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

I like this album a lot too, in many ways more than Sgt Peppers. Fool On The Hill is so melancholy, I like it a lot.

Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Sunday, 12 November 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

Flying you can hear and imagine them smoking blunts
Blue Jay Way just a lark

calstars, Sunday, 12 November 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link

> flying

"we are the beatles
there are four of us..."

koogs, Monday, 13 November 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link

can't hear it singing frank sidebottom's lyrics along with it

koogs, Monday, 13 November 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

^ without

koogs, Monday, 13 November 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

I think it's amazing how well this album hangs together, given that it wasn't conceived as such. It's a really strong listen end-to-end and it feels like all of the tracks belong together, even the stuff that wasn't done specifically for the EP. They wouldn't make another album that works as well end-to-end and is as impeccably produced until Abbey Road.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 13 November 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

Awful results h8 ilm so much

eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link

none of these are really that bad, great record

brimstead, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link

yeah, overall, a better record than Sgt Pepper, except for "A day in the life", of course.
That said, it's a bit cheating since "Penny Lane" and "Strawberry Fields" should have been on Pepper.
In that case, it would have been a monster with these 3 tracks !
As for this thread's subject, there's no song I dislike on this but if I really had to pick one, it would be "Blue Jay Way".
Never been too fond of George's songs in the Beatles.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 11:41 (six years ago) link

Actually, the remixed version of Pepper that was released recently does include these two songs which makes it the "one of the best albums ever made" statement finally true !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 11:44 (six years ago) link

it does not include them.

Well, the LP version doesn't, I mean.

Mark G, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 12:10 (six years ago) link

And neither does the 1CD version. So, ner.

Mark G, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 12:14 (six years ago) link

Aw I don't know about the various versions but the one on Spotify does include them !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link

I prefer Sgt Pepper overall and do think that the sequencing of MMT lets it down slightly - it's mainly that it suffers from having so many 'big' songs near the end. Like 'All You Need Is Love' is my least favourite track by far and having it follow the similarly anthemic but much better 'Baby You're a Rich Man' doesn't help.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link

Ah, Spotify.

As you were.

lg>

Mark G, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link

The sequencing just means that the album starts off great and gets better as it goes along - 'All You Need Is Love' isn't a huge favourite of mine, but it works great as a closer.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

a silly face-off for numerous reasons but for the fun and fwiw :

1. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band / Magical Mystery Tour : two tracks I don't particularly like but MMT is better and more interesting (especially the slow break) - Pepper 0/MMT 1
2. With a Little Help from My Friends / Baby, You're a Rich Man : WALHFMF is great but BYARM is cooler and groovier - Pepper 0 / MMT 2
3. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds / I Am the Walrus : I like LSD a lot but easily Walrus - Pepper 0 / MMT 3
4. Getting Better / Penny Lane : two Macca tracks against Penny Lane and it's obviously still no match - Pepper 0 / MMT 4
5. Fixing a Hole / Penny Lane
6. She's Leaving Home / The Fool on the Hill : for a long time I didn't like SLH. I enjoy it now but I have always been fond of TFOTH - Pepper 0 / MMT 5
7. Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite! / Flying : I didn't know which track to put Flying against ! - Pepper 1 / MMT 5
8. Within You Without You / Blue Jay Way : Never liked much George's indian stuff (and his songs in general)but BJW has a cool production - Pepper 1 / MMT 6
9. When I'm Sixty-Four / Your Mother Should Know : I have nothing against "Paul's granny shit" and YMSK has something beautiful and sad that most others don't - Pepper 1 / MMT 7
10. Lovely Rita / Hello, Goodbye : two okay tracks but the production is better on HG - Pepper 1 / MMT8
11. Good Morning Good Morning / All You Need Is Love : many people hate AYNIL. Not me. and I have never understood the point of GMGM (except it sounds HUGE on the remixed version of the album) - Pepper 1 / MMT 9
12. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise) : not counting it since it's a reprise and there are not enough tracks on MMT.
13. A Day in the Life / Strawberry Fields Forever : impossible choice. two of the greatest recorded songs ever. it's a tie, once point each - Pepper 2 / MMT 10

MMT wins this easily ! (again, I know this is silly)

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

Aw I don't know about the various versions but the one on Spotify does include them !

― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:21 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it does not! i mean takes of strawberry fields and penny lane are on there but they're not in sequence with the actual record/remix

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link

AIXTC, this might be a whole vs. sum of its parts situation. Even if on their own you might like the tracks on MMT better (I don't, but still), Sgt. Pepper is such a great, complete package while MMT is just an ace compilation.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah, of course I agree, MMT isn't really an album (and again, two of its best tracks SHOULD have been on Pepper instead).
That was just for fun.
As for the version on Spotify, yeah, they are not included as if they belonged to the album but still they are on the "thing" (and not just "takes" but also the "final" remixed versions, just like all the rest of the album).

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link

A compilation Magical Mystery Tour (the album) may be, but I'll still take it over Sgt. Pepper's as a collection of individual tracks and as an end-to-end listening experience.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

(and not just "takes" but also the "final" remixed versions, just like all the rest of the album).

Yeah, but they're tacked on to the end, with each "final" version following two outtakes of itself.

Just calling it out because that's twice now I've run over to Spotify to hear a version of SPLHCB with those two songs in the sequence. Quit faking me out!

pplains, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

A compilation Magical Mystery Tour (the album) may be, but I'll still take it over Sgt. Pepper's as a collection of individual tracks and as an end-to-end listening experience.

Me too. Love the title tracks, Good Morning, Day In The Life, LSD and 64, but feel little love for the rest of Pepper, but love p much all of MMT.

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

Maybe it's my Boomer programming talking, but the carnivalesque conceit of Sgt. Pepper — the packaging, the moustaches, the "concept" — is at least as important to me as the music. It's like entering a particular funhouse. MMT has great songs and a similar vibe, but it doesn't feel like a single thing to me. And as a song collection, I might on any given day rather listen to one of the Past Masters.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link

Stevie otm when SP lags it laaaaags but MMT keeps the party going throughout

eeshTrip (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 10:26 (six years ago) link

Could pretty much reverse thede rankings for my list

albvivertine, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 11:20 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

Just stumbled on this from archivist Ron Furmanek, who was asked to remix the soundtrack (sound as well as music) around 1988 for home video release.

George Martin was present for the final mix sessions, and when Furmanek played him the backing tracks to "Blue Jay Way," Martin laughed and said "this is rubbish! Did we release this??"

birdistheword, Monday, 4 January 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

that's one of the least bad few songs on the album surely? and the production makes it. was he not embarrassed by AYNIL which sounds way worse

for the most part though I think this album sounds way better than it is

Left, Monday, 4 January 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link

lol, love blue jay way but i can imagine how listening to just the isolated tracks could sound like an amateurish mess (especially if you hadnt heard them for 20 years.) it kind of only works when everything comes together for the whole effect

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

AYNIL sounds date-stamped to an exact week in 1967. It's always been a time capsule to me, which means it's not my idea of a great record, but it has the same appeal of an old photo where every anachronistic detail has vanished with time.

I wish I could enjoy "Blue Jay Way" more but it's flat-out dull. The production doesn't make anything because there's barely anything there.

birdistheword, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

That's the era when Harrison wrote on keyboards.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link

Well, guess what.

Mark G, Monday, 4 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

they shoulda done more stuff like “Flying”

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link

Johnny L. & The BTs

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

Banger

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/elvis-costello-the-beatles-live-aid-cover/

piscesx, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

Except Costello played the whole song in 4/4; as with a number of Lennon’s Beatles songs, there’s a few odd measures thrown in (in this case, 1/4 between the verse lines, and a 3/4 before the chorus), and Costello just ignores those.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 4 January 2021 22:33 (three years ago) link

A decent salvage job. They were running over and basically told Costello that he only had a several minutes to get on the stage, perform and exit, so he settled on something easy that the crowd would know and somewhat fit the spirit of the event. Introducing it as "a Northern folk song" was very amusing.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link

*had several

birdistheword, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link


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