2015 UK General Election campaign & aftermath discussion thread.

lol "let me be clear about this" really is some kind of talk unique to a brit politician, just like an empty prelude.

― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:42 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it is literally the thing impersonators of obama say the most to let people know they're doing an impersonation of obama

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/14/AR2010011403872.html

that doesn't necessarily contradict LG's point xp

he says it's unique to a brit politician. it's demonstrably and famously not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSbl_uvtNSE

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/12/video-of-the-day-a-supercut-remix-of-barack-obamas-favorite-idiom/266529/

okay - sorry caek

i mean it's doubtless true it's a tic miliband (and other british politicians) have consciously or unconcsciously picked up from obama

and agreed it's an empty prelude

ffs they haven't picked up from Obama, they've been saying it for years, not sure if Lord Palmerston said it but...

i guess i just seldom hear obama speak really

Same here.

Pretty sure Blair used that phrase a few times also.

It's almost as bad as the passive-aggressive 'Look, ...' all UK politicians seem to start every answer with when addressing an audience

Australian cricketers constantly do that too.

uk politicians and australian cricketers (also england cricketers now) FFS XPOST

look, tom, leave the cricket talk to me in future

irish people do "listen" more than look, i think.

we know our limitations.

Who has been more influential on UK politics, Barack Obama or Ricky Ponting?

... and Welsh say "look you" and the Scots, "See you, Jimmy"

i guess i just seldom hear obama speak really

― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:13 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he speaks all the time, it is literally the thing impersonators of obama do the most to let people know they're doing an impersonation of obama

i find that hard to believe - i imagine i'd have heard him speak by now if he could

teach the controversy

haw imago you know we scots run the cricket threads here! ;)

but yeah its been around forever

Favourite Obama speech for a while now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z168hPCZuk

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147

I can think of only one suitable place where Bama's nobel peace prize ought to be shoved in a very rough manner...

This year is going to be my first actual vote and what a shitty vote it will be. I wasn't previously a refuse-nik, previous excuses; druggy nihilist apathy and another time I was busy with more important shit and never registered, then there was the other Fuck Blair time. I want to vote for the Green Party for my debut vote but might have to vote for Labour unfortunately. This current lot are fixing to liquidate my family so it is a desperate vote really and one which still may prove to be a mistake.

What a fucking embarrassment, stupid cunt

I would warm to ed if the entirety of his communications were engraved on monoliths

Are any of his objectives on there in any way measurable? Twat.

labour is more of a vibe

like all 2015 conviction politicians i'm sure Ed would dearly love to set out some actual concrete policies that would promote equality and reduce the number of people in the UK living in poverty but unfortunately he has to play the game of realpolitik which means as the leader of a small, unpopular party he can only fudge issues, make vague uplifting noises and continue to serve the agenda of Capitalism

This place is a message... and part of a system of messages... pay attention to it!Sending this message was important to us. We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture.

This place is not a place of honor...no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here.

What is here is dangerous and repulsive to us. This message is a warning about danger.

The danger is in a particular location... it increases toward a center... the center of danger is here... of a particular size and shape, and below us.

The danger is still present, in your time, as it was in ours.

The danger is to the body, and it can kill.

The form of the danger is an emanation of energy.

The danger is unleashed only if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEE5kkpWYAAnRvs.jpg

The Labour Party is already a parody of itself.

https://vine.co/v/e7lma2ivQwa

this just seems baffling, how many people would have had to sign off on this terrible idea before we got to the point of Ed Miliband being photographed in front of a giant stone with Labour's campaign pledges carved into it, and somehow it still happened

Who does he think he is, fuckin' Moses?

Today in pointless protest votes - what's the story with TUSC? I chatted a bit with the candidate for my constituency yesterday and she was trying to convince me to vote for them instead of the Greens. I tend to be a bit suspicious of "socialist" parties even though I am basically a socialist, I wouldn't support SWP or Respect, but I noted the TUSC were selling a Socialist newspaper that isn't the Socialist Worker so I assume they're not affiliated.

Really it makes no difference to anything whether I vote TUSC or Green in a safe Labour seat but I figured since it is a safe seat there's no point me voting Labour just to keep the Tories out because it's not like they have a hope in hell in my constituency anyway. I'd just like to support a credible left wing party (wouldn't we all lol etc) even if it is a worthless token gesture.

feel like old school left Labour/Trade Union activists, wd probly vote for them if they stood a candidate in my ward, am sure they are terrible irresponsible gits who haven't properly costed their manifesto pledges and don't see the point of having war crime weapons and such

looks like an electoral collab between the usual suspects: SWP, Socialist Party (old Militant) etc

Founded by Bob Crow! Probably all you need to know one way or another :)

hmm, apparently it was formed out of that No2EU party and does have SWP in it. The Socialist newspaper they were selling is the Militant paper - I was too young to really know what was going on re Militant in the 80s tbh. Local candidate is the daughter of the Militant leader.

I haven't seen one single canvasser from any party round my bit. I wonder if they just assume everyone here is Labour.

yeah nobody called to me at any point, just littered my mailbox with increasingly large pamphlets

i find that quite disappointing, i was looking forward to wheeling out my meagre local man concerns

SNP surely? (xp)

man in one of the flats opposite has got one of those fucking england flags up in his window with an a4 'vote ukip' sign stuck right in the centre of it. it's a really grey and grubby flag though, looks like it's already spent 14 weather-beaten years hanging outside a sports pub on a busy traffic junction. fairly makes my heart sing seeing it every morning

was in Glasgow this weekend and it was pretty wild how many yellow SNP posters i saw, stuck in every conceivable sort of window

Got this through the door yesterday:

http://i.imgur.com/MyRbeXL.jpg

Timing!

nah tom, cant see either hamilton constituency going snp. the one with rutherglen will stay labour according to lord ashcrofts polls and our one (that contains larky and lanark) cant see people in those towns voting snp.
Would make my year if Jimmy Hood was kicked out though.

UKIP's Scottish launch impressively even worse than you might imagine.

Enjoying the lib dem messaging today.

'Tories/Labour can't form a workable government with any of these other parties due to the SNP/DUP/UKIP having actual principles. Luckily, that's where we come in'

'Bored and depressed by this election campaign? Sick of watching the gogglebox people watching party political broadcasts? Imagine having to do it all again! You don't want that do you? We have the physical mass necessary to stop that happening. Vote lib dem.'