The Who: Eminence Front

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Bass nerd note: the isolated track makes it easier to hear that Entwistle isn't playing standard slap bass here; it's mostly what he called his "typewriter style". He's slapping/tapping the fingers of his right hand against the fretboard. He was a really weird player and a lot of his later career tonal moves were influenced by his increasing deafness, which doesn't make them less cool sounding.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 06:24 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, totally. His rig got larger/more insane as his hearing loss progressed. By all accounts, he was stone deaf in his last few years, and suffered far more hearing loss than anyone else in the Who -- but he also toured during their downtime, going out-of-pocket (and heavily into debt) to keep his solo band on the road in the 90s and 00s. He loved playing live/loud so much that he just kept turning up the volume.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link

When they played it tonight, it got one of the bigger initial responses from the mostly 50+ crowd.

Zachary Taylor, Thursday, 30 April 2015 04:50 (eight years ago) link

Sometimes, people forget (because they're growing senile.)

pplains, Thursday, 30 April 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link

I'm not a fan of the new arrangement. Zak Starkey's lack of Jonesy swing and Simon Townshend's self-consciously pseudo-funky wah-wah bit deflate the groove.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 30 April 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link

I really like EMINENCE FRONT "it's a put on"

the pinefox, Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

wait, is the who just people's kids now? is nigel daltrey the singer?

scott seward, Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

they're becoming the justice society of rock. in a few years the who will be made up entirely of the descendants of the greats of decades past.

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/bY9JEp6.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

it just occurred to me that i don't know anything about the who's love life. probably for the best.

scott seward, Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

check Pete's credit card statement from '02.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

Daltrey's been happily married since 1971. Townshend was married from 1968-1994; his bender during the Psychoderelict tour was the last straw for his wife. He's been with musician Rachel Fuller since 1995 or so (pretty sure she contributed an arrangement or two to Endless Wire).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

this is weird, my headphones are fucked up or something, maybe missing a stereo channel? And listening to this track I can barely heard the synth but everything else is loud and clear. This muscley guitar warmup session, definitely missing something but I had barely noticed this had a lead guitar part before. Recommended!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 30 April 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV5-DaI5ULg

or wait it's just this Youtube. Is this an alternate take? What's going on?

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, this is the official video, but an alternate/live/soundcheck take (Capital Center, Largo, MD 9/22/82).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

Ahhhhhh, dig it. It's cool! In no way would replace the studio recording, but it's revealing.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

I had to go back and look at where this placed on the classic rock poll - just cracked the top 100 at #99.

SCHLITZ MIXED BAG (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

it's a putin

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

I just watched a bunch of Eminence Front videos and I kinda want to hear an isolated track of Daltrey's guitar.

Like, we know he could play guitar, I am reliably informed that he started on guitar.

But what is he actually playing here? It is not in the mix as far as I can tell.

The sheer goofiness of "yo Roger, you aren't singing lead but you will look stupid if you're just standing there, so please make meaningless gestures with this guitar that we will probably plug in, but which we will not actually amplify"... just seems silly.

The dude was/is one of the most famous rock singers / front men in history. He could just sat this one out. But no. If he isn't singing lead, let's give him a guitar and have him pretend to play it meaningfully while a legendary guitarist just does everything necessary a few feet to your left. Thx

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link

reflexively tried to hit ‘like’ on this post

the life of a rebo band is always intense (emsworth), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 09:16 (one year ago) link

This song is swag as fuck

― brimstead, Tuesday, April 28, 2015 9:27 PM (seven years ago)

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 12:42 (one year ago) link

But what is he actually playing here? It is not in the mix as far as I can tell.

What are you trying to say here? That it's a put on?

pplains, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

The dude was/is one of the most famous rock singers / front men in history. He could just sat this one out. But no. If he isn't singing lead, let's give him a guitar and have him pretend to play it meaningfully while a legendary guitarist just does everything necessary a few feet to your left. Thx

― your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, July 25, 2022 11:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

haha Daltrey just doubles the main riff, but the only live recording where he's audible is the official video/soundcheck thing from 1982. He also played rhythm guitar on "It's Hard" on the 1982 tour. My guess is that he played those parts in the studio out of expediency -- they only spent two weeks recording It's Hard -- and decided to do it live as well.

Since 1996 he's played acoustic on "Who Are You," but I've never been able to hear it. He did play a much more audible acoustic part on their '96-'97 encores where they did a medley of "Ring of Fire," "I Walk The Line," and (sometimes) "A Legal Matter."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

he shd quit singing and concentrate on inaudible guitar imo

mark s, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

Major 'inaudible' guitarists

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

New Wave Who was a good idea after that bit in Cincinnati, frankly.

I Met Mr. Mathis (I M Losted), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

That specific shard of guitar at 2:43 is my favourite moment

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

The vocal flub blows it for me. No idea why they left that in. They didn't replicate it on the tour.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link


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