Huh.
― Sam Weller, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 10:16 (nine years ago) link
Billy Corgan is large?
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 10:22 (nine years ago) link
Huh, he's about the same height as me. I'd always assumed he was a titch.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 10:24 (nine years ago) link
yes, corgan is large. also that tweet is more than 140 characters. i can tell by the pixels.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link
he is v tall but strangely has a napoleon complex
― NotKnowPotato (stevie), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
No recordings or setlists from the Australia leg of the Siamese Dream tour have ever surfaced before now. This is the infamous show where, on his way to the stage, Billy walked past Kim Thayil and told him he hurt him deeply in his heart. Check out the Superman longsleeve. Pumpkins start at 32:50. Breeders right before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-S6ojE5reA&feature=youtu.be
― flappy bird, Monday, 14 March 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link
This is am important find. Thank you, flappy bird.
― how's life, Monday, 14 March 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link
Flappy bird is for posterity!
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link
This is the infamous showAre you basing this just on Billy's shirt? Youtube description says this is Auckland - Billy probably wore that shirt on each stop of the festival.
― Vernon Locke, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 11:47 (eight years ago) link
Rats! I misread the article before posting, thought it said it was a week later, not a day later. That would make the infamous show 1/23/94 in Melbourne. A setlist is extant, and opening with Geek U.S.A. fits the "scrim of anger" description by the author.
http://www.spfc.org/data/media/19/292/1513.jpg
This has been Corrections and Confessions with Flappy bird. have a good one :^)
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 16:30 (eight years ago) link
The way I read the article, the show was at the Gold Coast. Kim, Billy etc. flew up and had their initial interaction the day before the show. Of course, Jonathan Gold could've moved events around for comedic effect...
― Vernon Locke, Thursday, 17 March 2016 02:48 (eight years ago) link
The whole exchange happened at the first show on the Gold Coast, but the "hurt me deeply in my heart" happened the next day in Melbourne.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 17 March 2016 17:07 (eight years ago) link
btw happy birthday billy!
https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/722429491386191873
On today's show: Smashing Pumpkin's Billy Corgan will demolish social justice warrior brainwashing in studio.
― goole, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link
great news
― tylerw, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
oh no
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link
the last time he was on he said "I think it's very astute of you to call it an Infowar."
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link
things Billy Corgan told a loony-bin broadcaster were 'astute' in Internet
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 22:59 (eight years ago) link
christ he really does have the mind of child
― rmde bob (will), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 03:45 (eight years ago) link
oh
http://pitchfork.com/news/64926-billy-corgan-compares-social-justice-warriors-to-the-kkk/
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 04:18 (eight years ago) link
oh, billy.oh no.
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 05:58 (eight years ago) link
That's what exposes them every time and you guys are doing a great job of exposing that but most people–most people–who are not down there at the rally and spinning their Twizzler and making up stories about ghosts that don't exist–and it's a lot of fantasy stuff going on there. I mean, it literally could be a wizard world convention.
glad billy pumpkin is here to warn us of the dangers posed by fantasy stuff, nerds assembling in groups, and making up stories about ghosts that don't exist
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 06:03 (eight years ago) link
Billy is essentially a massive fantasist, isn't he? All that stuff he was guffing a few years back, about how he and Kurt were the two scribes of their generation, and no one else could touch them... Crazy. I mean, I like the first two Smashing Pumpkins albums, but I find it hard to get past that contemporaneous review that they sound like Roxette produced by Alan Moulder.
― Jerry Lee Lewis: The Total Film-Maker (stevie), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 07:44 (eight years ago) link
ghosts that don't exist
― ghosts that don't exist (Neil S), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 09:50 (eight years ago) link
And again–you haven't said this here so it's not again–the lack of tolerance of ideas and other points of view is the great Achilles heel of the social justice warrior movement.
so champion of free speech billy corgan isn't down with tolerating people talking about injustice huh
― the world’s youngest hyper-polyglot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 10:25 (eight years ago) link
hypothetical Star Wars holodeck type of way
GODDAMMIT BILLY THE HOLODECK IS STAR TREK
― the world’s youngest hyper-polyglot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 10:27 (eight years ago) link
the last time he was on he said "I think it's very astute of you to call it an Infowar."― flappy bird, Tuesday, April 19, 2016 4:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flappy bird, Tuesday, April 19, 2016 4:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha
― ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 11:14 (eight years ago) link
from the new interview: "Like I've said before, I think it was very prescient of you to call it an Infowar."
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link
I came in the door I said it beforeI think it was very prescient of you to call it an Infowar
― how's life, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link
the fluoride in me is the fluoride in you
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link
lot of facepalming and easy jokes here, not a whole lot of arguing with what he, you know, actually said
― Wimmels, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link
i thought it was a great interview. i thought he had a lot of interesting and insightful things to say. i take issue with his use of "social justice warrior," incredibly stupid phrase, but other than that, it was surprisingly good, much better than his previous two appearances on Infowars. I watched the interview live, and I didn't expect it to make any headlines. But of course, Pitchfork and Stereogum completely misrepresented what he said in their headlines and write ups. Sort of makes you lean toward Corgan and Jones' media complicity theory.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link
does it now
― balls, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link
just a little
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link
As someone who has actually tried arguing with people on the internet who believe there is a worldwide conspiracy of "SJWs", can I be the first to offer my disinterest in continuing it here?
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 22:54 (eight years ago) link
idk, if you let go your preconceived notions and really think for yourself, it is very suspicious how no one itt has engaged with the substance of someone decrying a "SJW" conspiracy by comparing campus activists to mao, hitler, and jim crow justice, on an internet talk show hosted by chris farley as bennett brauer.
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link
he's very stupid indeed, is the takeaway here
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 23:21 (eight years ago) link
But of course, Pitchfork and Stereogum completely misrepresented what he said in their headlines and write ups
they did not. he was making false equivalencies. it's v typical faux liberal bullshit to be like "if you do anything that resembles what a fascist once did you too must be a fascist, free speech blah blah blah" without any actual recognition or consciousness of the imbalance of power in these relationships. it's horseshit and offensively stupid
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link
it's horseshit and offensively stupid
Just like his music!
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 21 April 2016 00:29 (eight years ago) link
I really fell down a hole listening to Alex Jones, weird trip today. It's like they have perfectly intelligent, rational discussions as long as your willing to proceed with a mutually accepted batshit worldview. He also is really hawking this line of nutritional supplements hardcore
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 April 2016 00:40 (eight years ago) link
jones is good fun
― lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 21 April 2016 01:04 (eight years ago) link
Maybe the problem is the older generation thinks the youth of today get offended too easily.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 April 2016 02:17 (eight years ago) link
like getting hurt in their hearts
― mookieproof, Thursday, 21 April 2016 02:25 (eight years ago) link
hearing people talk about how offended they are that other people are being offended getting pretty old at this point
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 21 April 2016 11:00 (eight years ago) link
Are you offended by it?
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 21 April 2016 11:15 (eight years ago) link
Billy does talk some garbage, doesn't he. I miss the days when you'd only hear from him in an MTV interview or a magazine.
― Sam Weller, Thursday, 21 April 2016 13:51 (eight years ago) link
saw this on twitter, billy has always been really good at relating to womenhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qIhtKkrnuM
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:41 (eight years ago) link
oh my god, all the interviews from that day are amazing. they all make me wince. like when he makes the "I'm Ono-Corgan" joke and then does the "went over your head" gesture - christ, fuck you billy.
even better: Billy mistakenly refers to Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds as a British band, and Cave just obliterates him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ6SuW7RDKI
― flappy bird, Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:48 (eight years ago) link
never really got into his music, but i don't think my friends who did were under any illusion that he is not a huge turd
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 21 April 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link
thing is if he and not cobain had died just after their followup to the breakthrough album i think his rep would be a very very different thing. sweeping genius, ambition, the sensitive shy perfectionist aiming for the stars etc. etc. gish, SD and MCIS is a hell of a run (as the current albums poll thread suggests), not even getting into the b-sides and such. he had something really really special. then, very suddenly, it seemed to dissipate.
what's particularly sad about the spaceboy becoming lindbergh, or howard hughes, or whatever, is that so much of what was brilliant in his music was how it spoke to being a picked-on weirdo without just wallowing in self-pity or anger, though those were unmistakably part of the mix. despite all the rage, he actually spoke up for fey romance and dreams and being, well, different. to use an appropriately high-school reference, he was piggy, but also simon, and when he was angry it was only due to the wounds inflicted by the jacks of the world. siding with the bullies against those who speak up for difference is a real woodstock-attendees-voting-for-reagan kind of sad if predictable disappointment.
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:16 (eight years ago) link