Faith No More: Classic or Dud

you guys gotta be hella young

midlife crisis
woodpecker from mars
we care a lot
smaller and smaller
kindergarten

I was just shy of 9 when the Real Thing came out if that gives a hint.

i did 'a small victory' at my senior year high school talent show; i was the guy in the background screaming HUT...HUT... HUT... HUT HUT HUT and IT SHOULDNTATA BOTHA ME NO
at the end of the song we screamed into the microphone and had a full on freakout then paused and flipped out again every time the emcee tried to come back on
oh we were so clever

There's no way I could reduce it to only five for this band.

forks you are so young

aw thanks

not hella young just evolved (runs)

me i mean, not forks

yeah, i'm still charmander over here

ok see i AM old, i had to google what that even was

cuckoo for caca
malpractice
small victory
jizzlobber
just a man

I mean I have regrets about these choices and obviously I'm fond of two albums in particular but I think this is a nice EP of what makes the band great

midlife crisis
underwater love
annie's song
smaller and smaller
be aggressive

pov subject to change, can include anything from Angel Dust

All from the KFAD/AOTY era, but...

Digging the Grave
Ugly In The Morning
Gentle Art of Making Enemies
Stripsearch
I Started A Joke

DL, you should listen to Angel Dust all the way through today.

I realize that Angeldust gets the bulk of the critical acclaim for the band and that people also mention the following two releases as well but fuck man, I still adore The Real Thing and still find myself playing it a lot more than any other FNM release. Yeah, it was their biggest album (in America ay ant rate), the one that broke the band, but I don't consider that a deterrent.

I admit a personal bias towards this one. I worked at Tower Records in the village in NYC from late 1989 for a couple years, my first "music biz" job after I left home to go (back) to NYC. I worked in the tape department in the basement. I adored this album from when I first picked it up after seeing the "From Out of Nowhere" video on MTV's "Headbanger's Ball" while still in Virginia before moving. I played it literally every day I worked and I know I was personally responsible for selling 100+ copies of the damn thing just through repetition and talking it up to customers and this was leading up to it really took off much later in 1990.

But even if I take a step back and try to look at it objectively, I enjoy the accessibility of the album. To me the none-too-subtle removal of the hooks from Angeldust was kind of a reverse sell out, a rebellious reaction to their unexpected but glorious success. Which they were entitled to do and which created another great album for markedly different reasons, but one that I simply don't play as much.

There are loads of hooks on Angel Dust! So many! I genuinely think it's a much better more and interesting record than The Real Thing, which I find a bit grating (largely because of the nasal vocal thing Patton does on it, the songwriting is solid).

AD was admittedly my first FNM album, there may be a pattern here.

the real thing was my first but angel dust is clearly the masterpiece. album of the year was my 2nd fave. played it last night and it still holds up

My Faith No More albums ranking goes something like this:

1. Introduce Yourself
2. The Real Thing
3. King for a Day, Fool For a Lifetime
4. Angel Dust

Never heard Album of the Year.

1. Angel Dust
2. AotY
3. KFaD
4. The Real Thing

Sol Invictus might sneak the number two slot with a few more listens. I've never given the pre-Patton stuff much of a chance, perhaps unfairly.

Angel Dust
The Real Thing
Introduce Yourself
King For A Day
We Care A Lot
Album Of The Year

but they're all great. Not sure yet where Sol Invictus would place.

[low placing for AOTY just because I've played it the least so far; slept on it in 1998, only really revisited it post-reunion]

[Mark Bowen and As The Worm Turns off We Care A Lot two of my have FNM tracks, but prefer later Patton live versions over Chuck versions]

AOTY is better than king for a day

Heads up -- two deluxe reissues soon, and bonus tracks, you got 'em:

THE REAL THING
Track Listing

Disc One: Original Album
1. "From Out Of Nowhere"
2. "Epic"
3. "Falling To Pieces"
4. "Surprise You're Dead"
5. "Zombie Eaters"
6. "The Real Thing"
7. "Underwater Love"
8. "The Morning After"
9. "Woodpecker From Mars"
10. "War Pigs"
11. "Edge Of The World"

Disc Two: Bonus Disc
1. Sweet Emotion (Taken from Kerrang! Flexible Fiend)
2. Epic (Radio Remix Edit) (Taken from the 'Epic' Promotional CD single)
3. Falling To Pieces (Matt Wallace Remix) (Taken from the 'Falling To Pieces' 12" single)
4. Cowboy Song (B-side) (Taken from the b-side of 'From Out Of Nowhere' single)
5. The Grade (B-side) (Taken from the b-side of 'From Out Of Nowhere' 12" single)
6. From Out Of Nowhere (Extended Remix) (Taken from the 'From Out Of Nowhere' 12" single)
7. War Pigs (Live Berlin 11.9.1989) (Iommi/Ward/Butler/Osbourne) Westminster Music Ltd.
(Taken from the b-side of 'Epic' 12" single)
8. Surprise You're Dead (Live Sheffield) (Taken from the b-side of 'Epic' 12" single)
9. Chinese Arithmetic (Live Sheffield) (Taken from the b-side of 'Epic' 12" single)
10. Underwater Love (Live at Brixton Academy, London 28 April 1990) (Taken from the b-side of 'Falling To Pieces' 12" single)
11. As The Worms Turns (Live at Brixton Academy, London 28 April 1990) (Taken from the video for "You Fat B**tards")

ANGEL DUST
Track Listing

Disc One: Original Album
1. "Land Of Sunshine"
2. "Caffeine"
3. "Midlife Crisis"
4. "R.V."
5. "Smaller And Smaller"
6. "Everything's Ruined"
7. "Malpractice"
8. "Kindergarten"
9. "Be Aggressive"
10. "A Small Victory"
11. "Crack Hitler"
12. "Jizzlobber"
13. "Midnight Cowboy"
14. "Easy"

Disc Two: Bonus Disc
1. Easy (Cooler Version) (Lionel Ritchie) (Taken from the 'I'm Easy' CD single)
2. Das Schutzenfest (German version) (Taken from the 'I'm Easy' CD single)
3. As The Worm Turns (Mike Patton vocal / Japan bonus track) (Taken from the Japanese edition of "Angel Dust")
4. Let's Lynch The Landlord (B-Side) (Jello Biafra) (Taken from the 'A Small Victory' single)
5. Midlife Crisis (The Scream Mix) Remixed by Matt Wallace (Taken from the bonus 12" included with "Angel Dust" LP)
6. A Small Victory (R-Evolution 23 (Full Moon) Mix) (Taken from the 'A Small Victory' 12" single)
7. Easy (Live Munich 9th November 1992) ((Lionel Ritchie) (Taken from the 'I'm Easy' CD single)
8. Be Aggressive (Live Munich 9th November 1992) (Taken from the b-side of 'I'm Easy' CD single)
9. Kindergarten (Live Munich 9th November 1992) (Taken from the b-side of 'I'm Easy' CD single)
10. A Small Victory (Live Munich 9th November 1992) (Taken from the b-side of 'I'm Easy' CD single)]
11. Mark Bowen (Live Munich 9th November 1992) (Taken from the b-side of 'I'm Easy' CD single)
12. We Care A Lot (Live Munich 9th November 1992) (Taken from the b-side of 'I'm Easy' CD single)
13. Midlife Crisis (Live Dekalb, Ill. 20th September 1992) (Taken from the b-side of 'Everything's Ruined' CD single)
14. Land Of Sunshine (Live Dekalb, Ill. 20th September 1992) (Taken from the b-side of 'Everything's Ruined' CD single)
15. Edge of The World (Live St. Louis 18th September 1992) (Taken from the b-side of 'Everything's Ruined' CD single)
16. R.V. (Live Dekalb, Ill. 20th September 1992) (Taken from the b-side of 'Everything's Ruined' CD single)
17. The World Is Yours (Outtake from Angel Dust sessions) (Taken from the album "Who Cares A Lot? The Greatest Hits)

Let's Lynch The Landlord (B-Side) (Jello Biafra) (Taken from the 'A Small Victory' single)

did they re-record this for their own release, like Disposable Heroes did?

nycnative, i fucking loved that tower records. we probably crossed paths a few times.

I love Angel Dust - especially now that I'm older, musically I find the arrangements really layered & cool

Like RV is so weird vocally but musically it's kinda beautiful, and Everything's Ruined - I love the soaring guitar in the background through the chorus & but the also the haunting piano in the verses

there's lots of really creative stuff going on!!

not that there isnt on all their albums but this one stands out artistically, like they really flex their collective muscles here imo

Yeah it's the album you get the sense from the most that they're combining ideas and techniques from different genres to create new hybrids rather than just doing a lounge song for a laugh or whatever.

please help me by telling me what song FNM are vamping on with this version of Midlife Crisis pls

is it boz scaggs' lowdown??

[would probs help if i c&p'd the youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5AvfDL9wmc

patton is such a weirdo

i love how much he loves AM gold songs, & how well they interpret them it's so fun

I haven't heard this yet, but definitely looking forward to it. King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime is my second favourite FNM album after Angel Dust, and I always felt it was an incredibly underrated album on the whole.

"As the Worm Turns" is amazing, now in my POV

it's funny how Angel Dust comes across to me now. I bought this album my freshman year of college, quite literally the week I began taking Luvox (anti-depressant/OCD medication) for the first time, so my head was doing some weird things already. i pulled a depressive vibe off of the music, it kind of played into what I was feeling and sent me to these weird places.

Obviously there's humor all over the damn album but I drew more on the less vibrant, more melancholy sounds when compared to The Real Thing. LIstening to it now, in a healthier state of mind, the album is much more of a good time, a jaunty trip by a bunch of talented musicians who liked to fuck with their audience, but without much of the genre-splicing that would come later.

AoTY I just rebought because I realize my opinion on the album is circa 1998 when I had maybe 30 albums total. First listen = I like this better than I remember, but if I recall the second half is where it lost me so having to chug along still.

Just picked up Introduce Yourself.

xxxpost stevie: yes that was Lowdown, that was the show I was at :)

i love how much he loves AM gold songs, & how well they interpret them it's so fun

Obviously not FNM, but I couldn't resist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaUrzMeS4xg

So good.

i love that album SO much

Why was Chuck Moseley always trying to teach his extended family to fart?

Because its dangerous for the intestines when gas builds up.

At the risk of turning this thread into the Mike Patton cocksuckers club, this very young interview is delightful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFrLlsPqKaU

listening to AotY now and I like it much more than I did last I heard (which to be fair, was when I was 18 and hadn't heard Angel Dust or The Real Thing yet).

"Stripsearch" is so fucking great but John Hudson's plodding dumb caveman metal guitars are so pointless. I mean I realize Jim Martin was equally lumbering one-dimensional metal guy (which is why they fax-fired him) but he was more interesting. I think Hudson's riffs are mostly pointless on this album other than the lead he plays on "Ashes to Ashes". well and actually I do like his unhinged noisy riffing on "Naked in Front of the Computer".

Roddy Bottum's keyboards pwn this fucking album.

Jim Martin has that kinda Slash thing "wail with feeling" i dunno what you call it, lotsa players aim for it and/or imitate it but dont always get there

but I also like a lot of the post Martin stuff a lot, and if they lose a little guitarwise with hudson but enjoy playing together then cool

roddy is king o keyboards for all time

I love KFAD without reservation.......still fighting to not listen to Sol Invictus despite the leak

KFAD rulez

I dunno why, but AOtY has never grabbed me

loses steam in the second half. bass pretty pedestrian. no genre hopping......