De La Soul - Classic or Dud?

Like in 2004 the top rap albums on Pitchfork's EOY were The Streets, Madvillain, Ghostface, Dizzee Rascal, Kanye, and De La Soul. And in 2005 they were Kanye, Cam'ron, Clipse, Beanie Siegel, The Game, Young Jeezy.

raised about $601k, yikes

That is great.

As our September delivery date has long come and gone, we'd like to address the delay, the plan moving forward and the expected release date of our album.
Releasing a record independently has been a real undertaking. In addition to artistic satisfaction, the administrative and executive end had to feel right as well. Side artist clearances and appropriating the best distribution for this project has been just as important. With negotiations complete, we are now working on the plan for our awaited release. Thank you all for your patience.
In late December we'll hit you with a treat and release a song entitled "Train Wreck" followed by our first single "Pain" feat. Snoop Dogg, slated for February/March. Album release date is April 29th.
We'll be sure to keep you posted on our progress.
Thanks folks.
Anonymously,
Us.

Eh, it's been a decade; what's another five or six months.

i guess. i just mean to say that nothing crowdfunded comes out on time ever and it would be smarter to buy a finished product if that is your end goal and/or send a check directly.

nothing crowdfunded comes out on time ever

a) this is obviously wildly untrue

b) one would have expected that an entire De La Soul album would run into delays, especially when the funding was so successful that it suggested getting decent distribution would be worthwhile, not just shipping to backers.

a) it's proven by science

b) one would have expected that an album intended to release in 2015 might release in 2015 when that was the stated intention of the artist

can't believe an artist's stated intention for their album release has changed plans for the first time ever!

(they ought to have informed folks ahead of September, definitely.)

(first thing I ever crowdfunded was a lavish hardcover comic that was meant to be exclusive to Kickstarter, but ended up being solicited through Diamond and subsequently available in comic shops something like 6-8 months before mine shipped. I still haven't finished reading it 5 years later bcz of disillusionment. but I've no beef on anything else I've kickstarted or pozibled or w/e)

yeah nothing wrong with delaying a release date if they wanna make things better but not keeping the people who already paid money for it informed is kinda lame

sic, i assume you mean the little nemo book?

I just want my t-shirt

didn't know there was any issue with the Little Nemo book! (and it only came out last year) (mine was the Michael Zulli one which turns out to only be four years ago, not five)

I was gonna guess James Owen, it sounds like something he would do (though sic has too fine taste to fund a James Owen comic)

i saw the zulli was out on the fanta blog but didn't even know it had started as a crowdfund piece!

all facetiousness aside, approaching crowdfunding as a consumer sport is a bad idea; the only reason to go that way is if you want to unconditionally support the artist. to that extent, i'm happy getting whatever de la makes whenever they make it but (from the buyer's end) there's something to be said to having to obey the constraints of a demanding market. It's not like losing the fetters improved, say, prince's output

three new free tracks to say sorry for delay on the kickstarter alb
http://www.audiomack.com/album/2dbz/for-your-pain-suffering

more like two new songs, a skit and an experiment

Yeah these new songs suck. Really hoping they aren't at all indicative of the album.

I just found these...

Yeah these new songs suck.

...and was coming here to say the exact opposite.

the features for the album include Jill Scott, Snoop Dogg, Roc Marciano, Estelle, Pete Rock, David Byrne, Usher, 2 Chainz... also Little Dragon and Damon Albarn but I suppose that was already presumed

oddly, it's "PAIN feat. Snoop Dogg" and "SNOOPIES feat. David Byrne"
did they maybe both show up on the wrong day?

The title "For Your Pain & Suffering" seems pretty sarcastic after listening to the music, though I mostly enjoyed it. Wasn't their new album supposed to be called "You're Welcome" at one point?

oh snap this new one w snoop is awesome and v encouraging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vDVDo9w20w

i wanna know who produced this, dave? sounds really good.

Song sounds fine, but I hope the album is more challenging than this. I get that they're older now but it's like they've lost all interest in confrontation and provocation

huh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umdFFR9XVpE&feature=youtu.be

Good read.

thx.

whats that link xp?

throw up the youtube short link

it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umdFFR9XVpE

youtube's are fucking up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umdFFR9XVpE

arrrrrggghhhhhhfzfvs:dbvbsvkn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umdFFR9XVpE

if this doesn't work, i quit
youtube dot com/watch?v=umdFFR9XVpE

all four work for me! idk what everybody's problem w youtube embeds is lately

it's just black bars

All these songs sound pretty sweet, lots of detail in the production.

it's just black bars
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http://i.imgur.com/4LJyDjK.png

basically

I see y'all are having the same problem translating yourselves in a hostile medium as De La has.

Usher. Lots of detail here in both the production and the verses but I do hope this album remembers to be fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=946HNu5YlNM&feature=youtu.be

yeah thats good.

I'm really looking forward to this album, which means I'm highly likely to be disappointed. Really into everything I've heard so far.

oh man that song is wonderful!

Best Usher vocal since 2014 too.

Digging this. Super low key tho.

This album is such a wet blanket

I'm liking it a lot, even the 2 Chainz bit, but not David Byrne's awful appearance.

maybe save it for wintertime xp

The De La Soul is Not Dead: documentray trailer was uploaded to youtube, yesterday.

oh damn it's released already?

xxp yeah I listened to it again with different expectations and didn't hate it as much. I'm still interested in catching up Pos & Dave after all these and hearing what they have to say, but these accompaniments are so low energy, and the guests are so shoehorned in, and the whole thing feels like it's pandering to toothless AAA stations that consider 70 soul revival acts hip and edgy. It's just such an old man record I can't quite get over it.

it's so old man i really tried to get into it . like even the metaphors in the raps are some super outdated references it's embarrassing .