halftime is one of the most beautiful compositions IMO
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 00:12 (nine years ago) link
theres really nothing like it
I got bored of it rly quick :(
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 20 April 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link
wait so the wiki page says stoner and danny glover/2 bitches is going to be on HiTunes... was that confirmed?
― misterjoshua, Monday, 20 April 2015 02:02 (nine years ago) link
i hope not, there's a point at which hit singles get so old that they'd make an album less commercially viable (or interesting as an album) rather than more
― some dude, Monday, 20 April 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link
they've never been commercially released? that's crazy.
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 April 2015 03:06 (nine years ago) link
they should just include them as bonus tracks or something
i hate the idea of a kid in 10 years trying to 'get' young thug, picking up his debut album (his 'good kid maad city') & not understanding which records it were that broke him in the national consciousness
i mean... it's a little silly of a concern maybe, but not entirely imo
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 04:23 (nine years ago) link
like no one today complains that 'halftime' was 2 years old when illmatic dropped. you know?
speaking of 'halftime'/'halftime': conscious move or nah
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 04:24 (nine years ago) link
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they've been commercially released as singles on iTunes and stuff (although "Danny Glover" only got sold as "2 Bitches" many months after its initial impact) but yeah have not been on any full-length release (they were gonna be on some supposed EP that got shelved). and of course "Lifestyle" wasn't on the Rich Gang tape at all. that's kind of not even out of the ordinary these days. "0 to 100" is by far the biggest Drake song of the past year and isn't even on his mixtape.
― some dude, Monday, 20 April 2015 04:36 (nine years ago) link
i would guess the real necessity of including it on an album is for grammy consideration? can't imagine that's a real major concern but who knows.
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 April 2015 05:13 (nine years ago) link
it happens all the time, tack a year or two old hot single onto a debut. i agree with deej that it distorts history but i suspect it still helps move some copies, think of it as like a hedge in case none of the new singles pop, people see the cd on the rack with the sticker on it and say, 'oh yeah, the stoner guy'
― flopson, Monday, 20 April 2015 05:23 (nine years ago) link
'hey, the guy who is stoned'
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 April 2015 05:33 (nine years ago) link
Numbers all day.
― longneck, Monday, 20 April 2015 11:18 (nine years ago) link
it's pretty implausible to even imagine Young Thug getting a Grammy nomination anytime soon. and afaik singles are only eligible the year they're released, regardless of when the album comes out (i.e. "i" got Kendrick a couple Grammys before the album was out).
― some dude, Monday, 20 April 2015 13:36 (nine years ago) link
My fave YT beats are the energetic uplifting booming ones which is why I'm disappointed with these idling downtempos.
Not saying this album isn't good in it's own right.
― Arctic Noon Auk, Monday, 20 April 2015 14:55 (nine years ago) link
popism is partly to blame for ppl shitting on this record imo
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
first time i put this on i had to listen to it three more times, haven't done that with any hip hop tape/album in a loooong time. totally love it
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 20 April 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
popism or the fact that YT made a few actual pop hits last year and there don't seem to be any on this record? I mean I like it but I can understand someone at least hoping for something as immediate as "Lifestyle" or "Stoner."
― some dude, Monday, 20 April 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, April 20, 2015 3:12 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark
isn't it just you willfully misreading what people mean by "hits"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 April 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
he's obviously just saving the hits for the album
― flopson, Monday, 20 April 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
maybe he ran out of hits or accidentally dropped them in the ocean
― lag∞n, Monday, 20 April 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, April 20, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz86prvGGOc
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 April 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
'halftime' > 'danny glover'
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, April 20, 2015 2:33 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sure for a casual listener i get being confused but for a bunch of rap critics to be vexed by the idea of like, album tracks that are also dope? i think among critics its the fault of popism, among regular ass rap fans its more of a classism type thing w/ people who think young thug = migos = all ratchet rap ever
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link
like ppl who can't see a qualitative different between young thug & cash out, say
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
there's such a clear cut expectation of what kind of things a rapper should do or what kind of projects they should release when their career is on the upswing, and Young Thug has kind of confounded them at every turn...when people wanted an essential go-to solo project, instead they got Black Portland, leftovers from Gucci's vaults, and the Rich Gang tape, only the latter of which really satisfied most people or gave them something to rally around, while still not a solo project. i feel like it's possible he didn't realize that when he put together Barter 6, or maybe he knew and didn't care and wanted to keep confounding expectations, which would be consistent with his attitude towards the press, and towards the things people say about the way he dresses, him and Wayne, etc.
― some dude, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
The more I play this the more every song on it sounds like a hit. Not a regular hit, of course, more like a song you actually want to listen to in a number of different settings.
― longneck, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
This unrequited stalker thing with Lil Wayne is weird,
YT sounding like Lil WayneYT wanting to name his album Carter 6Lil Wayne dissing Thug, saying don't listen to his music, and generally fuck himLil Wayne's daughter calling YT a fraud, YT forcing into not calling his album Carter 6Appears in video in Birdman's jetYT calls his album Barter 6Signs to Birdman's labelFirst song features Lil Wayne's "father", Birdman
― Arctic Noon Auk, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
"Never Had It" is my second fav on this so far behind just might be
― 龜, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link
If Halftime's meant to be a highlight, more meme rap pls
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, April 20, 2015 3:02 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
'speed racer' and 'warrior' and the ocean is actually metroboomin's soundcloud
― nose, Thursday, 23 April 2015 00:37 (nine years ago) link
"sure for a casual listener i get being confused but for a bunch of rap critics to be vexed by the idea of like, album tracks that are also dope?" has anyone actually voiced that opinion?
anyway i like this album a lot more than i did at first, a bit dull in the second through fifth innings-ish but otherwise very good to great
― soyrev, Thursday, 23 April 2015 01:35 (nine years ago) link
I actually... LIKE this.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 April 2015 01:52 (nine years ago) link
"I'll get pretty and fuck your father" is a truly terrifying threat.
― longneck, Thursday, 23 April 2015 06:25 (nine years ago) link
^^ Is this a quote from "numbers"? Isn't "i'll get prison and Fuck your father Up"?
― Nourry, Thursday, 23 April 2015 09:26 (nine years ago) link
I like longneck's version better.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 23 April 2015 09:35 (nine years ago) link
It's from Numbers, yes, and there's some debate about what he's actually saying. There might well be a prison in there, but I'm not sure about why he would "get" it. Not hearing the "up" at all though. He's def going for my father.
― longneck, Thursday, 23 April 2015 09:38 (nine years ago) link
to my ears it sounds like longneck's version.
I like this thing as much as his other stuff: there's stuff I skip and total bangers.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 April 2015 10:02 (nine years ago) link
It is 100% "get prison" but there's no "up" at the end
― Number None, Thursday, 23 April 2015 10:09 (nine years ago) link
― soyrev, Thursday, 23 April 2015 01:35 (12 hours ago) Permalink
Yea lots of people have been like "where are the hits"
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:05 (nine years ago) link
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol I mean
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
someone jokingly paraphrasing your characterization of their opinions is not evidence for the accuracy of your characterization
B6 is fine but clearly the new Rich Forever that deej is hellbent on canonizing as the artist's masterpiece regardless of what anyone else thinks
― Take Off Your Chance and Rapper (some dude), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:15 (nine years ago) link
Could it be "fuck niggas wishin i get prison I'll fuck your father"? Would make sense.
― longneck, Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:16 (nine years ago) link
Lol what? I'm not trying to canonize it as his masterpiece and you can do a quick Twitter search for Barter 6 and the word hits, you're liable to find plenty of people whining about the lack of singles on it there
And I'm def not the only one who thinks rich forever is one of Ross' best projects, where are u even getting that from? Is this your way of bringing back the "chief keef had no influence on anything ever" argument you're curiously invested in?
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:39 (nine years ago) link
I didn't just come up with this out of nowhere, like, I saw lots of people from many walks of life complain about the lack of hits. I mean, you can listen to it and hear it actively seems to spurn hit records. Not sure what you're even arguing with
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:41 (nine years ago) link
what comedian does a bit where he threatens to seduce your father and make him fall in love with him and destroy his sense of self? it's gotta be louis, right?
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link
Last night at a boosie listening boosie described his song with young thug and a very aggro beat as his "Chicago record"
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
xp yeah it's a bit called "i hate this one kid" from the beacon theater special
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link
(actual thread-related thought: barter 6 is really good although i havent really dug into thug's mixtapes other than the one with quan so i don't have as many points of comparison)
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link