the reason I asked about diffusion into non irish english is that none of those three egs "She has him crying" (She has made him cry); "I put the fear of God on him" (I frightened him severely); "Have it off him" (take it from him). seem that uncommon from where I'm sitting, granted I did grow up around glaswegians but
― piqued (wins), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link
well you'd have to allow "Gaelic" to stand for "irish" and then there's no question at all of it being the same influence
"O'Nolan's journalistic pseudonym is taken from a character (Myles-na-Coppaleen) in Dion Boucicault's play The Colleen Bawn, who is the stereotypical charming Irish rogue. At one point in the play, he sings the ancient anthem of the Irish Brigades on the Continent, the song "An Crúiscín Lán" (hence the name of the column in the Irish Times).
Capall is the Irish word for "horse" (from Vulgar Latin caballus), and 'een' (spelled ín in Irish) is a diminutive suffix. The prefix na gCapaillín is the genitive plural in his Ulster Irish dialect (the Standard Irish would be "Myles na gCapaillíní"), so Myles na gCopaleen means "Myles of the Little Horses". Capaillín is also the Irish word for "pony", as in the name of Ireland's most famous and ancient native horse breed, the Connemara pony.
O'Nolan himself always insisted on the translation "Myles of the Ponies", saying that he did not see why the principality of the pony should be subjugated to the imperialism of the horse."
just liked how it tied in there at the end.
the xps I'll get to but theyre not common, not as common ime as the examples given in the first post you gave anyway
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link
I'm told btw that German has a similar structure idk if it leads to any similarities in anglo-german what I actually assume is that there is no such idiom as Germans would just learn the grammar properly
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link
its that I'll be striving now to be talking more like this way on ILX since tonight
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link
I think I overtalked wins :(
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 12:25 (eight years ago) link
granted I did grow up around glaswegians but
Double whammy of migration from Ireland (Ulster predominantly) and the Highlands and Western Isles. Was reading recently too about Lowland Gaelic, which was mostly spoken in Dumfries & Galloway, edging into Ayrshire.
― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:01 (eight years ago) link
I was gonna say you'd be worth consulting on it alright
rly this is a good subject for the Irish thread til we get the ideas of the Midlands cru
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:13 (eight years ago) link
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/VaNgQUx-1024x576.jpg
― neetsooh ebebay (wins), Saturday, 25 April 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link
hahaha! love it!
so true!
refrain from fuckin what now?
― drash, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:32 (eight years ago) link
I am reading a fella atm that has the rural irish ear and thought pattern down pat, I will refer name as and when I put my hand on it again but it seemed relevant to note
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 07:43 (eight years ago) link
that Cavan actor made a show of himself btw, accent was awful. everyone else p impressive
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 07:47 (eight years ago) link
the fella to whom I refer is kevin barry, michael b and number none have mentioned him before now that ive done a search. this book of short stories is pretty much peerless as a description of the rural irish wandering chancer and has made my week.
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 May 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link
(aw thx)
― drash, Sunday, 24 May 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link
nice sn
― the story of ilm: an ottyssey (wins), Friday, 3 July 2015 07:10 (eight years ago) link
wha
― irl lol (darraghmac), Friday, 3 July 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link
was rly enjoying the conversation about idiom upthread :(
― irl lol (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 August 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXQHWa5j-YI
― drash, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link
btw plan to adopt “mar dhea” into my personal lexicon
it covers an awful lot
― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 August 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link
darraghmac - elderly irish poster who registers for ILF in february 2053. initially hamstrung by his haphazard vietnamese and total ignorance of the subject of fabergé eggs, darraghmac is cautiously indulged despite his coarse and prejudicial views towards silicon based lifeforms. while insisting that he has never had any interest in or knowledge of fabergé eggs, he tells yarns about a mythical predecessor of ILF where snarky english people argued about the merits of soccerball players and provided an early platform for experimental novelist and 2034 ordre des artes et des lettres inductee phil mcnulty.
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, August 20, 2012 5:33 PM (3 years ago)
E.N.R.Y. Karl for this one deems la
― Sean Daesh (nakhchivan), Friday, 13 November 2015 14:17 (eight years ago) link
Will never not lol
― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Friday, 13 November 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link
deems would u say your social views have become more liberal since moving from connaughtistan to dublin?
― Let’s all go on an unban safari, we might see some ilxor migrants (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link
No I don't think so.
Ive always been p liberal I'm just cranky
― Saoirse birther (darraghmac), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link
Has the been a discernible shift in your mysterious political stances in yr time on ilx?
― Saoirse birther (darraghmac), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link
not sure how i feel about ilafl's embrace of hitler
― Mordy, Monday, January 18, 2016 6:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rip c or d (wins), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link
there does seem to be more of a sort of metropolitan ambience to the deems project these days
― Let’s all go on an unban safari, we might see some ilxor migrants (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link
maybe social there is more of a politics-of-the-everyday thing than about whether u think cattle rustlers should be beheaded (presuming still a tick for that)
― Let’s all go on an unban safari, we might see some ilxor migrants (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link
ilx has made me more liberal to the prospect of tolerating executions for many categories of offenders, though whether to go for public private partnerships or fully liberalize the execution market is unclear
― Let’s all go on an unban safari, we might see some ilxor migrants (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 January 2016 19:54 (eight years ago) link
It's a tough call for me obv professionally I'm agin the outsourcing of these functions but privately I have my reservations as to the efficiency of their provision from the pool of existing public expertises
― Saoirse birther (darraghmac), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5rDDvVJwU
― nakhchivan, Friday, 5 February 2016 23:26 (eight years ago) link
top execution?
― nakhchivan, Friday, 5 February 2016 23:29 (eight years ago) link
Dublin has witnessed several gangland feuds over the past decade since the murder of Eamonn 'The Don' Dunne who is believed to have been responsible for the murder of his close friend Martin 'Marlo' Hyland
Kavanagh's father was Gerard 'Hatchet' Kavanagh, who was lured to his death in Spain in September 2014.
It is understood several members of a criminal gang linked to Dublin criminal 'Fat' Freddie Thompson were in the hotel watching the weigh-in when the gunmen opened fire.
― nakhchivan, Friday, 5 February 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link
why do irish criminals have such basic soubriquets?
U don't speak erse u don't get it
I sit next to a fella his wife is a secretary for the boxing I had live updates on this.
― broderik f (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 February 2016 01:15 (eight years ago) link
Choinneáil Ar An Meme Beo: Peppa's Erse
― christmas capybara (nakhchivan), Saturday, 6 February 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link
http://dublinorganisedcrime1.blogspot.ie/2009/12/sixteen-deaths-linked-to-vicious.html?m=1
I like the current place I'm in but reading through this shit would make you question whether living btwn crumlin and drimnagh is worth the rent haircut
― broderick f (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 February 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link
drimnaghmac-10
― christmas capybara (nakhchivan), Sunday, 7 February 2016 22:42 (eight years ago) link
Been living roundabouts 5+ years and apart from getting some unknown object chucked at my head outside the chipper one evening I've been happily oblivious. You'd have the banter with the youth element of course
― Number None, Sunday, 7 February 2016 23:08 (eight years ago) link
I will but I'll be cutting down on it
Started reading and ended up at Johnny Adair.
Jesus we're not far from madness really are we.
― broderick f (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 February 2016 23:51 (eight years ago) link
village idiot and right-wing cunt darraghmac keeps speaking
― cher guevara (lex pretend)
right-wing?!?
― the late great, Sunday, 7 February 2016 23:52 (eight years ago) link
Whyd I think you were stoneybatter BTW or is that previous
xp ya.
― broderick f (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 February 2016 23:52 (eight years ago) link
me, mordy, couple others, we've disagreed with a cru or two and now it's all labels
― broderick f (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 February 2016 23:53 (eight years ago) link
I uh I like how you've not questioned a or c in the statement mind
― broderick f (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 February 2016 23:54 (eight years ago) link
cause that's a badge of honor, coming from lex
― the late great, Sunday, 7 February 2016 23:58 (eight years ago) link
I remember you asking about the prospects of the Batter at one point, but I've always been somewhere in the Crumlin/Drimnagh nexus apart from an unfortunate sojourn in Phibsborough
― Number None, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
xp true
Nn we are prob due a pint over a match if I've not disgraced myself unknowingly at some stage tbh
― broderick f (darraghmac), Monday, 8 February 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link