Young Thug thread

i think a lot of ppl—not saying here nec. but if the shoe fits—feel like there's been a switcheroo and we thought we were getting this alt-weirdo and instead he's making, like, mainstream-appealing 'regular' formalist rap. but i think he was always moving in this direction

i don't think that was really the expectation. Tha Tour wasn't 'weirder' than B6 in any significant ways, it was just better, maybe more melodic. "Lifestyle" was his big pop hit that sounded like a pop hit, it just happened to have some crazy vocal tics and some lyrical tangents ('somethin' wrong with the pussy') that made it feel like he wasn't watering down what was unique about him.

yeah i'm not saying everyone who thinks this is a step down is saying that, but i think its representative of a portion of the disappointment

these were things i'd hear about the rich gang tape too

were young thug fans disappointed with tha tour? maybe i'm blinded by the random pockets of the internet i frequent but most people i talked with (both online and irl) seemed to think it was his best project.

who do you think released it? it says "© 2015 300 Entertainment" right on the album on iTunes and Spotify.

― some dude, Saturday, April 18, 2015 7:51 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I didn't see those when it first dropped. Not saying they weren't there but there's something very odd about 300's handling of this. There was no official info on Carter 6 from them right up to the moment it dropped. And only then did they rush out to tell us about Hi-Tunes, as if they were distancing themselves from this product right away.

i'd say a lot of people credited Quan with it being as good as it was xp

I didn't see those when it first dropped. Not saying they weren't there but there's something very odd about 300's handling of this. There was no official info on Carter 6 from them right up to the moment it dropped. And only then did they rush out to tell us about Hi-Tunes, as if they were distancing themselves from this product right away.

― longneck, Saturday, April 18, 2015 2:19 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel like you sometimes project too readily narratives that aren't really backed up by evidence

all signs point to '300' being a label that lets the artist make most of the creative decisions & they stick around for marketing & distribution purposes

switching carter 6 from album to mixtape at the last minute doesn't suggest confusion to me as much as a ploy to get as many people buying it as possible, then creating anticipation for the REAL real album

its like you get to roll out two real albums for the cost of one

i'd say a lot of people credited Quan with it being as good as it was xp

― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:19 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these people are wrong

flopson what do u think of this tape?

for whatever reason i feel v resistant to the talk of it being of substantially worse quality

completely love it

nice

maybe when ppl talk about being disappointed in the shift from 'take care' to 'nothing was the same' is how i feel about this relative to the rich gang tape

(which is to say that i didn't think NWTS was worse than TC as much as it was going for something different/more minimal)

the first track and last tracks are so amazing. kind of in the vein of 'givenchy' just thug like i could go forever letting his flow loose on a languorous beat. i hear people on how it's a bit meandering, but imo he is a genius of filling up space on slow tracks. the direction he's going with his flow is so exciting to me. too soon to say how this compares to tha tour but if this is the pre-album mixtape we may be in for a true classic

I didn't see those when it first dropped. Not saying they weren't there but there's something very odd about 300's handling of this. There was no official info on Carter 6 from them right up to the moment it dropped. And only then did they rush out to tell us about Hi-Tunes, as if they were distancing themselves from this product right away.

― longneck, Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is 300's whole modus operandi, though. none of the projects they release are loudly announced as coming out on 300, there's mostly just the artist saying they're releasing a mixtape and the usual hype cycle for that, and then it's on retail with their name on it. you only kinda know that's exactly what's gonna happen if it's someone like Kevin Gates who's already done 3 or 4 projects like that.

gates isn't on 300 is he? he's atlantic/apg

oh right i guess i'm getting all these shady subsidiary situations confused. but like Migos, their last few mixtapes are on iTunes and Spotify via Quality Control/300.

only had a chance to listen to the 1st track from this but that shit is crazy

there's a purposefulness to the way he deploys his vocal style now that i like more; the songwriting is also much tighter imo

this is otm. i love old thug but re-listening now he is spraying all of his vocal ideas at the same time without too much focus

haven't been following the whole beef tbh but this title is a bad look

great cover tho!

I guess you're right about 300. It just feels weird to switch from "album" to "not this isn't the REAL album, that's coming LATER" within days of its release. Opposite of Drake. Everyone knew he was gonna drop a mixtape - it was made into an album for contractual reasons. Also, the idea that you have to pay for the mixtape violates my sense of what a mixtape should be I guess.

having spent two days with this imo it's great

sheesh

love all the hooks buried in "knocked off"

"feel like folks went from overvaluing illmatic-like consistency a decade ago to overvaluing BANGERS"

idk if this is a change in taste really. i think the illmatic crowd still wants that; the people into weird rap bangers now are an audience (primarily a young audience) that are largely separate from the 'classic album' crowd and always have been. i'm personally kinda in both.

do love "about the money" but don't think this album needed bangers necessarily, just a bit more variety. that said, upon multiple listens, i'm totally behind "constantly hating," "amazing," "knocked off," "can't tell," "OD," "numbers," and imo thug's masterpiece to date, "just might be." if i lived in LA i would drive around listening to this stuff constantly. gotta check out the tapes i've missed.

oh and @misterjoshua i don't hate anyone here looking up my lastfm stats. if anything i'm kinda impressed...~.~

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Thug_discography#Albums

like how he's credited here as the "tit lead" artist, as in the carbon metal

Cool if I chill here with yall things on ILE got kinda heated

fucking late to this party but "givency" really is amazing

'halftime' is so god damn crazy

halftime is one of the most beautiful compositions IMO

theres really nothing like it

I got bored of it rly quick :(

wait so the wiki page says stoner and danny glover/2 bitches is going to be on HiTunes... was that confirmed?

i hope not, there's a point at which hit singles get so old that they'd make an album less commercially viable (or interesting as an album) rather than more

they've never been commercially released? that's crazy.

they should just include them as bonus tracks or something

i hate the idea of a kid in 10 years trying to 'get' young thug, picking up his debut album (his 'good kid maad city') & not understanding which records it were that broke him in the national consciousness

i mean... it's a little silly of a concern maybe, but not entirely imo

like no one today complains that 'halftime' was 2 years old when illmatic dropped. you know?

speaking of 'halftime'/'halftime': conscious move or nah

they've never been commercially released? that's crazy.

― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they've been commercially released as singles on iTunes and stuff (although "Danny Glover" only got sold as "2 Bitches" many months after its initial impact) but yeah have not been on any full-length release (they were gonna be on some supposed EP that got shelved). and of course "Lifestyle" wasn't on the Rich Gang tape at all. that's kind of not even out of the ordinary these days. "0 to 100" is by far the biggest Drake song of the past year and isn't even on his mixtape.

i would guess the real necessity of including it on an album is for grammy consideration? can't imagine that's a real major concern but who knows.

it happens all the time, tack a year or two old hot single onto a debut. i agree with deej that it distorts history but i suspect it still helps move some copies, think of it as like a hedge in case none of the new singles pop, people see the cd on the rack with the sticker on it and say, 'oh yeah, the stoner guy'

'hey, the guy who is stoned'

Numbers all day.

it's pretty implausible to even imagine Young Thug getting a Grammy nomination anytime soon. and afaik singles are only eligible the year they're released, regardless of when the album comes out (i.e. "i" got Kendrick a couple Grammys before the album was out).

My fave YT beats are the energetic uplifting booming ones which is why I'm disappointed with these idling downtempos.

Not saying this album isn't good in it's own right.

popism is partly to blame for ppl shitting on this record imo

first time i put this on i had to listen to it three more times, haven't done that with any hip hop tape/album in a loooong time. totally love it