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Whoa - didn't know anything about it! I've been bad about following his stuff recently, or really following anyone's work. Bodyworld remains my favorite of his, by far. Has he talked about the "remastering" of it anywhere? It'll be interesting to do a side-by-side comparison with the book to see what he's changed.

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 April 2015 16:20 (five years ago) link

also just seeing this; yeah i really like reading him talk. i love that whole tangent he pursued about david mazzucchelli's dumb line. did you read doctors, yet? hey also did abbott read doctors yet. doctors is great.

+ i just bought cosplayers but haven't looked at it yet. there's a new one in the comic-book-day free comic book, too, i think.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:49 (five years ago) link

I haven't read Doctors yet! ...but I just added it to my cart, so, soon. :)

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 April 2015 16:53 (five years ago) link

whoa the remastered version of BodyWorld somehow even more depressing
i don't remember that last chapter / epilogue at all?

Nhex, Sunday, 19 April 2015 22:11 (five years ago) link

Read Doctors today - great story & art. I liked BBB but this is pretty great too.

BlackIronPrison, Sunday, 19 April 2015 22:17 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

doctors maybe gonna be a movie:

did anybody get his free comic book day comic? i work saturdays, it is hard to be schlump, i showed up & they were all gone, i also just read #cosplayers i & am mad to be deprived of a sequel

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 03:00 (five years ago) link

i meant to say, i just read doctors! i kinda fell behind on his stuff but upon the last thread revive i got a copy. it's really great, one of my favorites of his. wish it was longer but that's not the worst feeling.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 03:16 (five years ago) link

hey i am so pleased. isn't it great? i like it as much as any of the others, i think. whenever he's talked about his next book it's sounded like he's moving away from the 'dumb line' style of doctors & new school, & i'm almost sad; doctors felt so imaginative & reverberative, i think in part because it was so open & mixed up & spacy. i really hazily remember just the ambient sense of propriety in the woman at the beginning's home & life, or the weird beautiful spin off vignette of one of the guys who worked for the company walking around town thinking to himself about finding love. just so rich for something so succinct.

it's kinda greedy given that he's more prolific than other people, but i wish there was just an infinite conveyor belt of these books. i think he's concentrating on animation? did anybody see any of his animation stuff?

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 03:31 (five years ago) link

Cosplayers #3 was a FCBD exclusive?!!?

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 04:00 (five years ago) link

Thr third frame is so good

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 04:34 (five years ago) link

I bought #2 in America last September though

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 06:13 (five years ago) link

feel bad whenever i remember i left this ^ hanging, ty for correction, i will try to find. am about to read the free comic book day story. maximum dash in my life.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 7 June 2015 00:17 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

I asked multiple Fanta employees if there was a way to get the FCBD book when I was back in Seattle late last year, to no avail

glandular lansbury (sic), Sunday, 13 March 2016 12:38 (four years ago) link

Was that what happened to The Ruined Cast? I backed it on Kickstarter and never heard anything about it.

dan selzer, Sunday, 13 March 2016 14:28 (four years ago) link

Last update from him on it was back in February 2015,

Sorry I just saw these... I am told the producers are sending an update this weekend. Obviously there is a lot to report so I will leave it to the letter to fill in. It is still going but on hold. New animation with different producers will satisfy dvd+ rewards. New animation is all drawn, currently in sound/editing phase, but still a year away. Update forthcoming and it's more in-depth than this... Thank you,

Karl Malone, Sunday, 13 March 2016 15:28 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Cosplayers now to be a hardcover, boooo

glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 02:54 (four years ago) link

can't rly figure out what it is, is it the prev comics & something new or ???

presumably the 2.5 existing issues + new

glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 03:31 (four years ago) link

i am urging the representatives of this board to put partisan politics to one side & declare themselves Hyped for this release

there is the all-nouveau quaker thing forthcoming also

five months pass...

Created by acclaimed cartoonist Dash Shaw and published this month by Fantagraphics, Cosplayers is a weird book. It’s not a paean to the creative skills of folks who make their own Batsuits and Iron Man armors, and it doesn’t use them as the butt of dork-snickering jokes, either. Originally released in single issue form from 2014 to 2016, the linked vignettes in Shaw’s new graphic novel use cosplay to explore areas where the membranes between fantasy dress-up and IRL personality tensions are most porous.

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 September 2016 23:26 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

^ i liked this + am hyped to pickup cosplayers christmas

also hey what is this v bottomless bellybutton wave sketch-

schlump, Friday, 30 December 2016 23:12 (three years ago) link

I ordered the Cosplayers collection ages ago, was supposed to get it before xmas and got two to give one as a gift, but it's been pushed back.

dan selzer, Saturday, 31 December 2016 02:12 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

6 years ago i contributed to dash's The Ruined Cast kickstarter - his first feature animated film. today i got this update:

Hi Everyone,

Thanks so much for all of your patience!

Sometimes the path from a film’s development (which this campaign supported) to production takes unexpected turns. In this particular case, along the way to putting together The Ruined Cast, Dash had an opportunity to make another movie, also written by him, applying the techniques and lessons learned during the work that you supported.

The outcome of this campaign meets — and hopefully you’ll agree, exceeds — the bar that we intended, of Dash making his first animated feature film.

The movie is My Entire High School Sinking into the Sea, which played to rave reviews over the past several months at the Toronto International Film Festival, the New York Film Festival and Fanastic Fest. It opens on 4/14 at the Metrograph in NYC and the Nuart in Los Angeles. Dash will be at the Metrograph screenings throughout opening weekend. The other theatrical dates are listed on this site:

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:24 (three years ago) link

here's the trailer:

starring...jason schwartzman? lena dunham? reggie watts? maya rudolph? and...susan sarandon??

really looking forward to this

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:25 (three years ago) link

"just jump - i'm buff enough to catch you!"


Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:26 (three years ago) link

apparently 6 years ago i backed the project at the "A limited-edition print of an image from the film suitable for framing!" level, so looking forward to getting my susan sarandon print in the mail!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:36 (three years ago) link

I backed it 6 years ago too, but I got a poster already for it, printed by a guy I later ended up working with a bit.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 17:55 (three years ago) link

oh hey this is showing in my city next month, must remember to go see

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 19:13 (three years ago) link

i haven't kept up with this dude's work since bodyworld

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 19:14 (three years ago) link

Doctors and Cosplayers are both great

dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:55 (three years ago) link

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 02:12 (three years ago) link

i'll try to find some of those. probably should've made the effort to see him this weekend at the Metrograph

Nhex, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 03:08 (three years ago) link

whoa, that's awesome forks, thanks. i've been reading through his other articles on (discipline) (cosplayers) (high school sinking) (u.s. premiere of high school sinking at fantastic fest) (more thoughts about fantastic fest)

(i put what they're about in parentheses). they're really well written, just a casual look into his process and what he's thinking about as works on various projects. for example, this bit describing his work on high school sinking:

When I first started making longer animations (the IFC webseries I did in 2009) I would only storyboard. I’d read that that’s what Miyazaki did. He’d storyboard and then people would write scripts based on his boards. That made the most sense to me, as I believed film was primarily a visual medium (something I no longer think).

However, in order to get other people involved (like actors, and producers, and editors) I had to start writing scripts for them. I spent years writing scripts for different projects and went to the 2010 Sundance Screenwriting Labs and did a lot of back-and-forth working and reworking scripts only to have them change dramatically once I storyboarded them.

Now what I’ve arrived at is this: I write a script (which takes a year or two), show it to some people, and then storyboard it and then rewrite the script based on the storyboards. The storyboarding happens in the middle and I consider it part of the scriptwriting process. Jason Schwartzman told me that when he was offered The Grand Budapest Hotel, he was sent simultaneously the script and a private Vimeo link to a drawn animatic of the entire movie with Anderson doing all of the voices. When I heard that, it completely made sense to me… Movies are so complicated and expensive, and screenplays are difficult to decode. You have to in some way completely visualize it and have something to show to get other people involved and on the same page. Especially when you’re making an animated thing with an unusual aesthetic, it’s nearly impossible to just hand someone a screenplay of it. I was only able to get the High School Sinking cast after I had the majority of the film drawn. I was able to show producers and other people sections of the movie and say, “This is what this is — I’m making this thing and I want you involved.” Which is a completely different position than “Here’s a word document describing something I want to make.”

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 08:14 (three years ago) link

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