Rolling UK Comedy Thread - "Ricky Don't Lose Larry David's Number

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acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:45 (sixteen years ago) link

"Blunder" (2006)


Series Writing credits
Steven Burge (unknown episodes)
Simon Farnaby (unknown episodes)
Tom Meeten (unknown episodes)
David Mitchell (unknown episodes)
Rhys Thomas (unknown episodes)
Tony Way (unknown episodes)
Glynne Wiley (unknown episodes)

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link

i've managed to avoid Hary & Paul all too easily so far.

blueski, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

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most of them started of as performers thou i thought? well certainly Mitchell and Thomas.

i dunno i was thinking that some of the best gagsters around are ex music journos, well swells and qunatick anyway.

i reckon "performers" rather than "writers" is why there is so much bad character based comedy about. i believe mark wooton is being given a third chance by the bbc, apprently he's a decent comic actor but fuck me the matriel isn't there.

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link

didn't most of the pythons start in the industry as writers for established performers?

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Cleese and Chapman started off writing sketches for Dick Emery, I know that much.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i am thinking of a very definite style. lots of mugging, lots of "the voice". think ayoade, think star stories.

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Ayoade is a modern day nadir, obviously, but then he's just yr common-or-garden "he ran Footlights, we have to give him a career" douchebag, right?

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Harry and Paul is v bizarre. I just can't quite work out what they're trying to do (unlike the rash of other new sketch shows where it's really easy to work out what they're trying to do, and it's not funny).

ledge, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

yeh i guess but it's the same thing. it's the performer attempting to create his own material and coming up with, well, mugging rather than jokes.

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Harry and Paul is kinda... you know when old bands play low key gigs to work out "if the magic's still there"? It's kinda clear that with them two it isn't.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:05 (sixteen years ago) link

john oliver been nicked by the mericans innit

Alan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i like ayoade as a performer. he's got comedy timing. i don't know how much as a writer.

Alan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Surely Ayoade's "performance" consists entirely of wearing a funny wig and talking in a funny voice?

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Ten years ago, he could have been a pretty good regular guest on Noel House Party, he could have been Sammy the Shammy's comedy nerd sidekick.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

did you see his Dean Learner show? painful. i din't mind him in the IT Crowd but i wish he'd drop that voice he does.

sorta xpost

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i saw a trailer, and it looked rub, so didn't bother. if that's his writing or improv skeez, then stuff it. but i do like the dean lerner character. not so much the 'i'm being a bad actor' bits in darkplace, but the insert talking heads bits.

Alan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Coogan begat Pegg begat Ayoade

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:19 (sixteen years ago) link

It's like a half-life of comedy talent.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Too many actors, and too many "comedians" who want to be actors eventually

Tom D., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link

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Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

even Jamie Theakston got to be in a sitcom.

blueski, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

> i've managed to avoid Hary & Paul all too easily so far.

i have been watching it (fills the gap between HIGNFY and Derren Brown / Peep Show on ch4 without needing to turn over. i r lazy). i do like the eastern european cafe girls, nelson mandela hawking alcopops and the posh surgeons. and the art boutique. the rest of it feels a lot like H&P doing Little Britain (in fact, some of the above feels like H&P doing LB). oh, what Dom said.

koogs, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Dean Learner is barely a character. It's a "funny" voice and some "funny" mannerisms. the tv show didn't work because it didn't make sense, he was somehow meant to be incredibly naive and incredibly ruthless. really all of it was just set up for lame pastiches. i mena Kevin the Teenager was a far better character even if he was a sterotype 'cos you could understand it. if a character doesn't ring true then it's hard to accept the jokes they are delivering.

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i do like the eastern european cafe girls

It's not funny tho, is it?

Tom D., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Neither was Ted and Ralph, tbh.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

oh jeez HIGNFY, how more reactionary can that show get?

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, it sounds dumb, but in a sketch show you have to have some stuff that isn't "funny", and is clever or touching or whatever. Rowley Birkin's dead girlfriend, that kinda stuff.

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Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

nelson mandela hawking alcopops

explain me where is the humour... comedy blackface? A famous paragon of virtue promoting illegal and harmful products?

the art boutique

yeah that's good.

ledge, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link

HIGNFY seems to have really lost it now. axe it. come back in a year with a similar yet different show.

blueski, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link

mock the week, then?

hmmm.

Surely Ayoade's "performance" consists entirely of wearing a funny wig and talking in a funny voice?

Andy Millman to thread!

CharlieNo4, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Mock The Week seems better than HIGNFY at the mo. I get the impression the choice of presenter for MOW is a bugbear.

blueski, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Never watched Mock the Week, has it got crap comics on it? Like that Scottish guy?

Tom D., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

mock the week is excruciating

Alan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I refuse to watch any show with the word "Mock" in the title

Tom D., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

> A famous paragon of virtue promoting illegal and harmful products?

pretty much. i also find it's quite a fond portrayal of him.

only funny thing about the U2 sketch (which is only 20 years after R&M did the same thing with slade) is the doctored Joshua Tree(?) poster in the kitchen.

they do seem to be hammering things into the ground though. barbican man for instance. same thing 6 times.

still some good lines on HIGNFY. ferne was bad though.

koogs, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link

that Scottish guy can make me laugh. probably the voice.

blueski, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

mock the week, dead ringers and HIGNFY = AXIS OF FAKE SATIRE

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link

john prescott... HE'S FAT!

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

gordon brown... HE'S SCOTTISH!

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

barbican man for instance. same thing 6 times

I think the one about the independent was meant to be the master punchline. It did make me smirk.

The serth efrican character seems to be entirely predicated on the fact that enfield can do a very good serth efrican eccent.

I only recently got the pun in "mock the week".

ledge, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

david blunket... HE'S BLIND!

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

david cameron... WE'RE ALL GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM

Tom D., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

hmmm i wonder if a cameron government would spawn some better "angry" comedy. i doubt it.

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Who is angry?

Tom D., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I suspect Cam's quite an oldschool Tory at heart and the Blairification of the Conservative Party is a cosmetic thing that won't last long after the next election. So, yes, it might do.

chap, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

well no one at the moment Tom D. that was my point about FAKE SATIRE.

also Dom's sketch shows need pathos theory only fits with the one example he gave. possibly.

acrobat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Nothing, NOTHING, is as bad as Get A Grip.

The Scottish bloke on Mock the Week (Frankie Boyle) makes me laugh too, but mostly because he gets better lines and a lot of it is in the delivery. Also Dara O'Briain >>>> 90% of the guest hosts on HIGNFY. Hislop and Merton are just going through the motions, and it only works when they get someone they can react to/interact with, and who has the brains to keep it going rather than just reading off autocues. Scrap the "lolz, it's Boris/Joan Collins/Charlotte Church, this'll be a laugh" hosts and keep it to whichever Armstrong/Miller it is that's good, Hugh Dennis and (probably) Clarkson, and you're probably just about OK.

ailsa, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

My mum says the Lee Mack thing is funny.

chap, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

"Mock the Mack"?

Tom D., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link


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