being a bad offensive player on the wing/perimeter is a much harder sell than being a bad offensive player down low imo
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 April 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
matt obviously like if a team had the best four starters in the league it wld be "fine" to have whoever playing with them, u r a master class in pedantic bad faith point missing
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
it wouldn't be fine, you'd notice it for sure if they had, for example, austin rivers in the lineup.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 April 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
it seems obvious to me that thabo is a useful and competent regular season player who becomes a big sore thumb in the playoffs
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 April 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
but if you had 4 offensive studs? A guy like Thabo would fit in well. xp
we've had way too many arguments about thabo sefalosha on this board
well he is very bad
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
http://www.82games.com/1415/1415ATL.HTM
http://www.82games.com/1415/1415LAC.HTM
seeee
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 April 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
eh, rivers hasn't made the clippers worse per se, bc the bench wasn't exactly a model of efficiency before his pops traded for him - not the best example
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 10 April 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link
austin rivers is basically like the worst guard in the nba though
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 April 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
i am happy to concede that austin rivers is worse than thabo, like thabo is a minimum contact 11th man, rivers is a 3rd tier foreign league player
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
thabo got a 3 year deal
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 April 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
from a front office that isn't dumb
i don't think you want to be playing him in the playoffs though (problem solved)
terrible deal
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
jr
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCQXGDuUAAAFDWY.jpg
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
dont stand around outside the club shd be in the rookie training weekend
Thabo is what, the 8th man?
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
I think it's fine to have players who offer nothing on defense or nothing on offense if they're exceptional and Thabo is exceptional on defense.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
paying thabo like ~5% of your salary cap isn't egregious
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 April 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
i'm not sure i would do it, if i was running a team, but it's not the worst thing in the world
i don't think he's underrated though
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 April 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
As is Iguodala, which is why two really good teams have them in the rotation xxp
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
Thabo definitely not underrated, he's pretty widely respected as a role player. One person here underrating him tho.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
well, you overrate him
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 April 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
overrating a euroballer, shocking
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0fzDo9I9EQ
― balls, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
lol in other news about things allen iverson did or did not do http://deadspin.com/espns-jorge-sedano-told-an-allen-iverson-club-story-tha-1697024218?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
i don't think you want to be playing him in the playoffs though (problem solved)― J0rdan S., Friday, April 10, 2015 2:57 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is a key pt, i think his presence on court is definitely a liability in the offs. dont want to decrease opp cost of doubling korver or milsap or teague
― head clowning instructor (art), Friday, 10 April 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
xp i heard that on the podcast and it sounded like bullshit at the time plus sometimes sedano is annoying (that whole cast is often a shitshow tho usually amin is on pt)
― head clowning instructor (art), Friday, 10 April 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
man you know you're in trouble when jr smith is giving you dad advice
― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 April 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, April 10, 2015 3:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
how much of this was a scott brooks problem vs a thabo problem tho. on a team with a real offense it should be less of an issue
― k3vin k., Friday, 10 April 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
well scott brooks played him in the playoffs so that's a scott brooks problem. not being a playoffs player is a thabo problem.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 April 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
if the hawks played teague-thabo-korver-millsap-horford in the playoffs thabo would get an open look every possession, this is basically what happened with okc too and wasn't a workable offense
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 April 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, April 10, 2015 5:35 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
right i just meant to what extent were his offensive deficiencies magnified due to playing for a coach with a bad offensive scheme
in any event i don't think thabo is underrated, everyone around the league knows what he is and what he does. he gets dserious minutes from a good coach on a very good team. and his advanced numbers support him being a big plus on defense and a big minus on offense.
― k3vin k., Friday, 10 April 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
scott brooks is a dummy but idk what coach can get scheme around a non-offensive wing being unguarded in the playoffs
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 April 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
jfc now afflalo is down, portland what did you do to offend the gods
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 10 April 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
only one-two weeks, cross yr fingers he's back for game one
― Clay, Friday, 10 April 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, April 10, 2015 9:43 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dude the whole thabo debate started because he WAS being guarded, remember
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 April 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
in fact, that's why he got that nasty dunk youtube itt
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 April 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
hope baze has small feet
Chris Vivlamore @CVivlamoreAJC 3m3 minutes ago
So @24Bazemore took a big basket full of old sneakers - which he signed - to give to kids before game. "Spring cleaning." #ATLHawks
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 April 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
btw as a percentage of net worth Iverson is way below my average strip club expenditure.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 10 April 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
o man stop the wiz nets game they're dead already
― slothroprhymes, Saturday, 11 April 2015 00:16 (nine years ago) link
These minutes muscala's getting with the starters are huge. Think he's gonna be the first big off the bench in the playoffs
― Heez, Saturday, 11 April 2015 02:03 (nine years ago) link
celtics won 6 in a row on the road
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 April 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link
Spurs and rox tied with 4 to go
― Clay, Saturday, 11 April 2015 02:24 (nine years ago) link
Damn I leave u guys alone for 36 hours and I come back and the joint is full of arguments about thabo sefolosha
― juice college (agent hibachi), Saturday, 11 April 2015 02:32 (nine years ago) link
Sometimes I think Timmy is the goat.
― #wegonnabechampionship (Spottie), Saturday, 11 April 2015 02:36 (nine years ago) link
harden...
― Clay, Saturday, 11 April 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link
rockets homer announcers make a harden MVP comment every five minutes
That pass from jet was crazy
― #wegonnabechampionship (Spottie), Saturday, 11 April 2015 02:38 (nine years ago) link