Breaking -- The human race has waived Josh Smith: 2014-15 regular season thread part 2

his upper mouth doesn't move much when he talks, makes him a pretty a severe mumbler

hes "bad" at "basketball" being a perimeter defensive specialist is just not enough, there is literally in which its fine to get nothing from one of yr players on offense

― lag∞n, Friday, April 10, 2015 4:17 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

-no situation-

― lag∞n, Friday, April 10, 2015 4:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/PHO/929998.jpg

well i did include -perimeter- in there for a reason, also the league has changed since then

lol whatever man

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12648764/how-stephen-curry-developed-top-flight-defender

The Warriors basically just orbit defensive specialists around 2 good offensive players and could have won 73 games if they'd wanted to.

their defensive specialists can do competent offensive things

thabo like cant do basketball things

Iguodala is a pretty fucking wretched offensive player at this point

yeah i don't think losing thabo dramatically alters the hawks odds, he'd barely been back and can't imagine he was a big part of whatever strategy budd is working on, but he was definitely a contributer and i don't think they're better off w/o him by any means. whether he's an asset or liability on the court dependent on the situation but that's pretty much what bench players in the playoffs are useful, bandages for specific contexts.

theres a difference between being like just inefficient and just not being able to make basic drives/passes and so forth

thabo's per 36 is 10-8-2-2 with 1.4 turnovers, he's not a YMCA player man

http://deadspin.com/the-nba-players-union-isnt-happy-with-the-nypd-1697036846

hes a ymca player

I think you've seen him do some embarrassing stuff occasionally and are hating a lil' bit

I think if you throw the ball to thabo and no one is there he can dunk it and stuff

maybe if no one is there

saying Iguodala was "inefficient" would sound better if there was actual production going with it

a straight routine drive to the rim with like an at all contested finish is dicey for him tho

Iguodala per 36: 10.7-4.5-3.9-1.6-0.4 w/ 1.6 TOs
YMCA Thabo Sefo: 10.3-8.2-2.8-2.0-0.8 w/ 1.4

as a fixture on the ymca circuit i can tell you he is not a ymca player

iggy had a minute when he was playing better but yeah he really fell off a cliff the last few years whats up w that, i guess he is kinda the prototypical reliant on athleticism type but he always seemed like a decently skilled player even if he never had one really good offensive skill

iggy at least defenses still guard even if maybe they shdnt thabo u dont have to guard

one time they filmed a real world dc at my ymca and the cast tried to play in a pick up game. they were definitely not ymca players

imo the reason thabo can't shoot anymore is that defense started guarding him a little (slow release)

thabo shooting 41/32 while never being guarded btw not sure what that is in per 36min averages

thabo had two years where he shot the three well

I just totally disagree with the idea that there's no place for defensive role players. You really don't need 5 great scorers on the court, as the Warriors are proving. Yeah Bogut can pass a little, and a guy like Rodman had OREB and passing too, but it's ok and perhaps even a net positive to have guys who are entirely focused on defense. There hasn't been some sea change where guys like that aren't useful. They were useful back in the 70s and 80s when pace was high and they're useful now too.

thabo had two years where he shot the three well

― lag∞n, Friday, April 10, 2015 6:28 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

right and the league adjusted imo. Started doing soft close outs.

i feel like in todays game u need to be able todo some offense, like even if u are big #1 rim protecting center at least be able to catch and dunk on the roll

I mean look at the Rockets with Pat Bev. There's not a lot on offense there, and they really miss him.

i mean like fine i u want to use him situationally off the bench to cool down a primary scorer but they cldve got someone better for that role prob

beverly can like dribble and stuff, thabos a stiff!

well he's a point guard, relative to their positional skill set we're talking about a similar situation

I mean Thabo's getting 10 pp36 somehow right? if he's doing that without dribbling I'm impressed!

the hawks offense is god is how i break it down to an extent

Well that's the situation where defensive role players thrive so...

but if they got someone better then they wouldve been even better

i mean they gave that dude 4m a year for three years!

theres a million D and no three players available for way less than that

Well now you're changing gears

imo the thing with thabo is he's like the most replaceable player i can think of

thabo sefolosha is definitely replaceable. but it makes perfect sense that he won a title with that pistons team - which was a madcap collection of roleplayers and B+ dudes w/o a clear star (although i guess sheed was more of a star than even the best-known hawks player) - and also why he's on a team like the hawks now.

uhh

you are thinking of someone else i think?

aw what the hell. *facepalm*

i was thrown by the picture matt deployed which is in fact ben wallace and my mind went poof, woooowwww

let me make up for that incredibly dumbassed mistake with a predictable yet amusing thing about allen iverson i just read, as told by matt barnes:

One early lesson came from Iverson, his teammate for half a season in Philadelphia. “Allen was the first guy that showed me how NBA players spend money in strip clubs,” Barnes says. “That guy went. HARD. He’d throw so much money, and this was when I was first in the league, that I used to take my foot and scoop the s— under my chair and either re-throw it or put some in my pocket. He’d throw $30,000, $40,000 every time we went. I’m like, ‘You realize what I can do with this money?’”

Allen "Down Payment" Iverson they called him

lmao