ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

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Ha yeah remember Metzger talking about his bone picks and how plastic "bums him out" st the show we played with him?

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link

Well now, I just heard an alluring behind-the-waterfall dispatch from the following album (KMUW's Global Village, weeknights at 7 Central---shows are posted 'round about midnight usually)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71JazoULEHL._SL1500_.jpg

dow, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link

cool not familiar

also want to defend the Ryley Walker album a bit from the pitchfork hataz! I mean listen yeah he's a bit much vocally, but you know in the wild and wolly world of folk weirdos I'm pretty used to the vocalisms of Incredible String Band or Robbie Basho or Pearls Before Swine, and god believe me Bert Jansch was a god on Earth IMO but he wasn't exactly Van Morrison or Joni Mitchell when it came to singing either (we'll not discuss Mr. Kottke forays into singing)

and yeah on a certain level Walker plays "dress up" a little bit, but the playing on the album, the production, and especially the band he assembled is really just beautiful playing....even compared to Gunn or Cian Nugent there's a really great Pentangle jazz element to the album that I love and when they jam out, really fluid and dynamic group ensemble playing.

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 April 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link

I know 2 folky music liking people who are not folk weirdos fans or Pitchfork readers and who like Walker now because he has vocals and they are good enough for them.

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 April 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link

I registered for ILX primarily because this thread is so great! Keep it up!

I blindly bought the Ryley Walker LP because there's been such a fuss about it. I don't see what the big deal is. It's a very enjoyable record. Tim Buckley's voice is much more "odd." I thought it seemed tame, actually. Maybe some of this growls are "affected," but it's never deterring (to me, at least). Maybe any affectations are a reference point rather than blatant plagiarism...? How's that? It's definitely better than Pitchfork's Carly Rae Jepsen BNM nod. Pitchfork's always wrong.

The record isn't a game changer or earth shattering, just very nice to listen to on a sunny afternoon. Vinyl sounds great.

jonaknowles, Friday, 10 April 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link

welcome!

sleeve, Friday, 10 April 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link

welcome!

The record isn't a game changer or earth shattering, just very nice to listen to on a sunny afternoon.
^yeah i would say that sums it up

i mean also i would encourage people who say "oh all he's doing is ripping off pentangle" to get a group of your best band buddiees together and give it a shot

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 April 2015 13:23 (nine years ago) link

I don't think Grayson's review is really that harsh. He is actually being specifically critical (to me), and I think states his aim as trying to hold Ryley to a high standard based on what he thinks he is capable of in the future (cause yeah dude is really young still), which I guess is refreshing in a way. I mean, vocals are super-specific hang-ups for any listener too (I cannot listen to Hiss Golden Messenger cause basically I don't like the guys voice, unfair but there you go). I do think it is funny to accuse Ryley of lugging around his influences as a "sign of good taste". If you follow him on Twitter, I am not sure that convincing people he has good taste is high on his list of things to accomplish.

grandavis, Monday, 13 April 2015 13:55 (nine years ago) link

Haha yeah if anything his joy at taking shots at American Primitive icons is borderline trolling

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 April 2015 14:08 (nine years ago) link

Also, the radio show The Avant Ghetto that I am always banging on about has a heavily ILX Brigade-ed show that just got archived:

http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/60248

New Meg Baird (upcoming album on Drag City!), Daniel Bachman, Richard Youngs, Kyle Fosburgh, and a live in-studio set from Steve Gunn, plus tons of other good shit.

grandavis, Monday, 13 April 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link

And yeah UMS, he does not seem overly concerned with cozying up to any particular legacy too much, though he has toned things down a bit.

grandavis, Monday, 13 April 2015 14:13 (nine years ago) link

like a month ago he was saying "Vaseline Machine Gun" by Leo Kottke was like the worst song ever made or something lol

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 April 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link

Man, Rick Bishop was ridiculously good in Charlottesville last night. The crowd was completely silent throughout, and the room is pretty small as-is so kind of an ideal venue for him. He was really into it partially for that reason, seemed to be having a damn good time just ripping through the tunes. The opening raga-guitar piece was just so damn great that I would have taken 45 minutes of just that, but everything was superb. While I like Bishop on record fine, seeing him live is just way better for me. Something about seeing it happen makes it much much heavier.

grandavis, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link

Also, I am pretty into this Tashi Dorji live set. An all electric one, with lots of looping, but so well done, and so percussive/distinct that it avoids almost all dude-with-guitar-and-looping-pedal comparisons. Some really cool transitions etc.

http://www.never-nervous.com/2015/04/because-you-missed-it-tashi-dorji-live.html?spref=fb

grandavis, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link

Full disclosure: that Dorji set is not "mellow", it rips pretty hard for a lot of it, so only dive in if you are looking for that kinda action.

grandavis, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link

as usual, very jealous of these SRB gig reports. said it several times already here, but holy shit, his new album is next level.
thx for the dorji tip!

tylerw, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link

Sure man! Hopefully SRB swings your way at some point. He is always traveling somewhere, I guess it is only a matter of time, unless he hates Colorado for some reason.

grandavis, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link

Man, I can't wait for the Bishop gig here in town next week. Has anyone approached him to say hey? Trying to psych myself up to do so, as he is such an interesting guy... he's lived off and on in Egypt and whether he had to temporarily leave the states or not for nefarious reasons is a favorite story of mine that I've heard. My wife is forever modest when it comes to this subject, but I really wanna introduce her to Rick because her grandmother, Nagat, is one of the singers from Egypt's golden era of the 60s and 70s. Both Nagat and her sister Soad, who was an actress, were good friends with Omar Khorshid throughout that time period. Bishop being a huge Khorshid fan and all. Hopefully I don't come across as too much of an ass, but he seems down to earth though... oof.

Happy Tax day everyone

Neal Cassady, Thursday, 16 April 2015 05:00 (nine years ago) link

Oh, on the subject of Ryley, there's a pretty great interview, 20 whole minutes, on youtube. Took place this past March in Holland. He slightly addresses his approach to vocals towards the end, talking about how he probably 'tried too hard... to be a folk singer' on his first record. Ryley is defiantly a self-effacing kind of guy though, never seems to boast himself. I've always been drawn to him because of that.

I remember there was this point in the evening, prior to a house show I put together for him and Daniel at my apt, where he randomly started singing a song. And at that point in 2011, he only had that instrumental tape out on Plus tapes. It was such a great song, Ryley introduced it as an idea he wasn't really sure about, but everyone encouraged him to go for it. It defiantly took me by surprise. It seemed like to me that the vocals just naturally fell into his daily life, the guitar routine. It would've been a shame if he had continually brushed it off as something to not take advantage of, to not make a full record of vocals.

Interview Pt 1
youtube.com/watch?v=xVvkz0mSBcI

Pt 2
youtube.com/watch?v=1TSLSFqlVt8

Neal Cassady, Thursday, 16 April 2015 05:25 (nine years ago) link

Man, Rick was in a really good mood in Charlottesville, and was very easy to talk to. Definitely go for it Neal, of all people I think you would have a ton to talk about with him. His interest in that stuff is of course not trivial, and neither is yours. Both he and Robert Millis seemed totally approachable and to be having a good time, though part of the reason Rick was so psyched was because the Tea Bazaar here isn't a loud rock club, so he had total silence (and a decent-sized and rapt audience) to play with. He took full advantage, just a wildly good set.

I will probably have good audio of this set for those interested. I will follow up if/when this comes through.

grandavis, Thursday, 16 April 2015 13:59 (nine years ago) link

Since most of us here double dip our toes in both American music and instrumental guitar, I thought I'd share this here. Maybe it's been passed your way already - but first impressions on me are leaving it looking like a fairly decent presentation of traditional music. I'm not aware of a feature film yet about the first recorded musics either. Gonna be presented by PBS this coming fall:

http://www.americanepic.com/
http://www.pbs.org/about/news/archive/2015/american-epic/

There's gonna be physical releases too that coincide with the film, specifically a boxset on Third Man. I know a lot of people come down harshly on what they think of Jack White, but I've dug the Paramount boxsets pretty hard. The most exciting thing about the film is gonna be the unreleased film footage (color in some instances!) of musicians like Mississippi John Hurt, among others.

Neal Cassady, Sunday, 19 April 2015 04:10 (nine years ago) link

cool interview with nathan bowles and josh abrams about 'vertically integrated' music and improvisation

http://bombmagazine.org/article/8444413/joshua-abrams-nathan-bowles/

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link

This is a great interview, lots of interesting stuff to dig into (and the Abrams group live clips are great!). Bowles is a deep thinker, has a lot of good insights into whatever comes up in the interviews I have read. Just cool shit all around.

grandavis, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link

Bowles is a deep thinker
i can't wait to read this! when i saw him with steve gunn's band i could tell even before i knew who he was that he was an intense and focused dude. i asked and asked and global t finally answered the question. he seems like a real gem.
both of these guys are top notch tbh and i can't wait to read this!

(but skimming the intro, for the love of pete will people get it right POPOL VUH is the name of the text and the band
period! was it misspelled in some master tome that i have never read? why do so many people commit this simple orthographical error?)

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link

La Lechera, there is some cool percussion in those Abrams clips, kind of hypnotic repetitive stuff (second clip is a little more wile/energetic), very cool to me. Looks like a good band to see live.

grandavis, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link

american epic doc sounds very interesting. american epic sessions sounds terrible. why do they feel like they have to do those kinds of things?

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

"wild/energetic"

grandavis, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link

i mean i *know* why they feel like they have to do those kinds of things, but i wish they'd just leave well enough alone.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link

xp = cool i'll check it out. dunno who is in the clip but you know who plays with josh abrams around here? my drum teacher :)

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link

Nice!

grandavis, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

Also, agreed on all fronts Tyler. Video series probably gonna be cool, I guess I would be fine if Third Man surprises me on the rest (the Paramount thing was alright, this I am less sure of). We'll see ....

grandavis, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

Bomb piece also somehow manages to misspell Bonnie Prince Billy btw

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link

Hah yeah, Bomb is weird. I have no idea what it is, some dudes from here wrote for it (and still do occasionally) but it was low-interest stuff mostly. Every once in a while they post a good piece like this though (misspelling BPB is pretty low on my list of aggravating things a web publication can do these days, but still a sign that no editing is being done these days). I still have no idea what Bomb is though.

grandavis, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link

Anyone of you Twin Cities folks go see Six Organs/Elisa last night? Just curious and trying to live vicariously as I am not gonna see them this tour.

grandavis, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link

it was great! loud (not quite as loud as lightning bolt the night before) but nice and gritty. chasny and his drummer sat in with her on two songs, hadn't listened to her before, was different than what i expected! will have to check her out more. six organs set was power trio, first bit hexadic stuff (had a music stand up there, which i found amusing) then tweaked arrangements of older stuff. picked up a copy of the book/cards, too, will be interesting.

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link

The new Tashi Dorji album is really nice.

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 23 April 2015 07:08 (nine years ago) link

Is that the Bathetic one? Haven't heard it yet minus one song (which I really like). Hope to pick it up at some point, I like that label, but not in a record buying position right now.

grandavis, Thursday, 23 April 2015 13:34 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's the one

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 23 April 2015 13:59 (nine years ago) link

Cool, thanks!

grandavis, Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:06 (nine years ago) link

The new Tashi Dorji album is really nice.
yesss man it is really great

tylerw, Thursday, 23 April 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link

Guess I am gonna find the money for that one at some point.

I haven't read it yet, but certainly relevant to recent events here. Will Oldham interviews Sir Richard. I imagine an entertaining read I hope to get to sometime today ....:

http://www.oxfordamerican.org/item/572-the-guitar

grandavis, Friday, 24 April 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link

6Ø and Elisa A (and local instrumental rock band) were good last night. Probably wasn't my favorite show but I enjoyed it until someone spilled an entire beer on me for the second time in 2 weeks. I enjoyed Elisa's Clarinet Queen song & story.

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Friday, 24 April 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

that's an excellent interview, thanks xp

sleeve, Friday, 24 April 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Cool Sleeve, glad to hear it is a good one (promising premise for sure). So yeah, going to get it if I can get a batch of work out of the way.

grandavis, Friday, 24 April 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link

I had cooled on the Forsyth band a bit (didn't love all the tunes on IG but still obviously a good record and pretty great live band), but this new song is heading in a direction I am into. Some overt Dead moods being cast, but for me a cooler framework songwise than some of the stuff on IG. Mabe it is just moodier in a way I dig, I don't know. Worth checking though, good audio for the vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGeROJnn5zU&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

grandavis, Friday, 24 April 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link

Ahh crap, I tried to just post the URL, forgot how to keep it from auto-embedding.

grandavis, Friday, 24 April 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

Well, let's see if this one will keep from auto-embedding. Really into this Matthew Mullane set from the VDSQ showcase. a) He is playing a strat so yeah solidarity and b) he does a lot of cool shit that borders on being jazzy and has pretty unique phrasing/tics. Gotta check more of this dude's stuff out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQbgzPZWO1A

grandavis, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link

Damnit, will just post some kind of bastardized version of the URL, the tags that are supposed to just post the linkable URL are still auto-embedding youtubes (pretty sure for both HTTPS and HTTP).

grandavis, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:28 (nine years ago) link

Also, people are seriously fucking with me today and I need some music to get through it. Sorry, this is unimportant shit but I need it today.

grandavis, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link

you gotta put a period into youtube so that it is youtu.be iirc (watch, this won't work now)

https://www.youtu.be.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yQbgzPZWO1A

sleeve, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link


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