indefensible: john gruber

yeah the "real things" amazon does are fulfillment and now AWS, everything else is window dressing and a just staggeringly bananaballs codebase

Didn’t Cook already admit somewhere that the market for the Watch, at the beginning at least, is limited because it requires certain iPhone models? Anyway, not predicting anything here; I have no idea what kind of numbers it’ll do the first year or beyond. But the fact that it’s $349 at the cheapest is also going to limit its market, and especially at the beginning a lot of people aren’t even going to see the point. Perhaps they never will. Perhaps with good reason! We’ll have to see.

i suspect the iwatch will do okay the first round and then not grow as expected cause it doesnt really have a crucial use case

I will be shocked if Watch is not a disaster on some scale but then I don't really know any serious crossfit types

― Clay, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:31 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its not even good as an exercise watch! and regardless that market is tiny

the product is amazon.com

OK, I think I was talking more about tangible goods, but if that’s what we’re talking about, I’m not shitting on their core service. I use it, I like it. Hail Jeff Bezos for all that shit.

the whole nobody needs notifications on their wrist and it's too small for anything else argument persuades me pretty strongly.

"product" is just like can u make something people want to use

are there any "the times we live in now" thinkpieces combing apple watch and health goths

turns out "no", mostly xp

(I'm just bitter b/c of my 10 months working on a totally directionless project don't mind me)

the subtext of the johnny ive new yorker article was so much as i could tell that apple let him make his watch and hire his friend because they were very afraid he would leave the company, and he likes to ride around in a bently not because hes a rich dick but because he really likes the design, as to why he likes the design that is specifically tailored to appeal to rich dicks one was left to speculate

are there any "the times we live in now" thinkpieces combing apple watch and health goths

― Clay, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:37 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the awl has been doing some good normcore/tech articles

The Watch will have more compelling use cases later on. Right now it doesn’t have enough sensors to give us a more comprehensive overview of our health situation. That will come later, in future iterations of the device. I’m sure there’ll be some interesting stuff happening around ResearchKit and the Watch too. It’d be silly if something wouldn’t spring up around that. And I think that we’ll also have to see what app developers do when they get their hands on an actual, full SDK and not whatever the hell they’ve had up until now. So we’ll have to wait until the fall or next year or whenever to see the fruits of some of that work. And anyway, I really need to go and get ready for bed, which is unfortunate because this isn’t actually a bad discussion (thank you all!), but I’m not sure I could actually in good faith tell anyone except people interested in the tech industry and maybe people in certain industries that they would benefit from having the Watch. I think it’s cool. I’m probably getting one. But do I *need* it? Not now. Maybe not even in the future. The market for this could turn out to be small! But maybe it doesn’t. I heard somewhere someone say something like people who have the watch find themselves using the phone less and less. The Watch could keep taking on more functionality that the phone used to have. Maybe at some point you don’t even need the phone when you go out. It’s hard to see that happening though because of screen size issues. We’ll have to see whether the Watch becomes a minor computing platform or a major one. Maybe the next one is VR. Who knows. Anyway, I need to bolt.

turns out "no", mostly xp

― brunch technician (silby), Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:37 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im sure working there is horrible and it is a horrible dystopian company, but i still want to use it, tho tbh a lot less since i moved back to ny from vt

The Awl also has some good articles on the media. Look up Content Wars or w/e.

OK, night.

one thing I feel pretty good about in my life is not having bought anything off amazon in a few years

also I quit facebook and don't own a tv

The Watch will have more compelling use cases later on. Right now it doesn’t have enough sensors to give us a more comprehensive overview of our health situation.

― markers, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:41 AM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

literally the majority of americans are currently eating themselves to death, i assure you there is not a big market for health tracking, im prob in the top 5% (braggin) of healthy living americans and i dont even want to track my health! like you need to a. be interested in health and b. interested in tracking things, that precludes the vast majority of people

as I've mentioned before I'm interested in the Watch b/c I want a watch

its prob not a very good watch!

i track my health by being mad at myself that i did less pushups today than yesterday

it has swappable watch faces!

i track my health by being mad at myself that i did less pushups today than yesterday

― Clay, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:48 AM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same, u shdnt do pullups every day tho, remember recovery is just as important as yr workout, maybe even more, recovery is the point of yr workout in fact

im prob in the top 5% (braggin) of healthy living americans

― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:45 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is def an exaggeration tho

i want to start doing pullups actually, just haven't gotten started. my entire workout routine is "try to walk more" and basically doing crunches and pushups in sets of 30 until i am like "i definitely need to stop doing this"

i thought u were lifting

dude i weigh like 125 lbs what am i even going to lift, a tiny rock?

lift whatever u can man its good!

oh i do some 10lb dumbbell curls while watching basketball sometimes

between hilarious posts on ilxor.com

I sometimes lift my cat up and tell him he's a baby

lol

u shd to thrusters instead of curls imho good compound full body lift

i will try to remember to youtube "thrusters" during the next episode of inside the nba

my personal trainer is the john gruber thread

good choice now u just need APPLEwatch and u will be totes ripped

alternating sets of thrusters and burpees then u cn be on the crossfit games

oh man i learned about burpees a few weeks ago and that shit is rough

particularly because one of my legs is kinda crappy, all that quick standing wears me down pretty quick

yeah i dont really f w them tbh i fell like they are just really hard to coordinate and hurt yr toes, especially if u do them to exhaustion like those lunatics

yeah i don't wanna be crazy i just wanna kick men's asses

theres an ecersize thats supposedly for surfers thats just the popping up part except you land in like a surfing stance its suposed to mimick getting up on ur board which is nice for ur core that ive done before and is more mellow

mostly if do differ core stuff tho: planks, boat pose etc

burpees basically gave me vertigo and made me dizzy and i was like hm no

theyre maybe good if u get used to them idk tho i suspect like all shit crossfit is into theyre mostly designed to injure u

i just found the guy who told me i was a pussy for not doing burpees and i kicked his ass good

my ex-gf's brother and his wife were crossfit people and i literally could not communicate with them

lmao yeah its bad

im sure it makes u like very ripped which is cool

i feel like the john gruber thread has gone in the right direction tonight, you're welcome everyone