missed this thread's existence! The Backspin - which plays old school hip-hop, has evening shows run by Afrika Bambataa and Ed Lover - is one of the sirius stations i flip around on my commute. Even though it's all 15-30 years back now (jesus) it still feels weird to hear whodini and notorious big on the same station, as i still feel that division between "old school" and "new school". I wonder if that's part of the problem with this being a larger market. compare "pop hits from the 60s, 70s and 80s" "rock hits from the 70s, 80s and 90s" "rap hits from the '80s, '90s and '00s" - imo the last feels the hardest to connect
― da croupier, Saturday, 4 April 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link
Whodini (along with Run-DMC, T La Rock, and others who came after them) were considered the new school!
― The Reverend, Saturday, 4 April 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link
I mean that just underlines my point
― da croupier, Saturday, 4 April 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link
New song from Camp Lo and Ski Beats, the guy who produced almost all of Uptown Saturday Night: Black Jesus
― JRN, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link
ooooh give it to me
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
I like it a lot. Short and sweet.
― JRN, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link
they don't fuck with the formula
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
That's great
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 May 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6pSqO0JGDAsomebody give that guy a billion dollars
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 May 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
lol there's footage of that?!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 21 May 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link
two things i think prevent the emergence of "classic hip-hop": first, "classic" anything relies upon a narrative of cultural stagnation- the notion that there isn't any rock music better than zep, or classical music better than beethoven, or jazz better than _kind of blue_, or whatever.
second, "classic rock" is fundamentally a bourgeois institution, and black culture is simply not bourgeois (due to factors including e.g. massive american institutional racism, the most prominent advocate of black bourgeois culture being a serial rapist, etc.)
― rushomancy, Friday, 22 May 2015 05:51 (eight years ago) link
there are some "Old School" R&B stations in big cities. The one here plays 80s/early 90s hip hop mixes during drive time.
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, 22 May 2015 09:49 (eight years ago) link
"classic rock" is fundamentally a bourgeois institution, and black culture is simply not bourgeois
care to elaborate here? Like how do these economic and cultural factors intersect
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 May 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link
funnily enough a classic hip hop R&B station just started in minneapolis
btw I made a Spotify playlist that puts the EPMD "Jane" saga in chronological order
https://open.spotify.com/user/matthelgeson/playlist/4IUtkiGCTmkOHhk1UqXn4Y
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link
haha nerd
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
by which I mean awesome
It's sort of a weird thing I can't really think of a parallel in any other group
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 June 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link
going back to the last revive I recently discovered this 1985 Dr. Dre mix album where's he's playing Egyptian Lover and 2 Live Crew before they moved to Florida
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhGkP9TCdgU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSfxXqg7txI
― The Reverend, Thursday, 11 June 2015 06:35 (eight years ago) link
d'oh, i never published the spotify link:http://open.spotify.com/user/forksclovetofu/playlist/6K4aVwluqiVYsNJikx2NhQ
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 June 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link
The Jane thing is p unusual, and weird that the narrative didn't grow chronologically
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 June 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
9xp)
oh wow rev i had that on cassette, some of that weird macola stuff would make it's way into the wal-mart in my small town's cutout bin of cassettes
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 June 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
wait what is the actual Jane chronology? I think I'm missing one or two songs
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link
there's one on every album, so i figured that was the chronology unless one was a prequel
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:57 (eight years ago) link
Ah I was wondering if I was missing something in 4 and 5. I do have Who Killed Jane
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link
http://www.egotripland.com/gallery/worst-rap-songs-mix/23267/
man this is rough sledding, hilarious though
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 July 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
o wow this is a gift
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 July 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
matt you mind if i start a thread / poll? this needs more ears.
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 July 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link
got to the happy birthday song, can't wait any longer; THE WORLD MUST KNOW
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 July 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link
holy shit
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 July 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link
I remembered Joey Lawrence's musical career, completely forgot David Faustino's
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 July 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
this brian wilson track is among the worst things i've ever heard under any circumstances including personal tragedies
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 July 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
that one's not new to me. Now this "A to the D" track otoh
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 July 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
blurb is right that the beat is fine but his rapping and that voice are so wtf
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 July 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link
ha I've always liked that Dragnet rap
― Most Scientifically Beautiful Face (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 July 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link
i can still kinda remember the bridge
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 July 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link
so to reply to that post i missed on the last revive, time and the development of cultures over time is a basically bourgeois concept because poverty leaves one mired in the everlasting now. it's difficult if not impossible to conceive of a radically different time when one spends most of one's time struggling to meet basic needs.
― rushomancy, Friday, 17 July 2015 01:02 (eight years ago) link
listened to the first four EPMD albums in a row yesterday. was thinking of doing an E vs P poll
― the late great, Friday, 17 July 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link
but i figured this being ILM parrish would get crushed because of "react"
― the late great, Friday, 17 July 2015 01:16 (eight years ago) link
jesus christ this thread title is impossible to search for
I had never heard of this documentary before, looks awesome:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kSsqWNSQqs
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link
Yeh it's really good, love the live footage and the Lovebug Starski bit near the end
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link
god this thread is nigh impossible to search for
watched the first four eps of Netflix's "Hip Hop Evolution" - some good interviews/footage. Nothing particularly revelatory except for maybe the Schooly D part where he refuses to do an interview unless they bring him a chocolate cake with "STAR OF THE SHOW" written on it
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link
haha I just saw that want to check it out this week
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 December 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link
btw all my posts on this thread are going to be prefaced w how difficult this thread is to search for fyi
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link
ha
― Spottie, Monday, 5 December 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLr2K3v34uc
― Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Sunday, 16 April 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXC9oyNMhcI
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 17 July 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link
Group Home LP about to get a vinyl repress
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Monday, 17 July 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
Blu gets a rare CL Smooth guest verse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arzcTCQesgU
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 16:38 (six months ago) link
also Dare Iz a Darkside still fucking rules so much, jabbering drugged out funk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAJfsjoatyg
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 16:40 (six months ago) link
Was just thinking that while hip-hop reissues have been a steady lil business for a minute, no one has really done Rhino/Numero-style discography box sets. The only ones I can think of are the Sugarhill set from 1997 (which was Rhino) and the recent Eric B and Rakim box (which was vinyl only w/ 1 CD of rarities)
― sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 16:53 (six months ago) link
yeah not a ton in general, there's a bunch of different def jam ones but none of them outside of the original silver one (which had a few early gems) really feature anything too rare
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 16:56 (six months ago) link
all eyez on me - full dynamic range edition licensed by earache
― brimstead, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 17:00 (six months ago) link
Like why can't I get CDQ of the 2nd through 6th Kurtis Blow albums?
― sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 17:01 (six months ago) link
sadly that early era is in most need of preservation and least likely to get it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 17:49 (six months ago) link