irlite (get 0) recalls Oversteps, with its excess of 'musical' notes, and that synthetic reverb. i definitely crave more tracks like that -- the dreamy, neon gaseous notes-suspended-in-air quality of Oversteps, with looser percussion.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 2 April 2015 01:23 (nine years ago) link
too many notes
― clouds, Thursday, 2 April 2015 01:26 (nine years ago) link
i think what's happening is that i'm listening to this album like it's progressive rock or something and suddenly it's working for me.
disc 2 is definitely hairier but i feel like it has the most striking stuff, spl9 cloudline and yxy ux or w/e
― Pic Verry (mattresslessness), Thursday, 2 April 2015 05:04 (nine years ago) link
successful and/or fresh stuff i mean
― Pic Verry (mattresslessness), Thursday, 2 April 2015 05:15 (nine years ago) link
shh don't say prog LJ will come and do a track by track comparison with "tales from topographic oceans"
― clouds, Thursday, 2 April 2015 06:13 (nine years ago) link
no love for Quaristice? man does that record sound amazing here in 2015.
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Thursday, 2 April 2015 12:30 (nine years ago) link
Back when we did the autechre poll, quaristice (along with the followup ep) is the autechre era that ended up moving way up in my internal autechre ranking. I
― silverfish, Thursday, 2 April 2015 12:37 (nine years ago) link
Albums that have aged well for me: Untilted, Draft 7:30
Quaristice is one that has actually become more unenjoyable since its release.
In the poll I talked about late period Ae as a jazz band, and in that context a lot of their music, and the improvisational nature of it made a ton of sense to me. Instead of simply improvising notes or progressions they improvise texture, timbre and song structure itself I feel.
Exai is indeed a masterpiece, and coupled with L-Event, Ae seem to be totally hitting a new level of production right now and are totally flying under the radar. I love that every six months or so this thread keeps getting revived by people who are rediscovering it and realizing its mastery.
― octobeard, Friday, 3 April 2015 00:33 (nine years ago) link
Instead of simply improvising notes or progressions they improvise texture, timbre and song structure itself I feel.
The Trees, off of Untilted, is where this idea sort of registered w/me.. As the track progresses, the beat sort of diffuses (around the 3' mark), and that decrepit melody emerges through the smoldering debris. It's almost as if a negative image of the beat emerges, if you can picture smoke in the air, as it's displaced by diff. shaped pockets of air (percussion).. like the surrounding smoke becomes the beat. that's sort of how i imagine the track. but it's also like a terribly corrupted xerox of the originally intact track that keeps deteriorating. not sure how much of this is improvised, and i read that creating the album was a painstaking process, with a lot of determined programming.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 3 April 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
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― Albanic Kanun Autark (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 April 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
no improvisation no jazz no smoke
― Albanic Kanun Autark (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 April 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
i wouldn't say jazz personally, i guess in the broadest sense, there is definitely an improvisational element, or the sound of improvisation. maybe fusion? on a structural level what i hear is still pretty groove-based. groove a. groove a -> groove b. etc. structurally it's very simple. kind of jam band-esque tbh. i mean the sound design and digital synthesis elements are very evocative, world-creating, avant-garde, imaginative, capable, etc., but the structural forms that are being used remind me of .. the grateful dead. no. fusion-era miles to be more charitable since the hit rate is high imo. mostly it's very successful and but sometimes it's just kind of dull and plodding, the melodic language derived from electro / techno can sound amazing or rote like they are repeating a line they did 15 years ago and the groove can sound alive and breathing/evolving or kind of listless and half-awake, etc.
― Pic Verry (mattresslessness), Friday, 3 April 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
that is just how i feel
Confield always felt like their 'jazz' album to me, for some reason ...
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 3 April 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
One thing I love about Exai is that you can hear elements of all their work post LP5 throughout the record. Almost feels like some sort of anthology.
Anyone ever felt their music is incredibly synaesthetic? There is something beautifully sculptural and visually abstract about their music. Every song reveals some sort of evolving visual structure in my head a la their video for Gantz Graf.
― octobeard, Friday, 3 April 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
Confield is probably the last album of theirs that I eagerly return to in full. This is the last Autechre song I can't get enough of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyOGNhdhlAY
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 April 2015 23:14 (nine years ago) link
When I saw matmos live in 07 or 08, it brought to mind fusion-era miles for some reason.
― brimstead, Friday, 3 April 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link
SPL9and CLOUDLINEandRECKS ONpeople. WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED?
― MatthewK, Saturday, 4 April 2015 12:33 (nine years ago) link
YJY UX?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 4 April 2015 12:43 (nine years ago) link
but the structural forms that are being used remind me of .. the grateful dead
Never knowingly heard the grateful dead and I'm not gonna start now, dubious comparisons or no.
― ledge, Saturday, 4 April 2015 12:46 (nine years ago) link
he's only talking about the architectonics -- i.e. instead of ABACABA it's ABCDEFG &c
― clouds, Saturday, 4 April 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link
ABX5¥ヮ◕
― ledge, Saturday, 4 April 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
idk ae's style is pretty straightforward and relatable to me! i've never heard all these imagistic things that ppl talk about so much as a considerate sense of play both with and against form and an ear for cool timbres.
― clouds, Sunday, 5 April 2015 00:16 (nine years ago) link
― Albanic Kanun Autark (nakhchivan), Friday, April 3, 2015 5:35 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
can I just
― Romantic Canon Autech' (imago), Sunday, 5 April 2015 00:42 (nine years ago) link
no
― Albanic Kanun Autark (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 April 2015 00:52 (nine years ago) link
"not even wrong" etc
― clouds, Sunday, 5 April 2015 00:56 (nine years ago) link
On tour
Hmmm that mystery date (not sure why it's a mystery) ...
09/25 – SEATTLE / WA THE SHOWBOX
?
― Brakhage, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link
Live in brixton in nov, allegedly, although nothing on their or the warp website about it. Sold out anyway (allegedly) :(, and 10pm-6am (allegedly), not to speak for all hard-working middle aged ae fans out there but that is way past my bedtime these days :(
― ledge, Monday, 20 July 2015 11:59 (eight years ago) link
(oversteps was £3 in fopp the other day. which is the kind of thing that makes me think of buying a spare copy just to give away)
― koogs, Monday, 20 July 2015 12:05 (eight years ago) link
what https://autechre.bleepstores.com/
live gigs o'plenty
― Brakhage, Thursday, 29 October 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i thought you meant tickets
― ledge, Thursday, 29 October 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link
Invite only...
― koogs, Thursday, 29 October 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link
check your email? i got one, don't know if i signed up to a mailing list sometime or it's because i'm a bleep customer or what.
― ledge, Thursday, 29 October 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
Nope. But then the last thing I bought from bleep was a warp 20 T shirt...
― koogs, Thursday, 29 October 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link
what kind of store is invite only?
are these boots?
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 October 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
oh whoops i didn't realize it was invite only. i bet they're just inviting people on the bleep mailing list if you'd bought something by AE
― Brakhage, Thursday, 29 October 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link
AE_LIVE_KRAKOW_200914AE_LIVE_BRUSSELS_031014AE_LIVE_UTRECHT_221114AE_LIVE_DUBLIN_191214all for .. $23 US, the usual assortment of formats
― Brakhage, Thursday, 29 October 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link
as in, for the lot. not 23 each
jeez i need to take my time with these posts. the cash varies depending on the format, i just fixated on the 24-bit wavs and didn't see the mp3s were half that.
― Brakhage, Friday, 30 October 2015 04:21 (eight years ago) link
there are no words... DUBLIN set is out of this world.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 30 October 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link
Ok I sprung for 'em. Great quality, straight from the sound desk I presume. Whaddya know I actually miss the atmosphere of the dodgy boots. Headphones at work so not getting the full benefit but yeah I am digging Dublin - decent and pretty regular energy peaks throughout.
― ledge, Friday, 30 October 2015 11:18 (eight years ago) link
Who has two thumbs, bought Exai via Bleep and didn't get an invite?
This guYsi
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Friday, 30 October 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link
skipped to the dublin set. damn, this rules.
love the part about halfway thru where this evil buzzing bass throb just takes over the mix.
crank it!!
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
was pretty disappointed with the sound at the venue i saw em at (brooklyn masonic temple) so this is a nice consolation prize
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link
saw them recently in Denver. the sound/mix was about perfect, possibly the best-sounding show i've experienced. it was massive, with a marked clarity to all of the sounds. listening back to various bootlegs it's apparent that they've been playing with the same structure (regularly occurring sections/series of events, in roughly the same sequence) for the last two years.. in a macro- sense, of course. we were floored by the show. a buddy of mine (less of a fanatic than i am) is still going on about it.
these soundboards reveal the early versions of the set that they refined for the North America tour. i've only heard the Dublin recording so far, but it's like, above/beyond anything i would've imagined them to release.. it sounds unreal on the stereo, so clean and *present*, super-detailed, and it's easy on the ears (unlike Exai, which is fatiguing). the music is very wild and playful, relentlessly heavy at parts, often feels like it's bursting at its seams. super fluid. it really does feel monumental, i can't think of anybody else doing this stuff nowadays. it might recall supersilent's more active/cacophonous music, but there's such a liveliness to the autechre stuff that i don't really associate the two acts.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 31 October 2015 04:08 (eight years ago) link
How are you guys able to download those from the AE bleepstore. It says I need an invite?
― Nico, Saturday, 31 October 2015 04:49 (eight years ago) link
Yer name's not down yer not comin' in.
― ledge, Saturday, 31 October 2015 09:55 (eight years ago) link
So they'd rather have me download them illegally? okay, Bleep, whatever you want.
― StanM, Saturday, 31 October 2015 10:13 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, just queued up the torrent after not being allowed to give Warp my money for this.
― cheeseburger, Saturday, 31 October 2015 10:16 (eight years ago) link
lol, I didn't even know they were online somewhere already, that was just theoretical :-)
― StanM, Saturday, 31 October 2015 10:26 (eight years ago) link