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lol adios, teach

goole, Thursday, 26 March 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link

gonna hafta rubber room ya son

j., Thursday, 26 March 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link

Goodbye, Mr. Drips

goole, Thursday, 26 March 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link

i'm so glad ILX is the only permanent record of my social clumsiness

swae lee is the sremmurd for rae dad (crüt), Thursday, 26 March 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link

However, junior Kyle James, vice president of communications and co-sponsor of the bill, said those reporting a microaggression would likely have to reveal their identity if they wanted to pursue any legal action.

New Yorker cartoon in the making:

"What are you in for?"

"I asked someone 'Where are you really from?'"

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 March 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

in the jewish community "where are you really from?" == "where is your family originally from before they immigrated here?" (ie germany, pale of settlement, morocco, iran, bukhara, etc) i guess it means something different in sj land

Mordy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link

is your contempt for "sjws" now so determinative that casual racism is a complete enigma to you

goole, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link

no i'm sure everyone who says "where are you really from?" means it maliciously to mock the person for looking different than them and has nothing to do w/ an inquiry about where their family is from

Mordy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

nobody asks me where i'm "really" from, i'm white

goole, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

they probably don't give a shit about where you're from bc you look like every other white dude

Mordy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

oh another american with german ancestry wow

Mordy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link

'a plainsman, by the look of you'

j., Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link

People don't ask me where I'm from because the name of my city is tattooed on my face

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

"your race is interesting to me right this second, and it does not belong here, discuss it with me politely"

goole, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjjNOwdvVS4

goole, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link

i understand that some ppl are offended about being asked about their family heritage but i am going to remain skeptical that it's intended as a "microaggression."

Mordy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link

"how dare you be interested in me and my background. fuck you."

Mordy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link

the whole concept of "microaggression", take is as you will, or really white supremacy in toto, is that intent is immaterial

goole, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

"microaggressions" tenuous relationship to reality is a bug imo, not a feature

Mordy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link

well, we all learn who our friends are one way or another

goole, Thursday, 26 March 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

is there a clear line between microaggression and garden-variety passive aggression? or is MA distinguished as being limited only to the ways race/class/gender are baked into minor social interactions?

ryan, Thursday, 26 March 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

You know some troll is going to be reporting slights to his Anglo Saxon Cis background ten times a day

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 March 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link

I object to "microaggression" on the grounds that it's a silly word. I give it two more years before no one with a clue still says it, and five more before nobody says it and it becomes terminology of the past.

UNLESS: if people start attaching "micro" willy-nilly to other nominalizations, then all bets are off. I don't see it coming but who knows, maybe we are dumb enough as a people to start saying "microinvitation" "microsalutation" "microencouragement" "microvalidation". Yikes. Gives me the Micro Heebee Jeebees.

Wait till the intelligent nanotech comes for us. Once we experience nanoaggressions, we will regard microaggressions with loving nostalgia.

Vic Perry, Thursday, 26 March 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

come on, mordy

horseshoe, Thursday, 26 March 2015 23:47 (nine years ago) link

when it's said to people of color, it means "account for your existence." i don't need anything done to people who are dumb in that way, but i'm going to call them dumb.

horseshoe, Thursday, 26 March 2015 23:48 (nine years ago) link

like the lady who told me that i speak "really well english" when she had come to the end of a bewildering barrage of such questions that one time in college. she was dumb.

horseshoe, Thursday, 26 March 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link

idk obv in a country where birtherism is a thing it would be a mistake to underestimate ppl so I can't account for every incident but in my world of Jewish ppl it is a question that is asked in some form a lot and it always means what is Do not come out of your room again

Mordy, Friday, 27 March 2015 00:05 (nine years ago) link

Lol omg that is hilarious my phone took my talking to my daughter as dictation and posted that's good enough reason for me to say good night lol

Mordy, Friday, 27 March 2015 00:06 (nine years ago) link

haha aw

horseshoe, Friday, 27 March 2015 00:08 (nine years ago) link

I always assumed the question was a means for dummies to determine from which national drawer to pull out their cheesy stereotypical lines

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, 27 March 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link

lol Mordy.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 27 March 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link

I always assumed the question was a means for dummies to determine from which national drawer to pull out their cheesy stereotypical lines

― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, March 27, 2015 12:10 AM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Hey there. Where are you from? Cool, Asheville? Awesome, wanna fuck?"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 27 March 2015 00:11 (nine years ago) link

more like "Do you know how make sushi? I love to eat raw fish."

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, 27 March 2015 00:16 (nine years ago) link

"microaggressions" always makes me think of micro machines and I just imagine someone being racist really fast.

how's life, Friday, 27 March 2015 00:23 (nine years ago) link

and it always means what is Do not come out of your room again

:)

drash, Friday, 27 March 2015 01:06 (nine years ago) link

I'm just saying it's a question that gets asked in earnest MISSY You Are in Timeout!!!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 27 March 2015 01:10 (nine years ago) link

#NoDads has never been more relevant

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 March 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link

I think the discourse around race on campus has become Okay, five more minutes, but then you are getting dressed no complaining

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 27 March 2015 04:22 (nine years ago) link

i have a friend who has been sharing horror stories w/ me from their education grad program and i wonder if these programs are the real problems - not squabbling undergrads but entire departments that have signed onto exclusive ideological projects

Mordy, Sunday, 29 March 2015 13:34 (nine years ago) link

Same as it ever was

, Sunday, 29 March 2015 13:35 (nine years ago) link

i know someone that attended that school and program--and from her reports it definitely seemed...intense. there were a LOT of little blowups on facebook groups, confrontations with faculty, etc. im sure this article will provoke quite a hubbub there. social work strikes me as a special case, however, since it's "activist" by its very nature and therefore a certain amount of ideological exclusion is inevitable and maybe necessary. this is ok so long as we aren't forced to accept that social workers have the final say on social reality.

ryan, Sunday, 29 March 2015 14:19 (nine years ago) link

like, there's plenty of ideological chaos in those programs, but if conservatism (broadly defined) were to be included i dont think the field could claim much coherence!

ryan, Sunday, 29 March 2015 14:20 (nine years ago) link

there are conservatives who spend all their time helping the less fortunate, and even some who think laissez fair economics promotes economic equality -- or at least has the power to raise the median living standard.

these people are deluded, and are clearly ignoring glaring contradictions in their own worldview but then again don't we all. i think they should still be allowed to become social workers. that is a field that calls for people to be kind and helpful on an individual basis, and political orientation doesn't tell you much about someone's capacity to be those things

primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link

lots of "social justice educators" i've known are great. but a few have been real assholes and i'm sure they cause emotional damage to their students just on the basis of their general vituperativeness. having good intentions in an abstract sense doesn't always translate to how you treat people in the real world. don't know about other fields, but i imagine a similar thing is at play in social work. screening for "conservatives" misses the point of what really matters.

primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link

i stood when the category “working class” was called out, naïvely not realizing that there were nonworking classes in America.

wait this person is in grad school?

creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link

^^^

Full disclosure I didn't know that either until age 23 or so, but I'm a dumb hick from the Calvinist backwater.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link

iirc, Hunter explicitly brands itself as a "social justice" oriented program, which would seem to bar conservative points of view from having much purchase there.

ryan, Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link


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