"Don't I Deserve to be Privileged?" - A Thread for Jazmine Sullivan

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"#hoodlove" uses her vocal break well, too.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link

furthermore,

BOYS HAVE TOYS TOOOOOOO
WE KNOW THEY DO
THEY CALL US STUPID GIRLS
THEY CALL US STUUUUUUUUUUUUPID GIRLS

horseshoe, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link

please stop

it's now stuck in my head

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link

which one are you, Alfred?
cause i know who i am
and you have to choose
to use your head or be a stupid girl

horseshoe, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link

i love the way many of the songs on the album twist and turn lyrically from where they begin. i'm still surprised when "silver lining" turns into a song about sticking people up.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:21 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"mascara" sounds like this to me, too; like it meanders, but purposefully

horseshoe, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link

BOYS HAVE TOYS TOOOOOOO
WE KNOW THEY DO
THEY CALL US STUPID GIRLS
THEY CALL US STUUUUUUUUUUUUPID GIRLS

― horseshoe, Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:23 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^otm

rob, Monday, 30 March 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

x-post- Reality Show really is a fantastic album but Fearless is still my favourite. I know I'm in the minority here but I thought Love Me Back was slightly disappointing. Nothing on there I love as much as Lions, Tigers & Bears, Dream Big or In Love With Another Man.

― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, March 25, 2015

With ya on Fearless

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 April 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link

can someone explain to me how "stupid girls" is not a huge hit already ?

ANU (sisilafami), Thursday, 2 April 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link

Programmers and A&R men are stupid.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link

xp feel the same way about stanley/brand new/mascara/#hoodlove and maybe veins and masterpiece too; album is all muscle

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 April 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link

and forever don't last of course; so strong
saw her do that live with an unplugged guitar, she demolished it.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 April 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

"brand new" is the next single i think; like "mascara" it's masterful songwriting and performance but its genius is subtle enough that it doesn't scream SMASH to me

"stupid girls" and "stanley" feel very wasted though - the former might get too many winehouse comparisons (it's not at all hampered by the similarity tho imo) but the latter feels like a song that could really get her over that hump (though i guess "don't make me wait" was a similar song from the last album)

lex pretend, Friday, 3 April 2015 06:27 (nine years ago) link

i think "let it burn" might actually be the next single, as it is rising on the adult r&b (airplay) chart on billboard right now

dyl, Friday, 3 April 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

"brand new" is my fave right now; it destroys me

horseshoe, Saturday, 4 April 2015 12:44 (nine years ago) link

this ain't fair
who was there?
who was lovin you?

horseshoe, Saturday, 4 April 2015 12:44 (nine years ago) link

Just show me some appreciation
Or maybe take a bitch to dinner!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 April 2015 12:51 (nine years ago) link

"brand new" is my fave right now; it destroys me

― horseshoe, Saturday, April 4, 2015 12:44 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

goddamn i'm so embarrassed kills me

lex pretend, Saturday, 4 April 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link

"Brand New" is a good choice. Maybe it can catch some Empire tail, as the storyline nearly matches up with Cookie's.

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Saturday, 4 April 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link

FINALLY listening to the new album

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 April 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

She's playing next Tuesday but I've got a 6 a.m. flight the next day. ARGH.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 April 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link

i happen to be working a show that she's in later this year and am currently working on a bowl for her with the words "DON'T I DESERVE TO GET THE VERY BEST?" etched into it.

Would have made a better thread title

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 6 April 2015 22:49 (nine years ago) link

l'esprit deej l'escalier

it definitely leaves a stronger first impression than the first two albums did

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 April 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link

The last half of this record is so much fun!!!

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 April 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link

The last track is really great

, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

is there aaaaaaany in-depth writing on this album at all

"mascara" and "brand new" are worthy of longform essays EACH

lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link

hey man I wanted 800 words

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link

there's always dev hynes's review lol

dyl, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link

the show last night was so good and i wish i had double the space for it

maura, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link

she's so fucking solid live

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link

is there aaaaaaany in-depth writing on this album at all

"mascara" and "brand new" are worthy of longform essays EACH

― lex pretend, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 4:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, I actually wrote a longform essay on Mascara back in January. It's in Norwegian though so good luck trying to read it.

http://www.dagbladet.no/2015/01/26/kultur/vers/musikk/37333714/

longneck, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link

ha i had no idea you were norwegian. i might resort to google translate at some point

lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link

google translate makes my head hurt so no need. i only wanted to point out that SOMEONE had indeed written just that.

longneck, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:43 (nine years ago) link

don't suppose you'd like to give a go at translating to english here?

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

Translating it all from scratch would take too long but if I can find the time I'll try to put some makeup on the google translate version.

longneck, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link

don't we deserve to be priviligert?

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 April 2015 01:51 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i heard "brand new" on the radio yesterday :D there was a recording of her introducing it as the new single too

dyl, Friday, 15 May 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link

best song of the decade.

ANU (sisilafami), Friday, 15 May 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link

Literally every word and inflection is fucking perfect on this album, every detail blows me away

lex pretend, Friday, 15 May 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

She is opening for Sam Smith at an outdoor Arena/theatre near DC tonight but sadly several media announcements for the show do not even mention her.

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 July 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

where's the video for brand new ?

ANU (sisilafami), Friday, 24 July 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

She's currently pushing "Let It Burn".

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 24 July 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

I still want to keep growing as a songwriter for as long as I can. This isn't it for me. It doesn't feel like I've arrived just yet.

i love her

dyl, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:07 (eight years ago) link

i feel like the second verse of "brand new" is even better than anything kendrick would have contributed, but i also want to hear this putative remix!

cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link

i also have no idea whether he'd go apologetic or battle-of-sexes confrontational, but either way, jazmine's original tells the woman's story fully, and the male response should def be a part 2 rather than built into that

cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link

i too would love hearing kendrick on a remix, but sadly i think she has been quietly pushed from mainstream r&b radio to adult r&b radio over the course of this album cycle, where i think such a thing wouldn't take. obv we have discussed the difficulties black women in r&b (and in general) face in the mainstream lately so it seems like the older audience who wants to hear "let it burn" (as they should -- great song!) is where the industry will keep her slotted for some time :\

i remember hearing "brand new" on the mainstream r&b/hip-hop station here a couple times, complete with a recording of jazmine introducing it, but sadly they stopped playing it before long and now the only place i hear her is on the adult station that has "let it burn" in strong rotation

dyl, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link

I was definitely expecting a bit more from this. The Other Side is absolutely gorgeous but it's the only song here that's on the same level as Pick Up Your Feelings.

kitchen person, Sunday, 10 January 2021 04:26 (three years ago) link

as a "part one" with more to come, i'm totally satisfied.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 January 2021 05:58 (three years ago) link

perfectly good EP/project

as#d,.F:ddz;,c#,;;,;,;,sdf' (Left), Sunday, 10 January 2021 12:38 (three years ago) link

I hope the follow-up is called Meaux Tales

boxedjoy, Monday, 11 January 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link

heaux tales, beau tales, Holiday Inn!

https://www.vulture.com/article/profile-jazmine-sullivan-heaux-tales.html

And she’s been writing Heaux Tales, her first concept album.

i mean... this is wrong? but otherwise not a bad piece. Interesting to find out her mother is a playwright.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link

This is a good piece of work I likely will never listen to again

Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

this is a great record, no idea why someone wouldn't wanna listen to it again lmao

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link

agreed; it rules

horseshoe, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:39 (three years ago) link

It's sound, solid.

two weeks pass...

in other unlikely headline news:
https://www.vulture.com/2021/01/jazmine-sullivan-eric-church-national-anthem-super-bowl.html🕸

reminder

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 5 February 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

who's eric church some country dude

I don't think even jazmine can save the Worst Song Ever

Left, Friday, 5 February 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

like jazmine, eric church is an alum of the ilm 77

he is a good artist despite the occasional self-consciousness of his rock rebel shtick

dyl, Saturday, 6 February 2021 04:10 (three years ago) link

i finally (!) listened to heaux tales and it's honestly really good, confused by the not-even-lukewarm response here

dyl, Sunday, 7 February 2021 06:24 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/feb/03/jazmine-sullivan-heaux-tales-ep-r-and-b-great-observer

the lex interviewing her. I can only imagine how happy he was to do this!

boxedjoy, Sunday, 7 February 2021 08:13 (three years ago) link

great piece

dyl, Monday, 8 February 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link

Yep, especially for regarding songwriting as something more than autobiographical plumbing

four months pass...

new single "Tragic" comes out tomorrow!

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 10:00 (two years ago) link

aw yeah

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 June 2021 14:07 (two years ago) link

love it, hopefully a full-length album is on the way

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 25 June 2021 23:42 (two years ago) link

I like this one.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 26 June 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

Sounds like a flip of xscape who can I run to

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 26 June 2021 06:17 (two years ago) link

Or Jones girls I guess originally

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 26 June 2021 06:44 (two years ago) link

last night at the BET Awards she did a performance of "On It" with Ari Lennox and while it wasn't as great as her Soul Train Awards performance it was still excellent to see them singing about women's sexual pleasure on their terms. I know we've had twenty years of Lil Kim and so on, so explicit and raunchy isn't a big deal, but I think to see stuff performed with no "gimmicks" etc is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dr8LmhjiYU

boxedjoy, Monday, 28 June 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link


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